Robbed by friend. WTF - Page 6

ggplz

nobody goes from "crushing" 3/6 to getting pounded at 5/10.

he probably was either heatering 3/6 and/or lying if you didnt actually know his results. regardless of the kidnapping incident it was pretty apparent to me that his "sick style" was pretty bad, and he was damn close to a breakeven player at best. given his forum attitude herein it's obvious his ego is massive and his grip on reality is fleeting.

your posting about info in his life that LP "doesn't need to know" and medications he is on sounds like an attempt to make phantom excuses for his behaviour. if someone needs medication in order to not spew at poker / behave reasonably then these are actual character issues, and medication has nothing to do with the fact that his behaviour is appalling..

ahh forget it. just because you're buddies with a scummer and a scummer can act nice does not change the facts. a T-Rex wearing a human mask is still a T-Rex.

On May 19 2009 15:14 nolan wrote: ggplz nobody goes from "crushing" 3/6 to getting pounded at 5/10. he probably was either heatering 3/6 and/or lying if you didnt actually know his results. regardless of the kidnapping incident it was pretty apparent to me that his "sick style" was pretty bad, and he was damn close to a breakeven player at best. given his forum attitude herein it's obvious his ego is massive and his grip on reality is fleeting.

Well, i know you two hated each other. Doesnt sound like u have any idea about his results though based on what you wrote and just base that on how you percieved him. He was completely open about his results and showed me graphs + let me sweat him all the time (we had our computers next to each other) while he explained what he was doing/thinking. I dont have AIM installed (or know my screenname anymore tbh) otherwise i'd log in and msg u and u can probably figure out why. If u have MSN hook me up.

On May 19 2009 15:14 nolan wrote: your posting about info in his life that LP "doesn't need to know" and medications he is on sounds like an attempt to make phantom excuses for his behaviour. if someone needs medication in order to not spew at poker / behave reasonably then these are actual character issues, and medication has nothing to do with the fact that his behaviour is appalling.. ahh forget it. just because you're buddies with a scummer and a scummer can act nice does not change the facts. a T-Rex wearing a human mask is still a T-Rex.

At least you partially got that. Again, i didnt ask him for details regarding the medication - i'm just explaining that without medication he couldnt focus and got angry/frustrated and generally emotional really easily. It seemed like it was very strong shit.

I havent talked with him for a few months now because he also cut contact with me. He isnt just a random internet name that scammed someone to me though.

dude sounds bipolar

sOah has always been a really nice guy. since the whole kidnapping thing he's been on anti-depressant meds and hasn't been himself. he did have some emotional problems prior to that and mixing with those meds the damage it can do to you is tremendous. they could have played a big part in what happened with Ket. i'm really, really worried about his health right now, because the sOah i know would feel sick to his stomach if he were to steal a friend's money. at the same time, unless he was in a life threatening situation there is no excuse for ignoring ket for so long now. it's terrible that ket is missing 20k, but my biggest concern is what's going on with sOah here. i really hope we get to the bottom of this and ket gets his money back.

sorry to hear about this Ket

gl getting your 20k back

so sorry to hear that dude hope you get your money back ....
but TO ME a guy who is supposedly making 50-100k a month asking for a loan of 20k and worrying about some small exchange rates and taking that as a excuse to not deposit himself i mean COME ON, i dont know you much but i assume you play highstakes and read souls sometimes , this looked really weird from the start!

Where can I read about the kidnapping? I have a hard time believing that, if a danish guy got kidnapped it would be all over the news here but I dont remember reading anything about a danish guy who got kidnapped

http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/464979/Soah_s_case.html

that's really tough, losing the 20k is definitely a bitch but realising someone you valued as a friend is willing to screw you over is worse

best of luck getting an explanation and your money back

this will fix your spirits

On May 19 2009 13:49 looserSR wrote: whatever, he didnt repay it on time and doesnt answers = hes big time scumbag, no excuses(only excuse if hes fcukin dead), no exceptions !! and WTF r u talkin about lawyers ?? do u have signed contract on paper ? no ? then we got no case.

I'm in a hurry now, so can't look up Danish law, but I'm pretty sure this isn't correct.

On May 20 2009 02:59 DustySwedeDude wrote: Show nested quote + On May 19 2009 13:49 looserSR wrote: whatever, he didnt repay it on time and doesnt answers = hes big time scumbag, no excuses(only excuse if hes fcukin dead), no exceptions !! and WTF r u talkin about lawyers ?? do u have signed contract on paper ? no ? then we got no case. I'm in a hurry now, so can't look up Danish law, but I'm pretty sure this isn't correct.

I go with Dusty's opinon...written papper should'nt be necessary but nevertheless it would make the case a whole lot easier since the effect of that papers working as evidence would be very strong. But msn-conversations (stating amounts and conditions for the term loan) in conjunction with a copy of the actual banktransfer would probably pretty much do it. However I wonder how a court would consider the purpose of the loan. A debt due to gambling is at least in Sweden considered as an "Pactum Turpe" which means that the debt is not "valid" or at least not possible to enforce in a court of law. I'm not at this time sure if the purpose (gambling) can affect the loan in a sense that it would be considered as a pactum turpe also. Also that could differ in Denmark if that's were the defendant comes from. However there might be another way to go and that's by raising penal process instead of a civil one and allege for damages due to his fraudulent behavior....Just some thoughts...

If he sues, and he wins he still doesn't get the money if soah cant pay. But putting the police on the case might be bad for soah and his family, so maybe that would change his mind.

The "kidnapping" is 99.9% pure bullshit, everything in that story stinks, it was never mentioned any where in the danish media and even a polish guy wouldn't kidnap someone for a lousy 20K. I guess it was all part of his scam.

Admin lookup the IP of Alchemik, the "polish" guy who confirms some of the story with his two post and never posted again

Awww when I Went to the WSOP last year I came with a cheque that completely was useless in the USA (even though my bank HSBC told me it'd be fine as a cashiers cheque it wasn't it was basically a bankers draft that i'd have to open an account and take a week to clear),

Got to Ket on MSN bam 20k cash within 24 hours - and I felt absolutely terrible that when I got back to the UK it took me about 8 days (I believe) to wire it back to Ket, (which infact I still feel bad about because there was literally no excuse or reason just forgot/lazy).

Anyway I just wanted to say really lame, really really lame. I don't know that you'll get it back because his reputation is ruined now whether he pays it back or not. I can't believe someone would do this though.

As people are saying there is no excuse for this behaviour and by no excuse I mean no excuse. (Apart from perhaps death - perhaps I personally would have someone know who I owed money to so it could be paid off or at least I think my girlfriend would know if I owed anyone and pay back), you do not borrow money without the means to pay it back on the date without letting the party know. So what I'm saying is there is no excuse not to pay back the money so please anyone thats making excuses for him or trying to give reasons there isn't any.

On May 20 2009 04:14 Zorglub wrote: If he sues, and he wins he still doesn't get the money if soah cant pay. But putting the police on the case might be bad for soah and his family, so maybe that would change his mind. The "kidnapping" is 99.9% pure bullshit, everything in that story stinks, it was never mentioned any where in the danish media and even a polish guy wouldn't kidnap someone for a lousy 20K. I guess it was all part of his scam. Admin lookup the IP of Alchemik, the "polish" guy who confirms some of the story with his two post and never posted again

Alchemik is a regular poster on tlpoker.pl, if someone doesnt have a lot of posts here doesnt mean he doesnt have credibility. I got like 600? posts here, but around 6,000 on .pl.

Sigh.... bad luck mate, hope you get the 20k back

I never liked him after he said I should be banned for posting advice in the midstake forums, he always seemed up himself.

And I concur with Nolan that you certainly never going from crushing 3/6 to getting pounded on 5/10.

On May 18 2009 18:58 milkman wrote: bad beat, im american so obv im terrible at geography and 2 lazy to look at a map, but if u can drive a car from your house to his, u should drive over there and run him over.

Besides the fact that the United Kingdom is an island(?) he would have to drive to through that long tunnel to France, then through Germany and then Denmark, crossing some bridges and then actually try and find him.
I think it would be the easiest to try and get his father to act. Either make Simon pay or pay himself. I'm pretty sure his dad is rich from what he told me he worked high up in a bank. Not much evidence here, but I was invited to his fathers weekly pokergame and it was well above my stakes.(not saying much..)

GL Ket and I hope Simon pays back. Cannot believe it myself. I actually hope that he's been kidnapped or something and just havent been able.

omg
its amazing how we cant trust anyone anymore
-.-
gl with that
hope you get it back

On May 20 2009 04:14 Zorglub wrote: The "kidnapping" is 99.9% pure bullshit, everything in that story stinks, it was never mentioned any where in the danish media and even a polish guy wouldn't kidnap someone for a lousy 20K. I guess it was all part of his scam. Admin lookup the IP of Alchemik, the "polish" guy who confirms some of the story with his two post and never posted again

jesus christ how many times do i have to say that it was even mentioned in the police report on official website of polish police along with the picture of the kidnapper in the handcuffs. and asked a few players from poland and apparently the kidnapper went to prison for this but was recently released

On May 19 2009 17:05 Loco wrote: sOah has always been a really nice guy. since the whole kidnapping thing he's been on anti-depressant meds and hasn't been himself. he did have some emotional problems prior to that and mixing with those meds the damage it can do to you is tremendous. they could have played a big part in what happened with Ket. i'm really, really worried about his health right now, because the sOah i know would feel sick to his stomach if he were to steal a friend's money. at the same time, unless he was in a life threatening situation there is no excuse for ignoring ket for so long now. it's terrible that ket is missing 20k, but my biggest concern is what's going on with sOah here. i really hope we get to the bottom of this and ket gets his money back.

maybe you should be more reserved about character judgments in the future.

really, why does everyone want to defend this guy?