Dear CrownRoyal

Exciting stuff.

Pretty safe bet I'd say.

LOL

HU grudge match let it happen and oh, wait till i can put some $ on this. My vote goes for Neilly cuz it would be a huge loss to LP (nothing against you CR).

OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN!!!!!!!

sadly its too long to be my signature but this quote is GOLD:

"Whats the most sad part about it all is that you think you're a good player, way more delusional than I ever was. I mean shit, I know that I'm a competent winner and I have dozens of people who watch me play and tell me up and down that I'm one of the best players they've ever seen"

Both

I like how elaborate you are, except how long did it take you to type this?

grudge HU for rolls is the only way to determine who should stay

dont know CrownRoyal well enough. Plus, I hate judging pple w/o having direct interaction with them.

didn't vote since there was no "neither" option

what sparked this?

HU4LP accounts?

On January 21 2009 18:30 k2o4 wrote: didn't vote since there was no "neither" option

HU4LOLZ?

so, heads up 4 rolls neilly?

HU4ROLLZ + LP Accounts here imo... if you ask me, this doesn't mean Neilly isn't sticking to his BRM program, he needs to defends his honor !!! Btw, I had to vote Neilly here although I don't really have anything against CrownRoyal...

Edit: To keep Neilly here that is.

I typed this in the LOLDOG for FrinkX thread in less than 10 minutes, this was all from my heart and I did not pre-determine anything that I wrote here. I got on the comp at like 7:00 est, saw some more random shit hes posted in the loldog thread and i said fuck it, im gonna tell this little queer what i think of him.

I'm just flat out sick and TIRED of this guy, I'm by NO means asking for him to be banned, although IT would make my life so much better and I see LP as a WAY better place without his negativity.

Ket, I realize I'm not on your level, but to most of my students and to those whom I allow to teamviewer me / skype w/ me, they always tell me I'm an amazing player

SG-Hattan who teamviewers and skypes with myself and with SG-Rain (RainKhan) also told me that I think on the same level as khan, and the only difference between us has been money management which I have fixed! (not in the PROCESS of fixing, THIS has been FIXED)

Now, I'm not saying I'm a NL5k reg cuz that would be a flat out lie, but I am competent to win, I'm spotting all my leaks with the help of some LP members (can name them if you want, find it useless though)

HU for rolls would be fun, but unlike you, I'm treating poker as my job now, a business, not something to PROVE to the world that I can beat a mediocre player.

Why would I risk variance running me over when I know I'm a better player than you?

My BR is on my blog daily dude, its $500, Do you really expect me to risk what I've worked the last week for on some silly little grudgematch YOU WANT?

I don't even touch HU cashgames anymore anyways, your SOL buddy.


If you want a HU battle with me so badly, then this is the ONLY way it will ever happen, MY TERMS.

When I have a $2,000 roll, I will a lot $1,000 for a HU match against you.
You need to have $2,000 for the game.

We don't stop until one of us loses the investment.

6 Tables HU - Max buy-in with auto-reload on at all times.

My $1,000 vs your $2,000 (and you have to ship me $500 on top after I beat you out of these sick odds as well, since you having 40 bi should ALMOST DEFINITALEY CRUSH ME WITH 20BI ITLR if you are SO MUCH better than me, RIGHT?

You CAN NOT QUIT UNTIL YOU HAVE LOST THE FULL $2,000.
If these circumstances are fullfilled, then I will play you on a day starting at 5:00 PM EST when I am bankrolled for the game.

If the session lasts over 12 hours, we will continue the next day at 5PM EST.

We will continue to do this every single day until one person loses the initial investment.

So, you want your game vs me so badly, you can wait, the stipulations must be followed as you've been begging me for this asswhooping for months.

My terms are non negotiable, I see no reason to play your candy ass, and if I'm going to waste my time on it, I'm going to fucking demolish you and take $2,500 of your money while you sit and cry like the little bitch you are.

Ah come one fuck this HU for rollz shit

I wann see u fight nhb the old ValeTudo way while some gay powermetal band plays in the background
No time limit , No rules ( soccer kicks to opponents face on the ground = valid) no gay stuff except the power metal music in the background

lets get it on


I really think this is teh best way

on a not so serious note :

Neilly is a deillusional ill degen
But he is entertaining
I somehow think he has real problems ... but i still like him ^^

GOGO Neilly NL5K !


Crownroyal is one of the guys here that was allready well known poster when i started poker and joined LP i think.
However i dont even know anything about him at all.
I am not sure if he even beats Nl100 online in the 2-3 years he plays poker.
I dont hate him.
In fact i have no real opinion about him
Still think he is the only guy that plays poker for so long who never even posted about winning at Nl100 in his blog.
ALl i see is some Nl50 and some Nl25 + some lowstakes SNGs and FPP toruneys

i used to stand up for you more than anyone neilly but its not fun to look stupid anymore and i just look at the things you do for entertainment now. You make plans all the time and as soon as you dont have a winning day or you run a little bad you tilt off everything (not saying i dont do this either)

I came to the conclusion that poker is a drain to my life so im not depositing ever again, If i want to make it i will and I'm struggling already i worked hard to make a decent roll and lost 3/4 of it today but i stopped myself before busto and if I want to keep playing I'll have to earn it again. I really do have a great job and im sorry that it makes me happy for once in my life to be on track to accomplish the things that i want to accomplish and I'm delusional about my own life goals but hey I'm on pace to accomplish all of them so far.

I dunno wtf sparked all of this I just thought we had a friendly grudge and I'll just tell you im sorry cause it's pretty apparent i hurt your feelings somewhere I have no idea what your deal is.

I'm seriously just trolling you 3/4 of the time to get a rise and wow what a sweet one i finally got

it was totally worth it

lol ryan i gotta be honest, i'm not a grammar nazi

but if you're gonna create a blog post calling somebody a retard, its pretty important to make sure your FIRST sentence "your a retard" is correctly written as "you're a retard"

"Oman" it was, 60 weeks of constant flames are enough to piss someone off.


Day , what are u talking about?

money management which I have fixed! (not in the PROCESS of fixing, THIS has been FIXED)

I can't decide whether it's better to have a mindset where you convince yourself it's fixed, or to have one where you constantly remind yourself that you must be disciplined and committed.

Personally I think I favor the latter, but I'm not certain.

Last edit: 21/01/2009 18:52

seriously though, who cares about money?

it's all about the fame, when you die your money doesn't go with you but your name can live on

you look at it all the wrong way

think in layman's terms, he said your grammar sucks
oh and I dont think in your proposed deal that he should ship you $500 on top if you win is fair. It's like you're taking half a buyin shot to a headsup4rollz grudge match, so when you lose you dont exactly lose your roll, but if you win, you expect extra money on top? thats not right..

BREAK IT UP GENTS

fwiw neilly i voted to ban me

true gentleman here

always fun to read LP

seriously though neilly i have a proposition

I dunno what type of money you have laying around and most of the guys here apparently think you're nl5k material and on "khans" level so maybe they'll stake you for a bet

lets make a bet starting with $50(nl2 or hell i guess maybe nl50hu for you) who can make it to nl100 ($2000) first.

or wtfever i'll start at whatever stake you want actually

i need inspiration to grind and this is good for both of us

INTERESTED?

if you go busto you can't redeposit either, the bet is over and at the end of the bet we have to validate that neither of us have had money xferred to or from our accounts and that we haven't made any deposits.

A. CrownRoyal - I care about the money, POKER is about MONEY, its not about fame, if you wanna be famous, go shoot a president or rob the biggest bank in the world. I played for fame for a fuckin year, see where it gets you? NO WHERE IN THIS BUSINESS til you reach the plateau of a Phil Ivey or something.
Its You who wants to be famous because I beat tons of great sc players back in my hayday in SC, and YOU WANT TO PROVE to the world that you can beat me, when in fact a ton of players can beat me. (omg u did beat me once though, back in 2007, less than 1 month after I started playing HU, *i didn't understand SHIT about HU back then*)

B. gawdawful - I don't even want to play him, hes the one who keeps insisting this HU match, So if he wants it THAT bad, AND THINKS He can beat me THAT badly, then he will have to pay THIS price for a shot at it, because honestly, I don't want to play vs any competent thinking players when theres 180,000 fish waiting to give me money all day

Boils down to this, why play HU vs someone thats decent when u can play vs someone that sucks?
If you play vs the decent player, there better be some great extenuating circumstances in your favor.

If you guys have read any of my recent blogs you would realize that I said I quit HU cash "UNLESS the circumstances are perfect"

I'm finished posting in this thread, crown will sit there and flame all day, hes such a troll, its all he ever does, hes probably jerkin off right now waitin for my response.

lol, im gonna go play Wii.

:edit:
why the fuck would i help motivate a troll thats been flaming me forever?
Why are u asking for these HU matches when u don't have a sufficent roll to play micros?
Why do you insist that you are some good HU player, is it because I once complimented you when I was new to the game?

meh, idk or care, you ask for all this HU for rollz shit then u don't even have a roll lol.....not like I'm gonna put my deposit on the line in a game thats extremely high variance when I have a guide and bankroll management to follow either, just the point that you're being pretty ego-driven and idiotic as usual.

lol how the fuck would beating a scrub like you make me famous

The bigger question is; how the hell does someone manage to get almost 8k posts on LP without getting at least semi-decent at poker?

i can post graphs and stuff where i win at 5-10ptbb/100 at any limit ive ever played or you can sharkscope me

well actually i cant back that up cause i dont have all of my hhs anymore but you can look in my old blog posts and see them id assume.

i havent really seriously played poker beyond grinding for a day/use that money won to play in a big tournament and lose in over a year because im not motivated to and one losing day tilts me but i used to play poker as my income from the ages of 16-18 and paid for my truck + insurance + beer so i never really gave myself a chance to build a bankroll a lot like milkman

theres from the last time i ever played poker seriously as my job results from 1 month of playing or something, i quit playing poker right after that i can't really remember why but i cashed out all of that but 50 bucks or something

On January 21 2009 18:55 CrownRoyal wrote: seriously though, who cares about money? it's all about the fame, when you die your money doesn't go with you but your name can live on you look at it all the wrong way

errrr, with the money you earn you can give your kids a brighter future (sucks how that's the way it works doesn't it?) or do a lot of good with it if you choose to.

Comparatively speaking, you have to be 100x more famous than equal level of "wealth" to make that kind of impact (ie being a spokesperson and gathering funds etc)

edit: and the good you do with your money can live on foreer after your death as well.

i dunno why you guys all berate me for being a regular for 3 years and not being a nl5k champ

i play recreationally for now,

i cant remember the last time i was anything other than bronze star on stars.

just like we don't know why a "recreational" player berates tons of players on this board who are here to learn and become professional players.

We are not here for recreation, sure we may have a fun NL2 PLO session from time to time or w/e, but it comes down to money, and we are all here to take what we can and give nothing back.

And your graph is just about as embarassing as my PT3, why would you post that in "defense" of your good play, i posted mine to show how bad i sucked, jesus man, wtf is wrong with you

You said u just wanted to get me fired up, then a couple ppl say stuff to you and you bitch about being berated as well, lol, hows it feel buddy? You coulda done without those comments, right? Are u realizing this is a community and we are here to help each other, and u should do the same, and if u don't have anything of value to say then just keep your fucking mouth shut. (ie. advice / something funny / something in the world / SOMETHING OF VALUE)

EVERYONE TO THERE FEET!
CROWNROYAL, YOU ARE THE ONLY RECREATIONAL PLAYER ON LP, YOU ARE FAMOUS!
YOU, AND ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT FOREST FIRES!

first of all the whole learning @ lp atmosphere is a rough one and usually people are berated to learn in general so i dunno how you can say im the only one who does it and 2ndly it doesn't matter what type of player i am i can still analyze and determine in my opinion what is right and what is wrong and im pretty sure im usually right or i wouldn't be saying it.

i'd never give anyone advice i thought was wrong.

neilly you do realize those winrates are pretty good, right?

do you even understand wtf those mean?

my HU pt stats are the only ones im not really proud of, that isn't a very good nl50 hu ptbb winrate but the rake is a rapist at that limit hu so it isnt too terrible

you saying those pt stats are bad is like someone saying scoring a 30 on their ACT is pretty bad

sure they could be better but there aren't many people winning @ rates higher than that, they are a pretty elite group and i dont think they would be playing those stakes to begin with.

In before Michael Jackson gi... oh wait

4000th post.

OMG 8bb/100 over 60,000 hands on microstakes! The next Bobby Fischer of Poker imo!

HOLY SHIT, THATS FAME BOYS N GIRLS, THATS WHY HE PLAYS RECREATIONALLY, BECAUSE HE HAD A MONTH WHERE HE PULLED 8BB/100, SO OBVIOUSLY HE DOESN'T HAVE TO PLAY ANYMORE SINCE HE HAD A WINNING MONTH....DUH, NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE!
:edit: - It doesn't even say his name on that chart, he coulda pulled that from any 2p2'rs page.

So crown, if I take a $7,000 month from last year and post a graph about it, does that mean im the best and should just let everyone else take the fishes money because I had a winning month?

The answer is no you idiot, the point of poker is you need to bring your A game every single day, its not like baseball where u swing 3x and catch a few balls, this is a game you need to BRING IT 365 days a year.

Now, all this shit about you being a "recreational player", is that just another term for a losing player, or a player that just trolls forums and doesn't play?

Does your brain function correctly?

Boy, must be nice to have a dream job that pays you $10M a year, especially since you dropped out of college and failed at poker!

God your a joke, you piss me off so bad, u fuckin suck at life, then u fail at poker, and u just keep getting gifts thrown into your lap

(OK HERES A DREAM JOB DON'T FUCK IT UP)

Obviously you're gonna fuck that up too, its just a matter of time, then whats god gonna throw in your lap? Next will probably be some super rich bitch thats 20x out of your league, but shes a little fuckin crazy and falls for one of your ridiculous poems, then your gonna run good with her for one month and be like "IM ONLY RECREATIONAL, I'M OUT BITCH"

:: 6 months passes ::

Me : Yo guys lets go to NYC for July 4th
Friends : Sure lets hit it

7:00 : we meet up with nutshot2
7:30 : we see crown on the side of the street with a sign "will teach NL2 for food"
8:00 : finish shopping at wal-mart
8:30 : egg crownroyal and steal his cardboard box
9:00 : drop of cleareyes down my face - return his HOME! (box)
9:10 : urinate profusely onto and all around the box.
9:15 : Take back his "home"
9:30 : Throw it in the nearest dumpster to him and take photo as he reaches in on his tippytoes to get it, only to get covered in piss.
9:45 : Pay someone $10 to walk up to him and tell him they will give him $100/hr for NL2 lessons
9:45 - 9:48 : laugh histarically as you see his eyes light up then the guy says, btw, what the fuck is NL2?

lol happy 4000th
I think I agree with Neilly for the first time ever.

cat fight

I can't tell if neily is trolling or not

Because crown is such a sweetheart

lol god this is awesome wtf.

what is driving you sir to write 2 page essays about how much you hate crown?

man this must be reallllll personal ;D

the douchebaggery was mutual

How dare you insult the game of baseball, I'm offended.

we don't have walmarts here in NYC

On January 21 2009 19:52 CrownRoyal wrote: theres from the last time i ever played poker seriously as my job results from 1 month of playing or something, i quit playing poker right after that i can't really remember why but i cashed out all of that but 50 bucks or something

lemme guess

u cashed out after u dumped 9 buy ins on .5/1

oh and neilly, you're not an amazing player, you're not even close to that, you're decent at best

quit thinking otherwise and just grind ur way up, and u shudnt have any students lol

That was the most mannerful I've ever seen you fayth, u get laid tonight or something? :-)

Yeah, wasted 4001th post on that!

fayth, before you judge, why don't you observe me play with teamviewer for 30 - 45 minutes then make a judgement, dealio?

I don't really wish to waste that kind of time

best of luck tho

hm, i'd imagine recreational players have a place on this site, though i cant describe in particular the what/when/where/why of their posting.

The forum being exclusive to uber serious players seems a bit odd to me, since this is as much a 'community forum' as it is a 'strategy forum'

idk, just rambling.

indeed they are for anyone, but some people are just trolling so hard =/

tbh neilly I'm kinda offended

I play recreationally because I love the game and I know I'm not good enough discipline wise to ever succeed full time

On January 21 2009 18:02 NeillyJQ wrote: your a good player but u have no fucking direction and you just sit around trying to poke at people because your a fucking loser inside and it makes u feel better, Whats the most sad part about it all is that you think you're a good player,

does not compute

everyone looks bad in this thread

dbl post

I maintain that I was a civilized and rational creature in this thread!

On January 22 2009 00:46 Luna_Bluffgood wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2009 18:02 NeillyJQ wrote: your a good player but u have no fucking direction and you just sit around trying to poke at people because your a fucking loser inside and it makes u feel better, Whats the most sad part about it all is that you think you're a good player, does not compute

like i said, i wrote this in ten minutes, read through all my posts before you make preconcieved notions of a typo that I wrote up very quick.

my point is he isn't a bad player, and a good player with no direction isn't a good player since he will go no where, he will just hve some wasted talent (that was me in the past), although hes not good either, and to be trying to play HU for rollz against me when both of us are shortrolled and after I said Im not depositing again (and a day later he wrote in his blog hes doing the same)

i respect his game, i don't think hes terrible, but i don't think he can win itlr, which is what i meant by calling him a good player beginning, but telling him at the end that hes not a top player like he thinks he is

stop taking everything so seriously (or is it serious)

i know what you ment, because i read through all of it

ill leave crownroyal out of this, but neilly you are THE MOST DELUSIONAL individual i know on this site.

let me ask you one question, how many times have you said "ok guys enough of this degenerate shit, im gonna follow bankroll management, and reach x/x stakes", and then gone and donated at a stake out of your bankroll limits.

Its happened a ton of times, all of which happened while I was partying EVERYYYY NIGHT, a time where i was doing more blow and extacy than most the community combined, and a time where I had no discipline.

PokerMyFace, I WAS the most delusional, when I DIDN'T CARE about poker.

I can see that he "says" he doesn't care about poker, but tell me again, if u don't care so much, then why would you constantly flame everyone on a board for every play they make?

I don''t give a fuck if you nitpick 1 little sentence out of 500 sentences, hes a fucking fruitcake faggot self centered ego meniacle jerk-off who probably never got laid in his life and never will, this kids a fucking douchebag beyond douchebags, and his presense around us does nothing but bring negativity to the community.

G_G
Ryan.

On January 22 2009 18:49 NeillyJQ wrote: I don''t give a fuck if you nitpick 1 little sentence out of 500 sentences, hes a fucking fruitcake faggot self centered ego meniacle jerk-off who probably never got laid in his life and never will, this kids a fucking douchebag beyond douchebags, and his presense around us does nothing but bring negativity to the community. G_G Ryan.

you totally hung out in x17 and loved it, didn't you?

I get it that crown was being annoying. He does that. But you aren't looking any better than him right now.

i used x17...until like 1999 or 2000

then i joined vC and played on west til 2002, then i played west and gamei

trust me, im not one who flames ppl alot, this was building for a long time, and his degenness and negativity had started to get to me and he never backed off.

In my eyes i had no choice other than to let him know what I think of him and what the rest of the community thinks of his antics.

My blog is solely used for tracking my play, and it may have been out of line to do this, but a man can only be pushes so far without saying anything.

Imagine if i didn't make this blog, would I really want to continue to put up with his antics? His negativity and degeness was fucking w/ my mind some and tbh, we are a community to help each other, not bring others down because of jealousy (the only reason I can think of), or him trying to chase a HU match vs me which is really retarded since we are both on short rollz (i have around 700 and hes shorter than that)

idc though, move on, back to the grind and wish me luck boys n girls

GL to all of you,
Ryan

omg guys i love u both!!

bottomline:

both of u are entertaining. keep on going!