How the fuck did I manage + Video - Page 2

anyway ur prolly overplaying ur hands a lot and playing too many hands

Thanks for the comments.

Ya.. I am definitely losing or giving up too much, but I'm not sure where. I suppose I'm having difficulty deciphering their hand strength. Not sure what I can do to alleviate this? Maybe I will post some hands that I gave up on when I get home in like 6 hours and see what people think.

I will check my w$wsf when I get home as well.

I think the KJ on the 34J flop was an okay fold because I doubt he decides to raise with worse other than a draw, and 3betting probably isn't correct OOP with one pair unless he is realllllllllllllllly LAG and has A LOT of straight air there. You could also flatcall and hope for a safe non-draw turn but I think he needs to raise with a ton of draws for the and it still lets him play perfectly against you imo.

The AQo hand against the MR probably showed one reason why your red line is so low. Just because he MR doesn't mean you have to flatcall AQo OOP. Are you trying to flop a pair? Then what? You are going to felt an A/Qhi flop OOP against him? I think you lose a lot more than you win playing this way. Probably just raise or fold preflop OOP.

lmfao @ the e-flirt and then scrolling over her avatar to see where she is from XD.

Why don't you like to play SCs preflop? By 12:15 you folded I think 3 of them for like nothing.

I'm def cbetting the 57ss hand OTB, and if I check behind there is def a bet on the turn after he checks twice.

Seeing some of the hands you open folded OTB instead of stealing makes me think you might not be stealing enough, but I guess that's a style issue (I just saw you fold 47cc folded to OTB instead of stealing, and i'd probably make a stab with that and a lot more).

I tend not to cbet shortstacks when I completely whiff esp on low boards because they just don't like to fold. Then you have to end up double barreling if you want folds and it just gets expensive to bluff, and by then you pretty much have to call if they shove OTT anyway because it's so cheap, making the hand even more expensive. (see KJ on 9hi flop against the Florida girl who open shoved turn)

ok I stopped watching at about 30 minutes because I got board due to no audio and want to watch a movie =]

It looks like you have some leaks you need to plug, though. Based on your preflop range it looks like you probably get into a bit of trouble OOP with trappy TP hands when you raise with stuff like QTs or KJs and etc. which would lead to your bad non-showdown stats. That's one reason why I like to raise with lower SC type hands instead of suited broadways OOP because then I get into less trouble postflop, and I save the broadways for later positions.

On November 12 2008 14:29 JoeDeertay wrote: I think the KJ on the 34J flop was an okay fold because I doubt he decides to raise with worse other than a draw, and 3betting probably isn't correct OOP with one pair unless he is realllllllllllllllly LAG and has A LOT of straight air there. You could also flatcall and hope for a safe non-draw turn but I think he needs to raise with a ton of draws for the and it still lets him play perfectly against you imo. The AQo hand against the MR probably showed one reason why your red line is so low. Just because he MR doesn't mean you have to flatcall AQo OOP. Are you trying to flop a pair? Then what? You are going to felt an A/Qhi flop OOP against him? I think you lose a lot more than you win playing this way. Probably just raise or fold preflop OOP. lmfao @ the e-flirt and then scrolling over her avatar to see where she is from XD. Why don't you like to play SCs preflop? By 12:15 you folded I think 3 of them for like nothing. I'm def cbetting the 57ss hand OTB, and if I check behind there is def a bet on the turn after he checks twice. Seeing some of the hands you open folded OTB instead of stealing makes me think you might not be stealing enough, but I guess that's a style issue (I just saw you fold 47cc folded to OTB instead of stealing, and i'd probably make a stab with that and a lot more). I tend not to cbet shortstacks when I completely whiff esp on low boards because they just don't like to fold. Then you have to end up double barreling if you want folds and it just gets expensive to bluff, and by then you pretty much have to call if they shove OTT anyway because it's so cheap, making the hand even more expensive. (see KJ on 9hi flop against the Florida girl who open shoved turn) ok I stopped watching at about 30 minutes because I got board due to no audio and want to watch a movie =] It looks like you have some leaks you need to plug, though. Based on your preflop range it looks like you probably get into a bit of trouble OOP with trappy TP hands when you raise with stuff like QTs or KJs and etc. which would lead to your bad non-showdown stats. That's one reason why I like to raise with lower SC type hands instead of suited broadways OOP because then I get into less trouble postflop, and I save the broadways for later positions.

Thanks a bunch for the views.

I took pretty much all SCs out of my range because it seems like no one likes to fold to cbets, so I constantly end up on the turn with a total airball and I'm like wtf? I will start playing them again though.

I wasn't think of broadways as LP hands vs EP hands here, but I see what you're saying and I will stop raising 1gapper broadways in EP.

I will steal more, it just seems like everyone is suuuuuch a sick station that it isn't working out here at nl10.

I'll stop calling min3bets with AQ type dominated hands, this is something I only do at NL10 because I seem to get min3bet every other hand and I usually feel ahead of them on an Ahi flop or Qhi.. dunno

Hmmm

Thanks again^^

I doubt anyone will come all the way back to check this, so I'm going to post my stats in a new blog after my session. So about an hour from now...

On November 12 2008 14:42 Night2o1 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2008 14:29 JoeDeertay wrote: I think the KJ on the 34J flop was an okay fold because I doubt he decides to raise with worse other than a draw, and 3betting probably isn't correct OOP with one pair unless he is realllllllllllllllly LAG and has A LOT of straight air there. You could also flatcall and hope for a safe non-draw turn but I think he needs to raise with a ton of draws for the and it still lets him play perfectly against you imo. The AQo hand against the MR probably showed one reason why your red line is so low. Just because he MR doesn't mean you have to flatcall AQo OOP. Are you trying to flop a pair? Then what? You are going to felt an A/Qhi flop OOP against him? I think you lose a lot more than you win playing this way. Probably just raise or fold preflop OOP. lmfao @ the e-flirt and then scrolling over her avatar to see where she is from XD. Why don't you like to play SCs preflop? By 12:15 you folded I think 3 of them for like nothing. I'm def cbetting the 57ss hand OTB, and if I check behind there is def a bet on the turn after he checks twice. Seeing some of the hands you open folded OTB instead of stealing makes me think you might not be stealing enough, but I guess that's a style issue (I just saw you fold 47cc folded to OTB instead of stealing, and i'd probably make a stab with that and a lot more). I tend not to cbet shortstacks when I completely whiff esp on low boards because they just don't like to fold. Then you have to end up double barreling if you want folds and it just gets expensive to bluff, and by then you pretty much have to call if they shove OTT anyway because it's so cheap, making the hand even more expensive. (see KJ on 9hi flop against the Florida girl who open shoved turn) ok I stopped watching at about 30 minutes because I got board due to no audio and want to watch a movie =] It looks like you have some leaks you need to plug, though. Based on your preflop range it looks like you probably get into a bit of trouble OOP with trappy TP hands when you raise with stuff like QTs or KJs and etc. which would lead to your bad non-showdown stats. That's one reason why I like to raise with lower SC type hands instead of suited broadways OOP because then I get into less trouble postflop, and I save the broadways for later positions. Thanks a bunch for the views. I took pretty much all SCs out of my range because it seems like no one likes to fold to cbets, so I constantly end up on the turn with a total airball and I'm like wtf? I will start playing them again though. I wasn't think of broadways as LP hands vs EP hands here, but I see what you're saying and I will stop raising 1gapper broadways in EP. I will steal more, it just seems like everyone is suuuuuch a sick station that it isn't working out here at nl10. I'll stop calling min3bets with AQ type dominated hands, this is something I only do at NL10 because I seem to get min3bet every other hand and I usually feel ahead of them on an Ahi flop or Qhi.. dunno Hmmm Thanks again^^

I think you're just being results oriented with your suited connectors . They should be folding to your cbets w/ suited connectors just as much as any other hand. It's the same with AK anyway.