How the fuck did I manage + Video

586MB??

Yeah, trying to figure out a way to convert it to DIVX but virtualdub isn't showing a divx codec.. Not an expert at this.. had it sorted on my computer but it crashed & I'm on my moms

I'll try and re-do it and reupload it, wouldn't be available til like late tomorrow though which is tooooo long !

Ok I figured it out, I'll start uploading this when its done compressing, 'til then old link is up.

NL10 is hard:

wow you have virtual dub!! xvid is a good codec. make sure to compress audio to mp3 as well, that significantly reduces filesize,
you can turn up volume there while you are at it

lol silver, nice grindin'

heres mine:

lol, NL10 is easy.. I'm quite aware.

Which is why I'm so flabbergasted. I was crushing it for like 12bb/100 over 37k hands 4 months ago. Then again I was 4tabling not 12+.. which doesn't seem to be working out, lol.

(the database with that is on my computer, which is crashed, will have to recover the contents of the harddrive when I eventually get a new comp.. then proof!)



Ok, its uploading.. I have to sleep so I'll post the link in a couple of hours. Hopefully someone will be interested.

Its 173megs now. No audio.

if you can do it, always cut down your tables, it always helps

Yeah, I figure since I ought to be able to beat nl10 easily I could crank up the tables and get my roll back to 20BI for nl25, only 50 bucks to go.

Doesn't seem to be working but I am honestly not sure why.. o_O I think I am playing really similar to when I 4table NL10.. there isn't much to do.. bluffing of any sort is pretty off limits.. You just wait for a hand and valuetown it. Dunno..

Taking a look at my hand histories from today's 8k hands, I honestly got coolered or sucked out on quite a bit. Of course there are some questionably played hands, and a stack I bluffed off, but iunno. I'll keep working at it obviously, and maybe someone will take a look at my vid and comment on a leak they notice.

During WCGRider's challenge, wanted to try his style as well and played a few days of 10nl FR



quit at 500 obv

Nice one, what is that like 20bb/100 or something :o

/edit

its ~18 BB/100

WTF Explain yourself

Found this (from when I was doing this)



winrate probably has something to do with a couple of deepstack tables I guess

Would've hit 500 4k hands earlier if this hand http://www.pokerhand.org/?2668810 didn't happen. Obv shoved turn to pick it up, close down FTP and smile, that river hurt so bad

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FD2PAUWT

btw have any full ring tips o_O

Did you record this yesterday ? If so I'm in this video yay I wanna be star

Lol @ e-flirt (check my blog if you didn't follow), chatting aside, solid grind i'd say. Maybe a little spewwy on the mid stage with not really strong hands, but hey i'm not a 6max specialist.

so hard to concentrate watching it when there's no audio! just seen that KJ laydown on J43 board. marginal imo

Looks like you are getting raped in pots without showdown based on the graph. I'm guessing you fold too much in raised pots because it's a steady slope. Time to watch the vid and see

Haven't seen the video but from the looks of your graph you need to work on your non showdown winnings. They are pretty much negating your showdown winnings hence break even. Maybe you are running expensive bluffs at the wrong times and end up folding later streets? Or you put too much money in the pot and fold later when a fold on the flop would be best? Or cbetting in the wrong spots?

You shouldn't be 12 tabling 6max right now
Go back to 4 tabling

is your w$wsf abnormally low?

like joe is saying, it could be that you arent contesting pots hard enough where you might be ahead or they might have a bluffable range (player dependent obv)

or even maybe you fold on the river too often, or something, isnt the saying something like if you call and you're always right you arent calling enough?

anyway ur prolly overplaying ur hands a lot and playing too many hands

Thanks for the comments.

Ya.. I am definitely losing or giving up too much, but I'm not sure where. I suppose I'm having difficulty deciphering their hand strength. Not sure what I can do to alleviate this? Maybe I will post some hands that I gave up on when I get home in like 6 hours and see what people think.

I will check my w$wsf when I get home as well.

I think the KJ on the 34J flop was an okay fold because I doubt he decides to raise with worse other than a draw, and 3betting probably isn't correct OOP with one pair unless he is realllllllllllllllly LAG and has A LOT of straight air there. You could also flatcall and hope for a safe non-draw turn but I think he needs to raise with a ton of draws for the and it still lets him play perfectly against you imo.

The AQo hand against the MR probably showed one reason why your red line is so low. Just because he MR doesn't mean you have to flatcall AQo OOP. Are you trying to flop a pair? Then what? You are going to felt an A/Qhi flop OOP against him? I think you lose a lot more than you win playing this way. Probably just raise or fold preflop OOP.

lmfao @ the e-flirt and then scrolling over her avatar to see where she is from XD.

Why don't you like to play SCs preflop? By 12:15 you folded I think 3 of them for like nothing.

I'm def cbetting the 57ss hand OTB, and if I check behind there is def a bet on the turn after he checks twice.

Seeing some of the hands you open folded OTB instead of stealing makes me think you might not be stealing enough, but I guess that's a style issue (I just saw you fold 47cc folded to OTB instead of stealing, and i'd probably make a stab with that and a lot more).

I tend not to cbet shortstacks when I completely whiff esp on low boards because they just don't like to fold. Then you have to end up double barreling if you want folds and it just gets expensive to bluff, and by then you pretty much have to call if they shove OTT anyway because it's so cheap, making the hand even more expensive. (see KJ on 9hi flop against the Florida girl who open shoved turn)

ok I stopped watching at about 30 minutes because I got board due to no audio and want to watch a movie =]

It looks like you have some leaks you need to plug, though. Based on your preflop range it looks like you probably get into a bit of trouble OOP with trappy TP hands when you raise with stuff like QTs or KJs and etc. which would lead to your bad non-showdown stats. That's one reason why I like to raise with lower SC type hands instead of suited broadways OOP because then I get into less trouble postflop, and I save the broadways for later positions.

On November 12 2008 14:29 JoeDeertay wrote: I think the KJ on the 34J flop was an okay fold because I doubt he decides to raise with worse other than a draw, and 3betting probably isn't correct OOP with one pair unless he is realllllllllllllllly LAG and has A LOT of straight air there. You could also flatcall and hope for a safe non-draw turn but I think he needs to raise with a ton of draws for the and it still lets him play perfectly against you imo. The AQo hand against the MR probably showed one reason why your red line is so low. Just because he MR doesn't mean you have to flatcall AQo OOP. Are you trying to flop a pair? Then what? You are going to felt an A/Qhi flop OOP against him? I think you lose a lot more than you win playing this way. Probably just raise or fold preflop OOP. lmfao @ the e-flirt and then scrolling over her avatar to see where she is from XD. Why don't you like to play SCs preflop? By 12:15 you folded I think 3 of them for like nothing. I'm def cbetting the 57ss hand OTB, and if I check behind there is def a bet on the turn after he checks twice. Seeing some of the hands you open folded OTB instead of stealing makes me think you might not be stealing enough, but I guess that's a style issue (I just saw you fold 47cc folded to OTB instead of stealing, and i'd probably make a stab with that and a lot more). I tend not to cbet shortstacks when I completely whiff esp on low boards because they just don't like to fold. Then you have to end up double barreling if you want folds and it just gets expensive to bluff, and by then you pretty much have to call if they shove OTT anyway because it's so cheap, making the hand even more expensive. (see KJ on 9hi flop against the Florida girl who open shoved turn) ok I stopped watching at about 30 minutes because I got board due to no audio and want to watch a movie =] It looks like you have some leaks you need to plug, though. Based on your preflop range it looks like you probably get into a bit of trouble OOP with trappy TP hands when you raise with stuff like QTs or KJs and etc. which would lead to your bad non-showdown stats. That's one reason why I like to raise with lower SC type hands instead of suited broadways OOP because then I get into less trouble postflop, and I save the broadways for later positions.

Thanks a bunch for the views.

I took pretty much all SCs out of my range because it seems like no one likes to fold to cbets, so I constantly end up on the turn with a total airball and I'm like wtf? I will start playing them again though.

I wasn't think of broadways as LP hands vs EP hands here, but I see what you're saying and I will stop raising 1gapper broadways in EP.

I will steal more, it just seems like everyone is suuuuuch a sick station that it isn't working out here at nl10.

I'll stop calling min3bets with AQ type dominated hands, this is something I only do at NL10 because I seem to get min3bet every other hand and I usually feel ahead of them on an Ahi flop or Qhi.. dunno

Hmmm

Thanks again^^

I doubt anyone will come all the way back to check this, so I'm going to post my stats in a new blog after my session. So about an hour from now...

On November 12 2008 14:42 Night2o1 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 12 2008 14:29 JoeDeertay wrote: I think the KJ on the 34J flop was an okay fold because I doubt he decides to raise with worse other than a draw, and 3betting probably isn't correct OOP with one pair unless he is realllllllllllllllly LAG and has A LOT of straight air there. You could also flatcall and hope for a safe non-draw turn but I think he needs to raise with a ton of draws for the and it still lets him play perfectly against you imo. The AQo hand against the MR probably showed one reason why your red line is so low. Just because he MR doesn't mean you have to flatcall AQo OOP. Are you trying to flop a pair? Then what? You are going to felt an A/Qhi flop OOP against him? I think you lose a lot more than you win playing this way. Probably just raise or fold preflop OOP. lmfao @ the e-flirt and then scrolling over her avatar to see where she is from XD. Why don't you like to play SCs preflop? By 12:15 you folded I think 3 of them for like nothing. I'm def cbetting the 57ss hand OTB, and if I check behind there is def a bet on the turn after he checks twice. Seeing some of the hands you open folded OTB instead of stealing makes me think you might not be stealing enough, but I guess that's a style issue (I just saw you fold 47cc folded to OTB instead of stealing, and i'd probably make a stab with that and a lot more). I tend not to cbet shortstacks when I completely whiff esp on low boards because they just don't like to fold. Then you have to end up double barreling if you want folds and it just gets expensive to bluff, and by then you pretty much have to call if they shove OTT anyway because it's so cheap, making the hand even more expensive. (see KJ on 9hi flop against the Florida girl who open shoved turn) ok I stopped watching at about 30 minutes because I got board due to no audio and want to watch a movie =] It looks like you have some leaks you need to plug, though. Based on your preflop range it looks like you probably get into a bit of trouble OOP with trappy TP hands when you raise with stuff like QTs or KJs and etc. which would lead to your bad non-showdown stats. That's one reason why I like to raise with lower SC type hands instead of suited broadways OOP because then I get into less trouble postflop, and I save the broadways for later positions. Thanks a bunch for the views. I took pretty much all SCs out of my range because it seems like no one likes to fold to cbets, so I constantly end up on the turn with a total airball and I'm like wtf? I will start playing them again though. I wasn't think of broadways as LP hands vs EP hands here, but I see what you're saying and I will stop raising 1gapper broadways in EP. I will steal more, it just seems like everyone is suuuuuch a sick station that it isn't working out here at nl10. I'll stop calling min3bets with AQ type dominated hands, this is something I only do at NL10 because I seem to get min3bet every other hand and I usually feel ahead of them on an Ahi flop or Qhi.. dunno Hmmm Thanks again^^

I think you're just being results oriented with your suited connectors . They should be folding to your cbets w/ suited connectors just as much as any other hand. It's the same with AK anyway.