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iamalex   United States. Sep 11 2008 17:29. Posts 1556

i stand corrected.


iamalex   United States. Sep 11 2008 17:43. Posts 1556

so do you always go broke if the odds are 50/50?


killThemDonks   Canada. Sep 11 2008 17:56. Posts 2681


  On September 11 2008 11:03 Catul wrote:
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lol wtf I'm trying to dumb it down and even saying I'm doing so and you're telling me this has many holes and that it's more complicated than this ?


  you can go busto in more then one way with more than 1000 flips


Irrelevant, reread my post. What I said about losing the first 1000 flips only proves you have a > 0 chance to go bust since I showed one possibility.

I don't know where in my message I'm pulling numbers out of my ass. My answer above ( (49/51)^1000 ) is the exact answer, and I'd have bothered to write a proof if killThemDonks and Oly hadn't already provided links to it. The random walk isn't a "great idea", it's the fucking solution.

Now that I've read the links they gave, there is no complete proof (although it's strongly hinted at in the wikipedia article), so here's one. I've put it in spoiler because it takes quite some place. It's nothing difficult though and I've detailed every step.

+ Show Spoiler +



There we go. This defines the probability that was asked in the original post :



where
is the probability of busting starting with a bankroll of $x and playing for $1 everytime
is the probability of winning each time
is the probability of losing each time (p+q=1)





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iamalex   United States. Sep 11 2008 18:10. Posts 1556


  On September 11 2008 16:43 iamalex wrote:
so do you always go broke if the odds are 50/50?


nvm figured it out


Forrest Gump   Argentina. Sep 11 2008 22:32. Posts 1217

I believe the answer is the result of some power series that converges to a very small number

ADZ124: why do people put pictures of their child in stars.. its like please help feed my child im a fish i cant play? 

GsOne   Poland. Sep 12 2008 00:48. Posts 732

thanks for the proof, 'pulling number out of your ass' was about stating that the answer is (q/p)^x, and since you were talking about probability of going busto in x consecutive flips I somehow menaged to confuse q^x and (q/p)^x. Also I had no idea the answer will be so good looking.

thanks for straighting this out.

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KwarK   United Kingdom. Sep 12 2008 02:31. Posts 1019


  On September 10 2008 18:44 collegesucks wrote:
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sick point

You can quit poker.


boblion   Andorra. Sep 12 2008 08:04. Posts 354

So in simple words it is a profitable game where you can go broke but on the long term your chances to go broke decrease ?

I worship variance but she is a bitch. 

collegesucks   United States. Sep 12 2008 08:35. Posts 5780


  On September 12 2008 01:31 KwarK wrote:
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You can quit poker.



no i can't. fuck my life and fuck this game... T__T


 
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