9h, Qh by HeRoS)eNGagE - Page 3

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On May 26 2022 18:35 lostaccount wrote: Show nested quote + On May 26 2022 17:22 RiKD wrote:   On May 25 2022 04:35 gawdawaful wrote:   On May 23 2022 15:41 hiems wrote:   On May 22 2022 23:35 RiKD wrote: I will admit that hiems is right as far as no reads. It's possible he shows up with the 5d6d or Td9d or even the KdTd. He may also never bluff this spot. Lol @ "I will admit" U need ppl to hold ur hand like a baby to even get on ignition...u don't even know pot odds lol y do u think u r some poker champ This is what I mean about you, by whatever my choice of verbiage was. Take that how you will   On May 24 2022 23:08 RiKD wrote: I am not convinced it was a good idea to put money on Ignition. I know pot odds I just made a mistake. I don't think I am some poker champ. I am grinding 10 NL. Hey at least you didn't move to Pennsylvania to come to the same conclusion right?   On May 25 2022 00:23 lostaccount wrote: It’s not a good idea to think u gonna make 25-35$ an hour in poker anymore. If you want to win push ups then it’s a good idea. Rikd go play a 20-30$ tournament once in awhile for some fun but to grind cash game is a bad idea. Poker is dead man Also, $25-$35/hr isn't the same as $25-$35 a hour 10-15 years ago now too... I would be more excited about poker if I lived in PA and had access to PokerStars. Ignition has a lot of issues. yea but then u would have to pay rent food etc ur cost of living would be much higher and would u make enough to cover that?

I could write a lot to reply here but the simplest way to look at it is that let's say I crush 10 NL I am still probably only looking at $1,000/month.

I would want a better computer. Best deal would be $1,000. It's possible to get something sick if you know where to look and when.

$5,000 moving costs likely.

6 months living expenses ideal.

It is not a reality.

The reality is that even if I grind up successfully. At some time there will be a point where I am likely losing until I put in enough time in the solver lab. There is a lot I don't know about solvers. There is a lot I don't know about computers. Maybe 50 NL it is worth it to buy a new computer and Pio basic. Maybe that is 25 NL. Maybe that is 100 NL. I don't really know.

If I could make $40,000/yr with out having to super grind hands I would consider it. I'm not sure if that is possible for me. Another thing is what if it's only possible for 1 year? I don't know.

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I logged in for the first time in I don't know how many years to comment here. I dont play hold'em so much any more but I can't imagine without the solidest of reads that this hand could ever ever be a fold. Surely people can shove for thinner value or be bluffing or spazzing out especially the way the hands played, we've 3 bet bet 2 streets and now checked river and he's jammed like I think we just have to snap call and like I guess we've played it well... now call? (If we're not gonna bet bet check I think I would like to size bigger two streets so we can comfortably jam river).

I did snap call, he did exactly like i wanted, but after the hand i started to wonder about his play, his range, etc . wanted to have opinions about what his range should be.

45 comments? wtf?

overthink much?

snap call, underrepped, u threw the rope, snap and move on, probably win without looking.

On June 04 2022 00:57 Ryan Neilly wrote: 45 comments? wtf? overthink much? snap call, underrepped, u threw the rope, snap and move on, probably win without looking.

Fair enough.

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wow, so many comments, u are popular Engage.. definitely looks like a re-raise

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Results?

Don't get me wrong I know what you mean some opponents in some spots can only really have better here if they are absolutely never bluffing for whatever reason and some people you can say wouldn't value shove so big with a lower flush etc. So like if some live old nit who is just super careful and is winning a lot and never really bluffs anyway but definitely not if he is 'up for the day' (would just vbet smaller with lower flushes but then again these kind of guys would probably raise smaller flushes on flop or turn.. I think) then yea you think can correctly fold something like this but you have to absolutely know. Don't know if it's possible online it's too easy to shove and too hard to know players well enough and their current state of mind my opinion

But nowhere near enough information in my opinion to make that read and even if it's still so hard. I don't play holdem much at all just my thoughts.

I like how you played the hand though for sure prob value bets almost all hands he calls with and then for sure can turn a bunch of stuff into bluffs. Maybe some people just never spaz now or don't bluff enough but feels like with this action we are beat very rarely coming to the river, so just too little information to fold.

if he bets a different size on the river are we calling or shoving? I think we should definitely shove over a smallish bet but not so sure about the bigger sizes

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On July 06 2022 20:36 lostaccount wrote: im gonna assume n make an ass of u n me that he showed the nuts lol. usually ppl wouldnt post if its a bluff but my read might be wrong 50-50

No, i snap called and i won, he showed up T8hh

You trapped him wp. now call or raise just don't fold