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RiKD    United States. Feb 17 2020 06:50. Posts 6008
So, I hit the snooze button for 3 hours this morning. 3 fucking hours. So ridiculous. I got up in time to serve at Food Not Bombs though. Then I got invited to a DSA (Democratic Socialists of America) party. It was cool. There were a lot of people there. It was actually a little overwhelming. Most of the people there knew each other and I knew a handful somewhat. I like socialization but I am certainly not a social butterfly. There was also a conflict in which I was supposed to go to a labor meeting for the food and beverage industry but didn't receive any of the texts or I really don't even know what happened but I was down to go to that meeting. I was down to do whatever. I am trying to be friends with these people and am genuinely just trying to help. I believe in Food Not Bombs, I believe in Bernie for President, I believe in unions in the food and beverage industry. I am willing to spend my time on all of these things. It's a little frustrating to hit some snafus but it's only natural eh?

Anarchy exists today. Most of the people I was with were anarchists. We support Bernie out of harm reduction and perhaps a first step in Revolution. I think some anarchists can take it too far. I commented that it would be interesting to see Bernie's actual beliefs when he gets out of politics and she commented that his only opinions are what temperature to eat soup or what socks are comfortable and that the only value of Bernie in office is to drag him out of the office and shoot him in the head in the streets. I also got into an argument about ACAB with some people too. We were just getting into a good discussion when her girlfriend came in and she was cool too but it kind of killed the discussion. My position is that probably not all cops are bad. There position was that they are ALL complicit. Fair enough but also at the end of the day it is the structures in place that create all of this anyway. I will say there was this one time I forgot to close the garage door and the neighbors called the cops. They thought I was squatting at my parent's house. There were no guns drawn or any use of force. I simply got my id and they were on their way besides telling me to remember to close the garage door in an authoritative manner.

I would have liked to see more talk about praxis. Memes and this and that is only so entertaining. I don't know. I mostly just wrote postcards for the Bernie campaign and took it all in. As I said I'm not a social butterfly. There were a lot of people there I would like to spend more time with. So, again, it's just about being consistent and saying "yes" to things.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 17 2020 08:02. Posts 4609

Sounds like you met some real purists

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SleepyHead   . Feb 17 2020 08:56. Posts 878

Isn't anarchy right wing? Bernie wants big government. Anarchy is no government

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Loco   Canada. Feb 17 2020 08:59. Posts 20142

A Marxist-Leninist purist, yeah. That person's not an anarchist. The shooting stuff is some vanguard party crap talk.


  On February 17 2020 07:56 SleepyHead wrote:
Isn't anarchy right wing? Bernie wants big government. Anarchy is no government



Anarchy isn't simply "no government". It's "no rulers". Meaning you reject all forms of authority, not just the state. Anarchism is and has always been a far-left political philosophy. Its focus is and has always been on dismantling hierarchies and helping/protecting the most vulnerable. The right-wingers who call themselves anarchists are not anarchists; they're confused. They are capitalists whose focus is not on dismantling hierarchies but on enforcing the ones that benefit them, and their idea of an ideal society is one of complete corporate tyranny.

The big/small government talk is just a way to hoodwink people who are not at all familiar with the history of anarchism. Although the ideal is to overcome/overthrow the state, the most important value of anarchism is empathy towards the vulnerable. That empathy manifests itself by pursuing more egalitarianism in society in various ways. The more egalitarian a society is, the better. Anarchists have no doubt that it would be more egalitarian with someone like Sanders as president than with the other candidates, so they usually support him, but at the same time they want to try to get people to understand that electoral politics is only going to take you so far.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 17 2020 09:10. Posts 4609


  On February 17 2020 07:56 SleepyHead wrote:
Isn't anarchy right wing? Bernie wants big government. Anarchy is no government



In my personal view anarchism can be complementary to Bernie Sanders policies. A green new deal is a policy in opposition to another even more authoritarian institution, which is private power. That's something anarchists also oppose.

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neekerimies   Afghanistan. Feb 17 2020 20:06. Posts 7

what are these peoples problem about the current system? also, why do they want to shoot an old man?


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 17 2020 23:19. Posts 15115

Haha that girl seems hilarious
You take a true point: Old fucks way beyond pension age leading elections and countries
And you use a hyperbole like she did, I'd laugh with her even if I was a Bernie supporter


By the way I always wondered about Trump and his stupid spray tan
- but it makes so much sense, he's making himself look younger without the skin damage, damn prophetic of him to start doing it ages ago, he looks so much younger than he should

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RiKD    United States. Feb 18 2020 04:59. Posts 6008

She is actually very funny but I didn't find that funny. It's not truthful and it's absurd in not a funny way.

There is nothing prophetic about a narcissist ego-maniac spray tanning himself from a young age.


RiKD    United States. Feb 18 2020 05:55. Posts 6008

Nirvana's infamouse 1992 concert in Buenos Aires


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 18 2020 17:00. Posts 15115


  On February 18 2020 03:59 RiKD wrote:
She is actually very funny but I didn't find that funny. It's not truthful and it's absurd


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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 18 2020 17:11. Posts 15115


  On February 18 2020 04:55 RiKD wrote:
Nirvana's infamouse 1992 concert in Buenos Aires


lol
so many great songs in there
I guess the backlog became mainstream

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RiKD    United States. Feb 18 2020 21:35. Posts 6008

Maybe I was a little triggered or just confused. Why would an anarchist want to murder Bernie? It makes no sense. Medicare for all is a stronger opinion than what temp. soup should be. Green New Deal or the comfort of socks.... Whatever.


Loco   Canada. Feb 18 2020 22:08. Posts 20142

"In his dreadful lassitude and objectless rage, Cobain seemed to give wearied voice to the despondency of the generation that had come after history, whose every move was anticipated, tracked, bought and sold before it had even happened. Cobain knew that he was just another piece of spectacle, that nothing runs better on MTV than a protest against MTV; knew that his every move was a cliche scripted in advance, knew that even realising it is a cliche." - Mark Fisher

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 19 2020 00:41. Posts 9006


  On February 18 2020 20:35 RiKD wrote:
Maybe I was a little triggered or just confused. Why would an anarchist want to murder Bernie? It makes no sense. Medicare for all is a stronger opinion than what temp. soup should be. Green New Deal or the comfort of socks.... Whatever.


From my impression, most of the people in North America think Bernie is some sort of a hardcore commie thus it makes sense than a wannabe anarchist would wanna murder someone who'd they believe strive for full authority? Then again these same people believe the Democratic and Republican Party in the US are left-wing and right-wing which is hilarious on a whole other level

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RiKD    United States. Feb 19 2020 01:32. Posts 6008


  On February 18 2020 21:08 Loco wrote:
"In his dreadful lassitude and objectless rage, Cobain seemed to give wearied voice to the despondency of the generation that had come after history, whose every move was anticipated, tracked, bought and sold before it had even happened. Cobain knew that he was just another piece of spectacle, that nothing runs better on MTV than a protest against MTV; knew that his every move was a cliche scripted in advance, knew that even realising it is a cliche." - Mark Fisher



oooffff. Mark Fisher my god. I miss Cobain but I really miss Fisher.


RiKD    United States. Feb 19 2020 05:15. Posts 6008


  On February 18 2020 23:41 Spitfiree wrote:
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From my impression, most of the people in North America think Bernie is some sort of a hardcore commie thus it makes sense than a wannabe anarchist would wanna murder someone who'd they believe strive for full authority? Then again these same people believe the Democratic and Republican Party in the US are left-wing and right-wing which is hilarious on a whole other level


She isn't a wannabe anarchist. She knows her shit. I think she has just read one too many memes and likes being provocative.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 19 2020 08:55. Posts 15115


  On February 18 2020 20:35 RiKD wrote:
Maybe I was a little triggered or just confused. Why would an anarchist want to murder Bernie? It makes no sense. Medicare for all is a stronger opinion than what temp. soup should be. Green New Deal or the comfort of socks.... Whatever.


Why indeed... you got triggered and came off as a jackass most likely - it's so over the top it's damn hilarious and an obvious hyperbole

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 19 2020 08:59. Posts 15115

Triggered at an anarchist using over the top statements smh

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RiKD    United States. Feb 19 2020 15:07. Posts 6008

It's not over the top though if you are familiar with anarchist meme culture. It's the guillotine or execution for anyone that isn't Kropotkin. It's actually quite tiresome.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 19 2020 16:32. Posts 15115

So she'd actually pull the execution trigger on Bernie?

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