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Bar tenders earn more than poker pros now and they have more life experience

Honestly if I played part-time after a break and had little time I'd just get Snowie and try to leech off of someone else for sims

You will be way off in a lot of spots and Snowie's good enough for virtually no work put in you just chuck hands in run analysis, you don't need an hour to figure out Solver input and output for spots where you're way off
And NJ Stars should be pretty soft anyways if you play reg tables

Also work with solvers should be more strategic if you're serious than just running random spots when your time is limited
- These days the best thing is to pick e.g. BBvBU really workout the sizings, run a subset of a bunch of flops and focus on that for a while, chuck the outputs into a spreadsheet
And then practice it in game

And you can actually PLAY VS THAT DATABASE if you have GTO+ or simple postflop, think Pio doesn't have that yet
But depends on what gives you more joy - running that sick 3bet bluff in a 600bb pot is way more fun than another BBvBU flop frequencies vs bet breakdown, even though the latter will have drastically higher impact on your winrate

On February 12 2020 01:07 RiKD wrote: I will just say i/r/t socialization: like many things the longer it gets put off the harder it gets. I think I saw somewhere you said you were like 28. 28 is way harder than 18 at college but it's also way easier than 35. I really don't think this should be overlooked.

Age has fuckall to do with this FYI
Like with anything else getting IRL network of friends is simply about the effort you put in

EDIT: I mean okay "harder" as in how active you have to be, ok fair enough - school and college pushes people to be together so you can make friends passively
My life's just backward to most people's though I suppose, it feels far easier and smoother to make new friends at 32 than it was till 28

On February 13 2020 00:41 Stroggoz wrote: Bar tenders earn more than poker pros now and they have more life experience

Believe it or not
There is a bunch of people that love poker
TBH That's why I try to keep hanging out with part-time people that run sims and study poker theory for fun online - you get to suck their energy that's exactly the opposite of the former grinders that suck yours, because they do it on their own will as a hobby, and in the middle of a downer it's nice to be reminded that it's a game you can find great joy in just figuring it out

HMM Lemon rescues thread. nice job.

On February 13 2020 00:41 Stroggoz wrote: Bar tenders earn more than poker pros now and they have more life experience

yea well maybe the way I worded it might cause some confusion but I have a job and my financial goals are mainly tied to that not poker. there are very few scenarios in which I'd quit job for full time poker.

Age is a big factor lol.. In general it is much easier to befriend people around your own age, and in general, people who are 35+ are much more set (and less willing to 'make new friends') than people who are 30+ and people who are 30+ are much more set than people who are 20-25. I mean, at 35+ you can still go out for drinks with your colleagues and stuff like that, maybe you can even get invited for superbowl or champions league finals or whatever, if you really bond well.. But making new friends at 35+ sounds very difficult to me. Most likely case for that would be getting a new girlfriend (possible) and befriending her friends (will only happen if you click really well with them - but I have seen this happen).

Anyway if you're 20 and moving to a new city and you don't have friends, being reasonably socially competent and putting yourself out there is gonna work out. Being 35+ and making new friends is a whole lot more demanding. I've met several colleagues over the past couple years (having worked at many different schools) that I have clicked really well with in a workplace setting, but literally 0 that I have actually 'hung out with' outside of work-related socializing, simply because even though I like them and they like me, we're all too busy with our own shit to start making new friends.

Is the time the main issue for you ?
Or simply the energy when looking for new friends after interacting with people all day at work ?
The "much more set" part - is that about yourself as well and how you feel about people ?

Btw how does your city you live in look like?
Prague has hipster cafes and even huge spaces like old barracks with workshops then meetup groups, expat communities, hikers, societies, event goers, alcoholics etc. Maybe I'm spoiled but you can go and meet people with a theme any day of the week pretty much, and you can meet the same ones regularly. And there are even people in their 60s doing this and making new friend. Like me haha :D My oldest reasonably good friend I hangout with a few times per month is 67

And it's getting easier and easier now, a big focus is building psychological flexibility for me, it's vital in poker but awesome in being open to making friends that are nothing like you

Don't listen to these guys. Poker is still very good and with all the resource available, it takes very little effort to get better.
If you enjoy competing in competitive games, it's much better than use of your time than grinding video games.

Eh that x100000
Especially Dota2
It's way more addictive total time black hole
And you leave way more stressed out coming out of it than in

Hash tag Dotaholics anonymous I've uninstalled it about 500 times now in my life

On February 13 2020 20:52 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Is the time the main issue for you ? Or simply the energy when looking for new friends after interacting with people all day at work ? The "much more set" part - is that about yourself as well and how you feel about people ? Btw how does your city you live in look like? Prague has hipster cafes and even huge spaces like old barracks with workshops then meetup groups, expat communities, hikers, societies, event goers, alcoholics etc. Maybe I'm spoiled but you can go and meet people with a theme any day of the week pretty much, and you can meet the same ones regularly. And there are even people in their 60s doing this and making new friend. Like me haha :D My oldest reasonably good friend I hangout with a few times per month is 67 And it's getting easier and easier now, a big focus is building psychological flexibility for me, it's vital in poker but awesome in being open to making friends that are nothing like you

hm idk. really its not a big deal though I shouldnt't have even mentioned it so im not going to expand further on it. im pretty comfortable in my own skin at this point and it actually offers a ton of advantages.

On February 14 2020 13:08 AndrewSong wrote: Don't listen to these guys. Poker is still very good and with all the resource available, it takes very little effort to get better. If you enjoy competing in competitive games, it's much better than use of your time than grinding video games.

yea, thanks. this is my probably close to my general approach at the moment.

Wasn't asking you but the guys correlate age with hardness of making friends

ah ok.

with respect to the fact you think everyone else posting is stupid, you could be stupid also

you say "goals" but what's missing from the explanation is your motives. you say it's not really financial independence because job is better. okay noted.

I disagree with AndrewSong in that there are many games and similar things that can engage your competitive masculinity and it differs from person to person which one you can get the most out of. poker could be fine but it may not be the best thing for hiems. maybe hiems's true calling is billiards. this is not to discourage from poker, but sometimes we don't consider what's out there, outside our boxes.

like if you translate these goals to something else
-play 30 games of BW a month
-focus more on 2v2 tournaments
-get better with dodging smurfs
-analyze my replays and build orders

these "goals" i mean they just sound... self-evident, i want to play more and get better. yeah no shit. but you don't know necessarily what direction that could be. like why would you organize them as goals in this way for any game that's not about money, yet in the game that's played for money, that you say isn't really about money, but you have these goals, so i don't see what the motive is. like, i want to play higher stakes without losing because that's a thrill? i want to get good at multitabling zoom because that's where the flow is? i want to win a MTT at this buy-in because then i will have accomplished something? like of all the dimensions which one is your motive for these goals. just have a competitive fun hobby that also trickles in money rather than being a spending hobby, like lamp collecting for example. if you've asked yourself this and understand then okay but defensive as fuck blog as usual

On February 13 2020 20:52 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Is the time the main issue for you ? Or simply the energy when looking for new friends after interacting with people all day at work ? The "much more set" part - is that about yourself as well and how you feel about people ? Btw how does your city you live in look like? Prague has hipster cafes and even huge spaces like old barracks with workshops then meetup groups, expat communities, hikers, societies, event goers, alcoholics etc. Maybe I'm spoiled but you can go and meet people with a theme any day of the week pretty much, and you can meet the same ones regularly. And there are even people in their 60s doing this and making new friend. Like me haha :D My oldest reasonably good friend I hangout with a few times per month is 67 And it's getting easier and easier now, a big focus is building psychological flexibility for me, it's vital in poker but awesome in being open to making friends that are nothing like you

I don't drink anymore so it's doubly difficult but also in some ways easier because I have Alcoholics Anonymous. In college I lived in a suite with 10 men with a suite next door of 10 women with a suite next door of 10 men with a suite next door of 10 women, etc. in a tower of 28 floors of that situation. Drinking was lax in the dorms. ID'ing was lax in bars. There was a plethora of house parties at any given time. I remember playing missionred.com to increase my APM so I could own noobs at WarCraft 3 and this smart, quirky, attractive Indian (red dot... she didn't really have a red dot I just feel like being funny or racist or both) tells me I need to come out that night with our group of friends and her group of friends. Shit like that happened all the time. I'm actively trying not to be social but I am getting asked out to do stuff all the time.

28 is harder but hopefully the person has built up some skills. Women expect more.

If a woman is 35 and doesn't have kids and wants kids she's not going to fuck around.

Ok, I mean I don't want to go too in depth here because I and Drone have already laid it mostly out for you. There is the aspect of it being harder to acquire social skills the older one gets. University you can mess up a lot and it doesn't really matter. In AA one can mess up a lot and it doesn't really matter. But at 35 one doesn't want to alienate the social group one desires. People at 35 just aren't doing as much, have less tolerance for bull shit, etc.

I didn't really answer your questions:

Time is not a big issue but remember in college I had classes like a few hours a day and didn't study much so that's a lot of free time and I'm surrounded by people in a similar boat.

I still have plenty of energy. Socializing most days energizes me so it's not an issue.

I am not similar to drone in that I don't feel like I'm all set. I am actively trying to make new friends and connections. But I would say most people who are 35 are more inline with that "all set" mindset and aren't necessarily looking to put themselves out there to meet new people.

My city isn't bad. Doesn't sound as nice as your city but it's not horrible.

On February 15 2020 18:12 Santafairy wrote: with respect to the fact you think everyone else posting is stupid, you could be stupid also you say "goals" but what's missing from the explanation is your motives. you say it's not really financial independence because job is better. okay noted. I disagree with AndrewSong in that there are many games and similar things that can engage your competitive masculinity and it differs from person to person which one you can get the most out of. poker could be fine but it may not be the best thing for hiems. maybe hiems's true calling is billiards. this is not to discourage from poker, but sometimes we don't consider what's out there, outside our boxes. like if you translate these goals to something else -play 30 games of BW a month -focus more on 2v2 tournaments -get better with dodging smurfs -analyze my replays and build orders these "goals" i mean they just sound... self-evident, i want to play more and get better. yeah no shit. but you don't know necessarily what direction that could be. like why would you organize them as goals in this way for any game that's not about money, yet in the game that's played for money, that you say isn't really about money, but you have these goals, so i don't see what the motive is. like, i want to play higher stakes without losing because that's a thrill? i want to get good at multitabling zoom because that's where the flow is? i want to win a MTT at this buy-in because then i will have accomplished something? like of all the dimensions which one is your motive for these goals. just have a competitive fun hobby that also trickles in money rather than being a spending hobby, like lamp collecting for example. if you've asked yourself this and understand then okay but defensive as fuck blog as usual

ty for your advice gayfairy.

On February 15 2020 19:42 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On February 13 2020 20:52 LemOn[5thF] wrote: Is the time the main issue for you ? Or simply the energy when looking for new friends after interacting with people all day at work ? The "much more set" part - is that about yourself as well and how you feel about people ? Btw how does your city you live in look like? Prague has hipster cafes and even huge spaces like old barracks with workshops then meetup groups, expat communities, hikers, societies, event goers, alcoholics etc. Maybe I'm spoiled but you can go and meet people with a theme any day of the week pretty much, and you can meet the same ones regularly. And there are even people in their 60s doing this and making new friend. Like me haha :D My oldest reasonably good friend I hangout with a few times per month is 67 And it's getting easier and easier now, a big focus is building psychological flexibility for me, it's vital in poker but awesome in being open to making friends that are nothing like you I don't drink anymore so it's doubly difficult but also in some ways easier because I have Alcoholics Anonymous. In college I lived in a suite with 10 men with a suite next door of 10 women with a suite next door of 10 men with a suite next door of 10 women, etc. in a tower of 28 floors of that situation. Drinking was lax in the dorms. ID'ing was lax in bars. There was a plethora of house parties at any given time. I remember playing missionred.com to increase my APM so I could own noobs at WarCraft 3 and this smart, quirky, attractive Indian (red dot... she didn't really have a red dot I just feel like being funny or racist or both) tells me I need to come out that night with our group of friends and her group of friends. Shit like that happened all the time. I'm actively trying not to be social but I am getting asked out to do stuff all the time. 28 is harder but hopefully the person has built up some skills. Women expect more. If a woman is 35 and doesn't have kids and wants kids she's not going to fuck around. Ok, I mean I don't want to go too in depth here because I and Drone have already laid it mostly out for you. There is the aspect of it being harder to acquire social skills the older one gets. University you can mess up a lot and it doesn't really matter. In AA one can mess up a lot and it doesn't really matter. But at 35 one doesn't want to alienate the social group one desires. People at 35 just aren't doing as much, have less tolerance for bull shit, etc. I didn't really answer your questions: Time is not a big issue but remember in college I had classes like a few hours a day and didn't study much so that's a lot of free time and I'm surrounded by people in a similar boat. I still have plenty of energy. Socializing most days energizes me so it's not an issue. I am not similar to drone in that I don't feel like I'm all set. I am actively trying to make new friends and connections. But I would say most people who are 35 are more inline with that "all set" mindset and aren't necessarily looking to put themselves out there to meet new people. My city isn't bad. Doesn't sound as nice as your city but it's not horrible.

Sounds like the only difference is that you have to put in an active effort rather than be passive?

I guess you've been an alcoholic, but weak willpower aside what'd stop you from hanging out with people that drink and just don't drink alcohol?

What does being a woman at 28/35 have to do with making friends - I don't really see the problem. Just check any wine bar in the evenings and you'll see they find the time lol

I'm just saying college is constantly social. Everyone is in class like 15 hours a week if that and even the students who had to study a lot were typically organized and studious about it. "Hey, let's grab some food," "Hey, let's grab a picnic table down at Catfish Biff's," "Hey, the girls next door have some alcohol let's go over there."

In order to just have some non-alcoholic acquaintances these days I had to happen upon a Mexie vid where she mentions Food Not Bombs, find out the info on FNB, strike up the courage to go down there, and now I have to go consistently.

It's not about having been an alcoholic. I have alcoholism. It's not about willpower. I am different in mind and body. It's a disease. I am allergic. But nothing is stopping me from hanging out with people that drink and I don't drink. I do this on occasion. I'm not going to belly up to the bar by myself and order a club soda and cranberry juice though. I have to have a reason to be there. The other night I was hungry after work and didn't want to eat another PB&J so went to the only bar that still served food. I bellied up to the bar to have a sweet tea and a sandwich and the women next to me was sloppy drunk and the other guy next to me was taking all sorts of shots and it really wasn't much of a pleasurable experience. The bartender was nice but busy and the food was good but I haven't been back.

See that is the thing. I used to love wine bars. I would go by myself and found them more quiet and chill. I met some really interesting people in wine bars but again, today, I am not going to stroll into a wine bar by myself and sit there with a sparkling water and lime if they even have limes. And we were talking about making friends and dating. 35 yr old women will go to wine bars and complain about how guys don't have their shit together and I really can't blame them. No woman is going to want to have a baby with me at the moment so why would they even date me unless they also want to not be lonely, maybe laugh, have conversation, maybe some organic orgasms if I play my cards right and also they play their cards right. But I can't really provide the fun and excitement that the 20 somethings want and I can't provide the male provider that many 30 somethings want so it seems like I have to settle with desperate chubby women, single moms, and cougars. I quite like big women. "If models were made for modeling, big girls were made for cuddling" - Andre 3000.

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