Men - What is a man today? - Page 2

On August 26 2019 18:30 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2019 16:37 Obannon112 wrote:   On August 26 2019 15:09 lebowski wrote:   On August 26 2019 12:39 Obannon112 wrote: Also going to gym is essential for being a man. If you don't lift you are likely a fucking homo. yeah, because gay dudes don't work out at all Imagine clinging to a Word like that. I meant weak feminine men not Omar Little. So you are pro-gay, but anti-feminine men that dont lift - gotcha

I don't mind faggots if they carry themselves like men. I do mind men who think they are women though, like that thing in the video.

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On August 26 2019 14:20 Stroggoz wrote: i'd encourage men's rights activists to go around telling people their views rather than just reinforcing them on internet forums. if you ask children aged 3-5 they don't really have much expectations of what males should do. Moral psychologists asked them if there's anything wrong with boys wearing pink tutu's to class and they said there is nothing wrong with that(as compared to violent acts, which kids this age have a problem with). Imo these kids have a pretty unbiased, unfiltered view on the topic and their views should be taken seriously.

I never considered myself a men's rights activist although I definitely am. It's certainly good to have discussions. Most of the MRA space is pretty atrocious from my viewpoint.

The children aged 3-5 thing is brilliant. I want to interview my nephews and their classmates. I think a lot of people equate being a man to being some sort of breadwinner and of course "growing up" and paying bills. There is something to being the child that I used to know also though. What good is anything if we have no freedom? Being a man is about being a free man who experiences joy. We could get into the emotions and vulnerabilities...

I think it was also Bertrand Russell who said making a beast of yourself takes away some of the pain of being a man. There is some truth to this but I don't think lifting or not is some test of masculinity. I would say after rackpulling 500+ lbs. listening to Rage Against the Machine I feel like more of a man and in some ways in this example I think it is true. But, not true when I would eat 60g of beef protein and potatoes until my stomach was overfull (but, I had to do that to get to 230 lbs. of serious muscle to be more manly). What about when I was fucking a woman and cumming inside of her? I could go on forever. You know what makes me feel like a man today? When I am kind, honest, helpful. We need new role models. My 3 year old nephew is pretty awesome and living life. He's not a bad role model. I've heard people like Terry Crews and Keanu Reaves are pretty good examples and at least in Keanu Reaves case that is definitely true.

I just lost a friend to suicide and I just wonder if he had better role models than Lil' Wayne and some better connection and community we can save some of these "sadboys" whether that's from turning to the alt-right or turning to suicide.

If the choice is walking into a bar like John Wayne and drinking tequila by myself and painting nudes in bright colors I'll take the ladder every time.

Does that make me more or less of a man?

There is an aspect of being a man inline with freedom. Do what I want. I don't want to wear a pink tutu to run errands but if I did I fucking would.

And, we can't have this discussion without bringing up toxic masculinity. I mean Obannan is a troll but if he isn't he's clearly been programmed with toxic masculine leanings.

setting limits on yourself is pretty retarded either way

judging others is pretty narrow-minded, do whatever as long as you don't hurt others

and yeah Obannon is a troll or he gets a fight or flight response from a gay/transgenders/intersex or whatever she is in the video which is kind of entertaining cause it just pictures him as a weakling while struggling to project strength

Natalie is a transgender woman or non-binary "transtrender." For me, it's a little complicated to keep up with all that stuff. I figure they know more about that stuff than me so let them run with it. It doesn't really effect me at all what Natalie calls herself or identifies with.

homophobia/transphobia is definitely a toxic masculinity trait. I think if we just whittle away the toxic masculinity the world would be a substantially better place. I think a problem with that is that a lot of the attributes of toxic masculinity can give men a competitive advantage in capitalism so why would they think to let that go or why would they want to? It also applies to dating under capitalism.

Contrapoints mentions something quite interesting about the people she has "saved" from the alt-right, that they didn't become remotely centrist but they re-radicalized into communism/anarchism, sounds strange to swing from one extreme to the other but it kinda shows that these are not usually positions arrived through careful considerations but as an lashout to the percieved injustices in the world.

On August 26 2019 21:23 RiKD wrote: Does that make me more or less of a man? There is an aspect of being a man inline with freedom. Do what I want. I don't want to wear a pink tutu to run errands but if I did I fucking would.

And then you would complain how fucked up the society is because men would be howling with laughter whenever your intersectional male feminist ass would walk by.

those social experiment walking videos always just make me wish strangers would ever talk to me outside

On August 27 2019 12:09 Obannon112 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2019 21:23 RiKD wrote: Does that make me more or less of a man? There is an aspect of being a man inline with freedom. Do what I want. I don't want to wear a pink tutu to run errands but if I did I fucking would. And then you would complain how fucked up the society is because men would be howling with laughter whenever your intersectional male feminist ass would walk by.

Yeah, because harassing strangers is such a positive aspect of society.

interesting way to portray homsexuals lol

I thought obannon was a homophobe then shares videos displaying how homophobia is bad lol what's going on here.
Gay dudes are cool but it gets tricky with these tranny being a woman arguments. For fucks sake we redefining biology with nonsense might as well remove genders altogether so I can watch TJ Dillashaw vs Amanda Nunes

im good with all because im an open minded person