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I know two guys who will get 50K$

On February 18 2019 03:03 Montrachet wrote: I know two guys who will get 50K$

and brain damage.

On February 18 2019 03:09 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On February 18 2019 03:03 Montrachet wrote: I know two guys who will get 50K$ and brain damage.

I was surprised that Anik wanted to interview Barbanera. The guy was concussed since R2

^lol

If you guys didn't know, Cain's knee buckled 1-2 days ago in a video.

It was the cause of him losing this fight, which sucks.

time to retire cain fuk

They keep saying that cain was KO'ed. Was there even 1 clean punches? the one-two they keep referring two misses.

On February 18 2019 04:49 PuertoRican wrote: If you guys didn't know, Cain's knee buckled 1-2 days ago in a video. It was the cause of him losing this fight, which sucks.

link?

welp, that was sad

On February 19 2019 04:09 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: Show nested quote + On February 18 2019 04:49 PuertoRican wrote: If you guys didn't know, Cain's knee buckled 1-2 days ago in a video. It was the cause of him losing this fight, which sucks. link?

At 42 seconds in this vid:

oh wow I didnt know about that, then its absolutely time to retire, those knees are toally gone

Francis deserves credit for the win. There's a replay showing his short uppercut starting Cain's momentary limp fall to the ground and only then is when awkward force made the knee give. Knee was definitely a factor since Cain's face upon landing was a grimace from someone injured, not someone who had their bell completely rung but you can't take anything away from Francis

Just how good was Cain really? Think this deserves to be asked given that his injuries have actually kind of made him into a near mythical prime figure. Heavyweight is not filled with natural talent and the obvious variance makes it difficult to truly judge greatness which leads to stuff like the UFC having to repeatedly hammer home Stipe as the most accomplished heavy ever based on his three (3!!!!) defenses. Looking at Cain, his prime/title reign consisted of him smashing JDS, who's one deficiency is Cain's strength, and two fights with Bigfoot Silva. Silva had his strengths (his strength) but he may as well have been made in a lab for someone like Cain to look good against. Way too slow. Then if you look at his losses, there's always been a good narrative of excuses. Even if he was compromised, facts are he competed...and was caught by JDS and now Francis. And the sea level Cain thing for Werdum was just all around bullshit. I think Werdum would've always been a poor matchup for Cain, it's not like Cain was wiping the floor with Werdum even in round 1, and in the end, it's all your responsibility anyways. I remember that embedded. One guy, Werdum, took things seriously and trained in Mexico City's elevation for several weeks. The other finished up in SoCal only to go up 7k in elevation for a fight 3-4 days beforehand. Reap what you sow. So yeah the JDS maulings were super impressive but it's just one guy? What's his actual best win if you take JDS out of it? Brock?

I enjoyed Cain while he was around (just going to assume this is it). His win vs Brock was one of the more memorable events kind of ever. Super dominant in the brief time we were able to see him but if you hypothetically cut other fighters' careers at some arbitrary halfway point before they got to prove their longevity and adaptability vs all styles, we could've had some similar what if's. I don't think Cain stands alone in that even if he was a bit unique to the heavyweight division