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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 17 2018 06:15. Posts 13030

Date: Saturday, December 29
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 00:15 LP.net / 3:15pm PST / 6:15pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 2:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 4:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.fìrstrow.eu/




Main Card (PPV)

Jon Jones (22-1) vs. Alexander Gustafsson (18-4) (Light Heavyweight Championship)
Cris Cyborg (20-1) vs. Amanda Nunes (16-4) (Women's Featherweight Championship)
Carlos Condit (30-12) vs. Michael Chiesa (14-4) (Welterweight)
Ilir Latifi (14-5) vs. Corey Anderson (11-4) (Light Heavyweight)
Chad Mendes (18-4) vs. Alexander Volkanovski (18-1) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Andrei Arlovski (27-17) vs. Walt Harris (11-7) (Heavyweight)
Cat Zingano (10-3) vs. Megan Anderson (8-3) (Women's Featherweight)
Douglas Silva de Andrade (25-2) vs. Petr Yan (10-1) (Bantamweight)
BJ Penn (16-12-2) vs. Ryan Hall (6-1) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Andre Ewell (14-4) vs. Nathaniel Wood (14-3) (Bantamweight)
Uriah Hall (13-9) vs. Bevon Lewis (6-0) (Middleweight)
Curtis Millender (16-3) vs. Siyar Bahadurzada (24-6-1) (Welterweight)
Brian Kelleher (19-9) vs. Montel Jackson (6-1) (Bantamweight)

Other

- Tom Duquesnoy was expected to face Nathaniel Wood at the event. However, Duquesnoy pulled out of the fight on November 12 citing a rib injury. On November 30, Andre Ewell agreed to step in and fight Wood.
- At the weigh-ins, Montel Jackson weighed in at 137 lbs, 1 pound over the bantamweight non-title fight limit of 136 lbs. He was fined 20% of his fight purse and his bout against Brian Kelleher will proceed as a catchweight fight.

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 17 2018 06:24. Posts 13030






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First impression of the match-ups:

• Jones > Gustafsson (great match-up, and my favorite fight on the card)
• Cyborg > Nunes (good match-up, and tied for my second favorite fight on the card)
• Condit vs. Chiesa (dunno; I lean Chiesa because he can get the TD, but this fight stinks on paper)
• Latifi vs. Anderson (dunno; good match-up, but will probably be a boring fight even if someone wins ITD)
• Mendes vs. Volkanovski (dunno; good match-up, and tied for my second favorite fight on the card)
• Arlovski > Harris
• Zingano > Anderson
• Andrade vs. Yan (dunno; good match-up)
• Hall > Penn (boring decision via a lot of leg kicks by Hall and nothing interesting happening on the ground like BJ hopes it will -- Hall is actually the better BJJ fighter at this point)
• Kelleher > Jackson
• Ewell vs. Wood (I first picked Wood, but now I'm not sure; good match-up)
• Hall vs. Lewis (dunno)
• Millender vs. Bahadurzada (dunno; good match-up)

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 17 2018 10:11. Posts 9634

I'd say the main event is the worst possible fight to bet on, prob as bad as betting on the Uriah Hall matches


handbanana21   United States. Dec 18 2018 08:34. Posts 3037

going to this fight live. I think the jones that showed up for the DC rematch will finish this inside 3 rounds.


traxamillion   United States. Dec 19 2018 02:47. Posts 10468


  On December 18 2018 07:34 handbanana21 wrote:
going to this fight live. I think the jones that showed up for the DC rematch will finish this inside 3 rounds.



Small chance he isn't roiding for this fight though and if he isn't he is likely in trouble. I imagine he got his cycle right though and his lab is making sure his designer testosterone isn't getting tainted this time. That turinabol came from sloppy synthesis / unclean glass


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 20 2018 22:29. Posts 9634

I dreamt that Gustaffson takes Jones down, and while falling Jones gets so mad he 1 shot KOs him while going down, then continues mauling him, and the ref comes in, except instead of stopping Jones just 1 shot KOs the ref too

what is wrong with me


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 21 2018 00:52. Posts 13030


  On December 20 2018 21:29 Spitfiree wrote:
I dreamt that Gustaffson takes Jones down, and while falling Jones gets so mad he 1 shot KOs him while going down, then continues mauling him, and the ref comes in, except instead of stopping Jones just 1 shot KOs the ref too

what is wrong with me


Anything can happen...

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K40Cheddar   United States. Dec 22 2018 08:30. Posts 2202

Maybe I'm stupid as fuck but cyborg at -260 seems like some free money no?

GG 

PuertoRican   United States. Dec 22 2018 21:27. Posts 13030

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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 23 2018 03:03. Posts 34246


  On December 22 2018 07:30 K40Cheddar wrote:
Maybe I'm stupid as fuck but cyborg at -260 seems like some free money no?



I dont see Amanda knocking her own and she will probably just exhaust herself, I was absolutely amazed at Cyborgs cardio I figured given her size she would gas fast but nope.

Anyway she is paying -260 so its not like people are not agreeing with us

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 23 2018 03:20. Posts 9634

After watching Inside the Octagon i feel like JBJ will smack Gustafson hard and TKO him in 4 rounds tops


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 23 2018 05:13. Posts 13030


  On December 23 2018 02:20 Spitfiree wrote:
After watching Inside the Octagon i feel like JBJ will smack Gustafson hard and TKO him in 4 rounds tops


If Jones doesn't have any ring rust, he should win.

People are overrating Gustafsson, thinking he has improved so much. They like to reference his win over Glover, but he didn't look great until he landed multiple uppercuts against an old, slow fighter who gets hit a lot, especially with punches down the middle.

Let's not forget that Gustafsson hasn't fought much during the past 2 years. This will be his first fight in the past 1.5 years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Gustafsson#Mixed_martial_arts_record

Jones fought more recently than Gustafsson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jones#Mixed_martial_arts_record

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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 23 2018 23:58. Posts 34246

agreed, somehow Jones has been more active than Gus, also as the vid suggest, Cormier showed how to grapple with Gus so Jon will probably copy some key moves

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wongfeihung   United States. Dec 24 2018 01:21. Posts 48



Jon Jones tests positive for trace amounts of turinabol again, so Nevada wouldn't license him. Instead of replacing him, Dana just moves the entire event from Vegas to LA. Lol


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 24 2018 01:38. Posts 13030


  On December 24 2018 00:21 wongfeihung wrote:


Jon Jones tests positive for trace amounts of turinabol again, so Nevada wouldn't license him. Instead of replacing him, Dana just moves the entire event from Vegas to LA. Lol


https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/12/2...d-to-california-one-week-out-mma-news

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 24 2018 03:28. Posts 9634

Steroids could easily stay in your system for 18 months, this seems like a trace from the last time he fought DC.


Are the tests really that expensive in the USA that the UFC doesn't have an in-house testing for such cases? This could potentially cost them millions of dollars and could easily be prevented if Jones was tested and this event was set up a few months into 2019. I think Dana once spoke about a single test being 50,000$? What the fuck is that?

Whatever happens now, the event will be badly stained. I hope Jones really is a motherfucker that gives no fucks and doesn't get ruined by the stress of another bad publicity.


K40Cheddar   United States. Dec 24 2018 03:49. Posts 2202


  On December 23 2018 02:03 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



I dont see Amanda knocking her own and she will probably just exhaust herself, I was absolutely amazed at Cyborgs cardio I figured given her size she would gas fast but nope.

Anyway she is paying -260 so its not like people are not agreeing with us


Yeah but im saying i think cyborg should be like -500 to -1000 in reality if it wasnt for nunes hype train

GG 

PuertoRican   United States. Dec 25 2018 00:22. Posts 13030





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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 27 2018 09:48. Posts 34246

he keeps jucing lol ffs

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 27 2018 11:53. Posts 9634

he obviously doesn't, but this confirms that his suspension was well deserved

Dana said they found traces of it in a part of a picogram, a picogram is 1 trillionth of a gram... and it comes after 8 negative tests... its obviously a result of his previous juicing

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whammbot   Belarus. Dec 27 2018 16:37. Posts 517

I cant trust this guy anymore. Every fucking fight since USADAs been around hes failed at some shit. That OSP fight is also something I cant get out of my head.

I had Gustafsson beating him simply because Alex has nothing to lose and will be looser and less tentative this time. I hope Alex beats him tbh

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 28 2018 01:07. Posts 13030




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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 28 2018 02:13. Posts 9634

If this sport was based on moral high grounds then sure Gustafsson and everybody else (except DC cause he s a disgusting shit as well) would win vs Jon Jones... It's not however, and Jones looks more pissed than ever, and considering how much he improved in his rematch vs DC and the rumours that he barely trained for the previous match against Gustafson, I'm guessing he's just going to destroy Gustafsson :/

JBJ a scum, sure. He is also a cheater, which is unfortunate, as he is probably the best MMA fighter ever (well its between him and Silva). I feel like the UFC will suffer a lot in the long run if it continues to treat its fighters this way though. This year was a complete joke regarding the things they're doing, this is turning more and more into a WWE type of institution


whammbot   Belarus. Dec 28 2018 08:11. Posts 517


whammbot   Belarus. Dec 29 2018 00:35. Posts 517

Post taken from the RB(S69):

"This is a Re-Re-post (by Boddha), that Jamie Keeps deleting on the JRE Podcast. Please copy and paste ???????? This is the most pathetic attempt at damage control I've ever seen ????. Mibolerone aka Cheque Drops (CD) is the drug Jon Jones was taking, CD has a half life of 2-4 hours and it's very popular with fighters and powerliftes (Jones has connections with powerlifters), CD is often cut with Turinabol because they're similar (except CD is MUCH more potent and has a much shorter half life).

CD is taken in microdosages, this explains why Jones had such small trace amounts of turinabol in his system, turinabol is taken in mg not microdosages, the fact that Jon had picograms and results that he was clean and other results showing obvious signs of re-administration supports this. If you want more info on CD just google "(60:14) Brendan explains Turinabol - Jon Jones" , you'll find a Reddit link where an actual PED expert explains why Jon had Turinabol in his system (Tweet the link to Daniel Cormier, tweet to Cormier about Mibolerone) or you can click on this link which takes you to Brendan's podacst in which he reads a message that a PED expert sent him https://youtu.be/4MfG5VzzLb0#t=32m52s and skip to 32:52

Funny how Brendan never mentioned this on Joe's podcast, I wouldn't be surprised if Joe told Brendan not to talk about it on the JRE. Remember people, Joe, Jeff and USADA work for the UFC. Last time I posted this on a Jon Jones PED video, the Powerful Young Jamie deleted my comment (TWICE) the last time it had almost 2K likes.??"


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 29 2018 01:32. Posts 13030




Jon Jones (204) vs. Alexander Gustafsson (204.5)
Cris Cyborg (144) vs. Amanda Nunes (145)
Carlos Condit (171) vs. Michael Chiesa (170.5)
Ilir Latifi (205.5) vs. Corey Anderson (204.5)
Chad Mendes (146) vs. Alexander Volkanovski (145)
Andrei Arlovski (245.5) vs. Walt Harris (258.5)
Megan Anderson (146) vs. Cat Zingano (144)
Petr Yan (135.5) vs. Douglas Silva de Andrade (134.5)
B.J. Penn (156) vs. Ryan Hall (154)
Nathaniel Wood (135.5) vs. Andre Ewell (135.5)
Uriah Hall (185.5) vs. Bevon Lewis (186)
Curtis Millender (170) vs. Siyar Bahadurzada (171)
Brian Kelleher (135) vs. Montel Jackson (137*) - Jackson fined 20% of his purse


  On December 28 2018 23:35 whammbot wrote:
Post taken from the RB(S69):

"This is a Re-Re-post (by Boddha), that Jamie Keeps deleting on the JRE Podcast. Please copy and paste ???????? This is the most pathetic attempt at damage control I've ever seen ????. Mibolerone aka Cheque Drops (CD) is the drug Jon Jones was taking, CD has a half life of 2-4 hours and it's very popular with fighters and powerliftes (Jones has connections with powerlifters), CD is often cut with Turinabol because they're similar (except CD is MUCH more potent and has a much shorter half life).

CD is taken in microdosages, this explains why Jones had such small trace amounts of turinabol in his system, turinabol is taken in mg not microdosages, the fact that Jon had picograms and results that he was clean and other results showing obvious signs of re-administration supports this. If you want more info on CD just google "(60:14) Brendan explains Turinabol - Jon Jones" , you'll find a Reddit link where an actual PED expert explains why Jon had Turinabol in his system (Tweet the link to Daniel Cormier, tweet to Cormier about Mibolerone) or you can click on this link which takes you to Brendan's podacst in which he reads a message that a PED expert sent him https://youtu.be/4MfG5VzzLb0#t=32m52s and skip to 32:52

Funny how Brendan never mentioned this on Joe's podcast, I wouldn't be surprised if Joe told Brendan not to talk about it on the JRE. Remember people, Joe, Jeff and USADA work for the UFC. Last time I posted this on a Jon Jones PED video, the Powerful Young Jamie deleted my comment (TWICE) the last time it had almost 2K likes.??"


This makes me like Jon Jones even more, aside from the fact that he is the better fighter.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 29 2018 03:24. Posts 9634

Lets be honest here though... if the UFC had any control over USADA they wouldnt be randomly testing their athletes for their biggest fights...


Would be funny if Jones gets caught again post fight :D

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Into Infinity   United States. Dec 29 2018 09:53. Posts 1884

jones didn't pop vs OSP

if today's "clean" jones is the same as OSP jones, i think gus is great value at +200.

i also think nunes is good value at +230. cyborg has really only fought bums (outside of holm, who might even be considered an MMA bum since her record sucks), but she looks yuuuuuge compared to nunes, who i think is probably a more complete package. this can either be a great fight or another rory/moose.

chiesa is a bum but condit is washed, so who knows.

jones/cyborg/chiesa/latifi/mendes

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lucky331   . Dec 29 2018 10:56. Posts 1124

looks like gustaffson needs the peds more. lol.


whammbot   Belarus. Dec 29 2018 11:38. Posts 517


  On December 29 2018 08:53 Into Infinity wrote:
jones didn't pop vs OSP

if today's "clean" jones is the same as OSP jones, i think gus is great value at +200.

i also think nunes is good value at +230. cyborg has really only fought bums (outside of holm, who might even be considered an MMA bum since her record sucks), but she looks yuuuuuge compared to nunes, who i think is probably a more complete package. this can either be a great fight or another rory/moose.

chiesa is a bum but condit is washed, so who knows.

jones/cyborg/chiesa/latifi/mendes



I'll need more than +200 because Jones can get away with PEDS lol. Alex needs to be the best, most aggressive Alex and fight the perfect fight to pull this off. That OSP fight was the first time USADA came on board iirc, which is why I can't get it out of my head because since then almost every fight he's had he's been busted with some shady dick pills, drugs, PEDS etc. Before USADA Jones was just smokin dudes left and right, just like Anderson Silva did. Seeing the golden snitch becoming more and more Dana's spokesperson isnt a good look at all. Regulation was simply for valuation and TV deals and now that's over the UFC seems to be arbitrarily selecting which fighters to pass or fuck over.


lucky331   . Dec 29 2018 17:27. Posts 1124

i hope gustaffson beats the black cheater jones. i would be laauugghing really hard all the way to the cheese burger joint.


lucky331   . Dec 29 2018 17:28. Posts 1124

and i hope cyborg wins. there's someting about nunes' face that i don't like.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 29 2018 18:17. Posts 9634

Dana White and JBJ handled the female reporter pretty poorly.


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 29 2018 19:32. Posts 13030


  On December 29 2018 09:56 lucky331 wrote:
looks like gustaffson needs the peds more. lol.


You're talking about how soft and out of shape Gustafsson looks during the weigh-in, right? I thought the same.

Gus is never ripped and muscular, but he looks soft when compared to what he usually looks like, imo. Once he hydrates, his body will look chubbier/softer because of the liquid and food.

Jones looked skinny during the weigh-in, but by the time he got to the ceremonial weigh-in, he already looked way bigger on the scale. When he stood next to Gus, there was a noticeable difference.

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 00:14. Posts 13030



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My final picks:

• Jones > Gustafsson
• Cyborg > Nunes
• Condit > Chiesa
• Latifi > Anderson
• Volkanovski > Mendes
• Harris > Arlovski
• Zingano > Anderson
• Yan > Andrade
• Hall > Penn
• Kelleher > Jackson
• Ewell > Wood
• Lewis > Hall
• Bahadurzada > Millender

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 00:31. Posts 13030

Sick win for Jackson... Too bad I expected that fight to go to a decision, and only had one team with Jackson.

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 01:31. Posts 13030

Lewis... sigh.

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hiems   United States. Dec 30 2018 02:06. Posts 2979

small bet on cyborg -260. lets gooo!

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 02:12. Posts 13030


  On December 30 2018 01:06 hiems wrote:
small bet on cyborg -260. lets gooo!


Cyborg is -170 on 5dimes right now.

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Hopefully BJ Penn retires now. He knows he can't beat anyone standing, and he just got submitted and tapped real fast.

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alejandicto   . Dec 30 2018 02:13. Posts 865

Nice sub by Ryan : O


alejandicto   . Dec 30 2018 02:28. Posts 865


hiems   United States. Dec 30 2018 02:35. Posts 2979


  On December 30 2018 01:12 PuertoRican wrote:
Show nested quote +


Cyborg is -170 on 5dimes right now.

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Hopefully BJ Penn retires now. He knows he can't beat anyone standing, and he just got submitted and tapped real fast.


Hm yeah seems like its -172 on fanduel nj.

Doesnt matter tho I had to place it yesterday cause I was going to be out of nj today.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 02:50. Posts 13030

Yan looking like a beast!

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alejandicto   . Dec 30 2018 03:08. Posts 865

what the fuck


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 03:09. Posts 13030

Sigh...

Another blunder for my night.

I had Zingano in most of my teams, but luckily not my main teams. Shitty part is, Megan Anderson will get 90+ for the win and be on the winning team at the end of the night.

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TimDawg    United States. Dec 30 2018 03:55. Posts 10197

Stream anyone?

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 04:03. Posts 13030


  On December 30 2018 02:55 TimDawg wrote:
Stream anyone?


http://ripple.is/mma/5588-ufc-232-jones-vs-gustafsson-2

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 04:34. Posts 13030

GREAT performance + win by Alexander Volkanovski!

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alejandicto   . Dec 30 2018 04:35. Posts 865

nice fight, second round was a war


alejandicto   . Dec 30 2018 04:36. Posts 865

its nice to see new prospects


whammbot   Belarus. Dec 30 2018 04:48. Posts 517

That Latifi is a unit.


Floofy   Canada. Dec 30 2018 05:23. Posts 8708

I'd bet on condit and jones if i was betting. Let's see how bad i am

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alejandicto   . Dec 30 2018 05:32. Posts 865

FUCKKKKKK!


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 05:33. Posts 13030

Sigh...

Carlos Condit's TDD seriously gets worse as the years go by. It's so fucking sad.

Now all of my remaining teams are dead.

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Floofy   Canada. Dec 30 2018 05:53. Posts 8708

wow. i was honnestly expecting Nunes to win, but not DOMINATION like this lol

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whammbot   Belarus. Dec 30 2018 05:54. Posts 517

Nunes cleaner striking. Also fucks chicks on the reg so she wins the who has the most natural testosterone contest. Omg watching her cry like that I feel so happy for her, I hope she has a good and long reign. She's probably one of the most overlooked and ignored champ by the UFC

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PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 05:55. Posts 13030

Great win for Nunes.

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alejandicto   . Dec 30 2018 05:56. Posts 865

Holly fuck I think nobody was waiting that :O


lucky331   . Dec 30 2018 06:04. Posts 1124

wow


PuertoRican   United States. Dec 30 2018 06:23. Posts 13030

R1: Jones (landed more, whereas Gustafsson looked like he was trying to find his range/get comfortable throughout the round)
R2: Jones (he landed more mostly via counters as Gustafsson kept jogging forward)

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Big improvements from Jon Jones, which made Alexander Gustafsson's skill set look outdated and ineffective.

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hiems   United States. Dec 30 2018 06:36. Posts 2979

Fuck

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

Baalim   Mexico. Dec 30 2018 06:42. Posts 34246

Jones seemed invincible the Gustaffson that knocked Texeira with ease couldn't put any offensive right now, JJ the clear GOAT in my book.

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Big_Rob_isback   United States. Dec 30 2018 06:42. Posts 211

I want to see Jon fight DC at heavyweight

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SpasticInk   Sweden. Dec 30 2018 06:45. Posts 6298

That was dissapointing. But Jones, in the interview- seemed like he had everything figured out (very well analyzed).


Into Infinity   United States. Dec 30 2018 07:45. Posts 1884

amanda's win was extremely satisfying for me. always liked her as a fighter and ufc might actually might start to give her a push.

had no idea what cyborg's gameplan was.


Baalim   Mexico. Dec 30 2018 07:55. Posts 34246


  On December 30 2018 06:45 Into Infinity wrote:

had no idea what cyborg's gameplan was.



Cyborg's technique has always been a mess, she fights just like her husband, with reckless abandon, chin mid-air wild swings but she is so absurdly powerful and well rounded that she just tramples the competition.


I think she chose the wrong approach given the sick cardio she displayed against Holm she could have been more cautious and dirty box amanda for the first rounds and then go hard later... I suppouse fighters like her just find it hard not to just go all out against another brawler, theres more in the line than just the win.

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whammbot   Belarus. Dec 30 2018 12:25. Posts 517



Jones only loses in HW imo, too physically gifted and mentally above everyone else in LHW. DC without the weight cutting at HW would still interest me. Alex went full hypeman and kinda lied about being aggressive in the fight lol - he's the Cerrone of the LHW


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Dec 30 2018 13:41. Posts 9634

Jones didn't seem to manhandle Gustafsson, so he didn't feel much stronger in terms of pure strength, thus I kinda doubt he was juiced up. As I said though, Jones will crush him. I don't know if it's him that analyzes other fighters or it's his team, but the way he adapts is just insane. They are top-tier professional athletes and he just completely destroys them in pure technical skills. Doesn't matter if Jones was juiced up vs DC, his technique was light years ahead, DC looked clueless and juicing won't help you with that - same thing happened to Gustafsson ... what the fuck was the god thing in the post fight interview though lmao, was he ever religious?


I wanna see Jones vs DC for HW title, pretty sure Jones will crush his soul again but would be more interested in a followup - Jones vs Miocic - that would be the best fight in the UFC right now imo.


Cyborg kind of lost the fight on her own imo, you can't do what she did vs Nunes in the beginning of the fight. She has superior range and her punches obv knock chicks out, chances are you're gonna get caught on the way back and be in a shitty spot.

I feel like Volkanovski vs Mendes was FOTN

edit: nvm it is

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whammbot   Belarus. Dec 30 2018 14:07. Posts 517

Jones can go aggro with his physical gifts and power but chooses to fuck opponents over by them outplaying themselves. They know they can't fight outside the pocket with that dhalsim ass reach so they dont have a choice but to chase and eat shots while Jon backpedals from round 1 to 3. It's somewhat unfair he chooses to do this but he's a really clever fighter for having the control of not overcommitting to anything until its time to do so. He usually turns it up in round 3 4 and i usually see him chasing down guys if he feels his opponents are weakend by all those oblique kicks and straights. Guy is a sociopath who loves inflicting pain that's for sure, he seems to legitimately enjoy dishing out punishment


lucky331   . Dec 30 2018 17:02. Posts 1124

jones could have done a choke when he had gustaffson's back. but decided to bang the swedish mauler's head on the canvass.


lucky331   . Dec 30 2018 19:23. Posts 1124


  On December 30 2018 06:55 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +



Cyborg's technique has always been a mess, she fights just like her husband, with reckless abandon, chin mid-air wild swings but she is so absurdly powerful and well rounded that she just tramples the competition.


I think she chose the wrong approach given the sick cardio she displayed against Holm she could have been more cautious and dirty box amanda for the first rounds and then go hard later... I suppouse fighters like her just find it hard not to just go all out against another brawler, theres more in the line than just the win.


she has a husband?


Baalim   Mexico. Dec 31 2018 02:34. Posts 34246

Evangelista Cyborg... (ex husband)

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