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drone666   Brasil. Apr 26 2019 01:25. Posts 1821

well, you fell in the trap of this bullet gay coffee that all the hipsters do, did you also grow a man bun and did yoga in the morning while greeting the sun ?
thats probably the issue

Dont listen to anything I say 

RiKD    United States. Apr 26 2019 02:35. Posts 8522

I've never had a man bun. I was doing BJJ, going to the gun range, and going on long fasted hikes. I was never a fan of Dave Asprey. I was a fan of Tait Fletcher though. Doing yoga in the morning while greeting the sun sounds lovely. That wasn't why I felt like shit and had dangerous levels of cholesterol in my body. Believe me there is a lot to primal living that I am a big fan of but they don't get the diet right unless you are literally celiac.


iakim322   United States. Apr 26 2019 23:05. Posts 1335


  On April 26 2019 00:25 drone666 wrote:
well, you fell in the trap of this bullet gay coffee that all the hipsters do, did you also grow a man bun and did yoga in the morning while greeting the sun ?
thats probably the issue



You have an odd, selective hatred of new age health stuff. Fixated on anything that doesn't seem masculine to you? Yeah there's been a lot of ignorant bullshit that's come up. But I mean, you do a keto diet and intermittent fasting...yet you shit on bulletproof coffee? Know what a nickname for bulletproof coffee is? Keto coffee. The age of shitting on yoga has also long passed as even some top flight athletes routinely make it apart of their program


drone666   Brasil. Apr 27 2019 12:44. Posts 1821

???
well, did I say that all the new age stuff doesn't work ? what this has to do with masculinity ?

you can be reasonable, do some research and filter what works, whats the problem with this ?
the problem is that most people read tim ferris book or other dorks and blindly follow their advices of these fake doctors distorting studies to sell their miracle recipe, like if nutrition was simple and all the answers are out there already, without looking for the sources of their claims

there's lots of people in my social circle going completely insane with this new age crap, dude's changing all the light bulbs in his place because artificial light kills you, he reads every bottle of water to check the chloride levels, only eat organic vegetables, grass fed beef and free range eggs, and everything else you can imagine

if you read SERIOUS studies about these you will realise that it's mostly all bullshit

and I never said yoga is bad, I think it's amazing, but if you drink bulletproof coffee, take cold showers, have a man bun and greets the sun, you are probably doing it wrong

Dont listen to anything I say 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 27 2019 21:49. Posts 9634

I'm looking to get back into the gym but actually focus on my core as a start e.g. first improve muscles that cause me to slouch and then focus on actual weights, anyone got ideas?


Obannon112   Finland. Apr 28 2019 09:36. Posts 43


  On April 25 2019 07:56 drone666 wrote:
no need to be on point and usually is not GTO to try a perfect diet, it becomes very difficult to keep going, you end giving up in middle and going back to ice cream and burgers

so a more flexible diet is usually GTO because is easier to stick to

and in general if you are not a fitness model trying to get under 8% BF or a bodybuilder, you def dont need to be very strict, consistency, and self evaluation ( dont know if this is the term lol ) to see if you are getting results and how you body is reacting are the most important things

this is a 8 month transformation and tbh I didnt even go hardcore, I did Ketogenic diet and intermittent fasting for about 3 months and doing again now, but I was cheating on the diet every 2-3 weeks, supposed to go 5 days a week to gym but probably averaged 4.5

fwiw I have very bad genetics to be lean, I always been somewhat fat and had never seen my abs before

went from 82kg to 68kg at my leanest but my face looked like a zombie, now im clean bulking slowly

+ Show Spoiler +



it was pretty easy to eat in a caloric deficit with Keto ( high fat and very low carbs ) I always felt full after my 2 meals and didn't have much cravings, whenever I go back to eating a normal diet is hell to not overeat because carbs are sooo easy to eat




Is the after pic 10%?


k4ir0s2   Canada. Apr 28 2019 18:41. Posts 16


  On April 27 2019 20:49 Spitfiree wrote:
I'm looking to get back into the gym but actually focus on my core as a start e.g. first improve muscles that cause me to slouch and then focus on actual weights, anyone got ideas?



exercises that I found that improve posture: farmer's walk, pull ups, high face pulls ( )


and yoga of course

 Last edit: 28/04/2019 18:42

k4ir0s2   Canada. Apr 28 2019 18:45. Posts 16


  On April 25 2019 07:56 drone666 wrote:
no need to be on point and usually is not GTO to try a perfect diet, it becomes very difficult to keep going, you end giving up in middle and going back to ice cream and burgers

so a more flexible diet is usually GTO because is easier to stick to

and in general if you are not a fitness model trying to get under 8% BF or a bodybuilder, you def dont need to be very strict, consistency, and self evaluation ( dont know if this is the term lol ) to see if you are getting results and how you body is reacting are the most important things

this is a 8 month transformation and tbh I didnt even go hardcore, I did Ketogenic diet and intermittent fasting for about 3 months and doing again now, but I was cheating on the diet every 2-3 weeks, supposed to go 5 days a week to gym but probably averaged 4.5

fwiw I have very bad genetics to be lean, I always been somewhat fat and had never seen my abs before

went from 82kg to 68kg at my leanest but my face looked like a zombie, now im clean bulking slowly

+ Show Spoiler +



it was pretty easy to eat in a caloric deficit with Keto ( high fat and very low carbs ) I always felt full after my 2 meals and didn't have much cravings, whenever I go back to eating a normal diet is hell to not overeat because carbs are sooo easy to eat




Nice transformation. I've been going at it pretty hard (about 4.5 times a week) for about 8 months too, but not as good of a transformation.. hmm I think I'm not eating enough protein. I like the idea of focusing on protein goal then eating whatever. will try


drone666   Brasil. Apr 28 2019 23:06. Posts 1821


  On April 27 2019 20:49 Spitfiree wrote:
I'm looking to get back into the gym but actually focus on my core as a start e.g. first improve muscles that cause me to slouch and then focus on actual weights, anyone got ideas?



depends on your exact postural issues, you said slouching so you probably has upper cross syndrome, which is tight pecs, weak middle back, tight traps and back of the neck, and weak front neck, which causes you to have forward head posture and kyphotic thoracic spine, rounded shoulders are also very common in this case

you would have to stretch tight muscles and strengthen the weak ones, also is very important is to be aware of your posture throughout the day and change your habits

check Jeremy Ethier channel on youtube, he has some good videos on how to improve posture, also athlean x for some variations

Dont listen to anything I say 

RiKD    United States. Apr 29 2019 01:17. Posts 8522

Basically, what drone and k4ir0s said. Strengthen rear delts, teres major, minor, rhomboids, lats, etc. Stretch chest for sure and that also carries over to biceps, hamstrings, calves, etc. Drone doesn't want to admit it but yoga will have positive effect.

I think lifestyle matters the most. I saw a picture of me recently and it was not flattering posture wise but pictures of me when I was 28 and killing it in business I had really great posture, always took up a lot of space, I was confident. I wasn't playing poker everyday. I was walking around steel mills with a fair amount of manual labor, grabbing, pulling, farmers walks, kicking ass basically. If I am kicking ass in the mill (most profitable account in NAFTA) and I am dating successfully it is all a certain synergy. We need this synergy for good posture IMO. I am trying to figure out a way to turn my current situation around which is me just mostly restless and anxious all day. Back then before it went to shit I was a Viking battling for Alpha Male status in a flow state most of the day and then cumming all over a woman's beautiful breasts and yellowing "FREEDOM!!!" and crashing in my King sized bed sprawled out getting deep sleep for maybe 4-6 hours and then doing it all again. Now, I do nothing all day, constantly worry about social anxiety and anxiety in general, get no vagina whatsoever, cum into a t-shirt while watching porn, crawl into bed and sleep 10-12 hours in the fetal position.


drone666   Brasil. Apr 29 2019 03:35. Posts 1821


  On April 27 2019 11:44 drone666 wrote:

and I never said yoga is bad, I think it's amazing

Dont listen to anything I say 

iakim322   United States. Apr 29 2019 20:23. Posts 1335


  On April 28 2019 22:06 drone666 wrote:
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depends on your exact postural issues, you said slouching so you probably has upper cross syndrome, which is tight pecs, weak middle back, tight traps and back of the neck, and weak front neck, which causes you to have forward head posture and kyphotic thoracic spine, rounded shoulders are also very common in this case

you would have to stretch tight muscles and strengthen the weak ones, also is very important is to be aware of your posture throughout the day and change your habits

check Jeremy Ethier channel on youtube, he has some good videos on how to improve posture, also athlean x for some variations



+1 for the Athlean x. Some woman's youtube videos, www.redefiningstrength.com, + Athlean X were what I looked at when I was trying to build proper posture, core, fix random pain


iakim322   United States. Apr 29 2019 20:25. Posts 1335


  On April 29 2019 02:35 drone666 wrote:
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You should prob re-read your one line post of calling bulletproof coffee gay (yes I know. the marketing for it is dumb, for dumb people) and randomly mentioning man buns/greeting the sun while doing yoga out of nowhere

I'm not one of those people who can just not eat when I get up. So either I have breakfast...or if I'm busy or lazy (+ don't have groceries on hand)...pretty much do what 'bulletproof coffee' is. I throw in grass fed butter into my black coffee before eating an early lunch a few hours later. Eat a generally balanced diet rest of the day with minimal sugar as the only real strict thing. I eat out for lunch pretty much every day but it's generally meat/rice/veggie in the form of a kabob place etc. I do the coffee thing maybe 2-3 days out of the week. Works fine for me

- forgot. Been recently adding a little protein to that coffee in the form of collagen powder. We can also shit on this too if you'd like. Oh and yea, I realize collagen isn't a complete protein

 Last edit: 29/04/2019 20:59

drone666   Brasil. Apr 30 2019 02:01. Posts 1821

what I really meant was that because he was taking bulletproof coffee he was probably following all the new age hipster guidelines without doing any research, so he probably had a man bun and was doing yoga while greeting the sun
which means that if you doing all this you are not really into yoga, you are more into been a hipster

the first thing that you do when you have high cholesterol is to cut your saturated fat intake, which bulletproof coffee is filled with, he should cut bulletproof coffee and add some avocado, almonds or salmon for example
so I said that there was the problem with his diet, instead of researching he assumed that all keto have high cholesterol

Dont listen to anything I sayLast edit: 30/04/2019 02:15

RiKD    United States. Apr 30 2019 02:49. Posts 8522

I did my research. I went on a vegan diet for 6 months and my cholesterol and weight were good.


RiKD    United States. Apr 30 2019 03:03. Posts 8522

I may or may not be a hipster but I didn't have a man bun and I wasn't greeting the sun with yoga although the ladder sounds awesome. I read "The Paleo Solution" and "The Primal Blueprint" and listened to Tait Fletcher's podcast and JRE. It's mostly documented in the Truth Discussion Thread on LP. High cholesterol is a genetic thing for me so I am only going to have naturally low cholesterol if I am on whole food plant based diet (vegan diet). I respond very well to statins though so I can go on statins and basically eat whatever I like. I would be on a vegan diet and most importantly I think that is the right thing to do but I guess the best answer is that I am weak or that I can't overcome my food addictions. Living in the South in one of the best culinary cities in the USA it's like I can't bear to go with out fried golden deliciousness, seafood, cheese, ice cream, butter, et al. Like do I really care if we are exploiting crabs or shrimp???? I don't know. I rarely if ever eat red meat and I don't even think about that one. It's everything else that gets me. Oh, I also rather eat chicken than tofu.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 01 2019 01:40. Posts 9634


  On April 28 2019 22:06 drone666 wrote:
Show nested quote +



depends on your exact postural issues, you said slouching so you probably has upper cross syndrome, which is tight pecs, weak middle back, tight traps and back of the neck, and weak front neck, which causes you to have forward head posture and kyphotic thoracic spine, rounded shoulders are also very common in this case

you would have to stretch tight muscles and strengthen the weak ones, also is very important is to be aware of your posture throughout the day and change your habits

check Jeremy Ethier channel on youtube, he has some good videos on how to improve posture, also athlean x for some variations


thats a pretty good description of what I have, its kinda frightening but then again I guess many of us do have the same thing due to the constant sitting in front of PC

I obviously try to change habits but its hard to think about that 24/7 and actually focus on my job. Was thinking of buying some sensor you attach to your back that gives you vibrations once you start to slouch but not sure how effective that is and if it actually works correctly. Plus my sleeping positions are super fucked up and can't seem to change them even if I push myself(used to sleeping on stomach, tried to push myself to sleep on back/side it just doesnt work - even bought a semi-hard mattress for that) so thats not helpful either

I've previously seen Athlean X's videos on that, they give pretty good insight, I'm just worried that if i start putting pressure on my body before fixing weak core muscles would be actually bad for me

 Last edit: 01/05/2019 01:43

VanDerMeyde   Norway. May 19 2019 22:34. Posts 5108

The only thing that really worked for me in the long run: (for health and keeping weight down). Now I also swim 1000 meter per dag which is nice

:DLast edit: 19/05/2019 22:36

VanDerMeyde   Norway. May 25 2019 15:40. Posts 5108

What u guys tink about this ?

I have to say I really like it so far:

:D 

k4ir0s   Canada. Jun 11 2019 03:33. Posts 3476

^ Feel conflicted about Firas' opinion on exercising at a lower intensity to increase volume of workouts -> which increase muscle built

compared to the more popular point of view where: intensity > volume as shown here:




I read another captivating argument against intensity here: https://www.quora.com/Should-I-lift-s...bigger-weights-for-a-shorter-duration (Christopher Finch's post).


Not sure what I believe is best. I just up at the gym when I can.

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -OlyLast edit: 11/06/2019 03:36

 
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