I just joined a gym now what? - Page 12

I'm not 5'3" doesn't take that much do have these ready to wear shit to be not tailored for you.

I'm not looking to party with women anywhere near my size. Im like 147 right now. I have a very specific range of woman I like. I don't mind a woman in the taller side but in this instance she has to be very slender kind of like a model type but I don't like women that look like volleyball players. Heaviest id go for is 120lbs

I don't mind being 200 lbs. with some muscle. I don't mind being 220 and pretty buffed up but 250 lbs. and soft is pretty bad. I would say with all my experience I should know what to do but I do not. Walking and trying to eat less is not really working and hasn't worked for a year now? I think I carry anger with me as well as anxiety that lifting weights would be good for. My sister says I should train for mental health above all. It is difficult to navigate all of the options. I don't want to come out training like some navy seal and over train by month 2. It has got to be something that I want to come back to.

Btw, you are fucking crazy for limiting your women to 120 lbs. That is why it is important to get a bit yolked up and have some stature and some presence. It is also acceptable to wear boots or shoes with a (normal) heel.

In all fairness, I guess it doesn't really matter. You will get down to like 140 and hopefully see some visible abs. 120 lbs. is kind of an absurd limit but in a way it might all work out. I always thought you could just get like a Hugo Boss X-Small and it would fit ok. I always thought designer didn't fit the swole. When I was 165 lbs. most designers draped on me like a dream. I could have been on the runway instead of suffering staring at a screen and clicking buttons. Then, when I was a pumped up 230 lbs. I looked flat out silly in a tailored suit.

I don't know mane. Do what you want but don't expect people on here to be ok with your plan of cutting indefinitely at 147 lbs and limiting your coupling to 120 lb. (or less) women. You also need to find your Purple Cow factor. Like, why are you remarkable? What makes you great? Ideally, it is something a women can see from a distance or pick up on very fast.

Jean-Michel Basquiaut was probably showing up to the club in paint stained Armani suits part Autist and fucking Madonnas in their prime every night. Of course, he's Jean-Michel Basquiaut.

I've talked about my friend who just put $1 million in a USA bank account and would go on Prada binges but it's not that applicable but he was a bit of a beautiful maniac. His body was like Roger Federer and had model looks with interesting curly hair. There was nothing he couldn't do when a bit liquored up and ready to go. Mostly wild spontaneous brilliant dancing and intense eye contact and he would always fish up some doe eyed beauty.

But, all of that does not really matter. You just have to be the Purple Cow for your market. Again, insane to limit it to less than 121 lbs. but find that market and go with it. Who knows what will happen?

I was always amazed at the women that would go for me when I was at the brink of a drinking problem (or past it) but they didn't see it (I didn't see it). I was just a lot of fun, honest, and different. The results are a lot better than like sweating through shirts, downing drinks all scared, nervous, and timid which is where I was when I started dating.

I realize you are perhaps wise to be leery of my suggestion to go to 3 venues a week to drink and socialize. I was doing 5+ venues per week. I still don't think that is why I ended up an alcoholic. It is more complicated than that. But, this is a gym thread so I digress. I will say that if you drink red wine and cognac it won't have as much of an effect on the physique.

There is something to be said for a women unbuttoning your clothes in a club and running her hands on your body because you are in good shape. There is something to be said for a women unbuttoning your clothes in a club and running her hands on your body because she is on coke and just saw you hand the cocktail waitress $4,444 in hundos for bottle service.

Always have good champagne and white wine in the fridge and Patron on hand at the spot. Good weed even better.

I once told a women we should go back to the spot and watch tv. She pretended she didn't hear and came with me anyways. After a legendary let's fuck kiss before the bedroom I lead her there and sit on the bed and pick up the remote control. She is like, "What the fuck are you doing?" and hits the remote control to the floor and pushes me down on the bed and straddles me and kisses me. That was hot. But, have a non-lame reason to go back to your spot.

I am sorry guys. I can't sleep so I am basically just listening to good music and pseudo-botting at this point.

...The plan has and always has been to get down to an ok bodyfat% and start doing a lean bulk to 165...this was discussed from the onset with my coach but somewhere along this thread the dumb loco just derailed the whole thing and started making wild assumptions.

On November 01 2021 03:03 RiKD wrote: Btw, you are fucking crazy for limiting your women to 120 lbs. That is why it is important to get a bit yolked up and have some stature and some presence. It is also acceptable to wear boots or shoes with a (normal) heel.

I don't think I'm crazy at all. Alot of guys are into some weird shit like double Ds , fake tits. Big ass, etc. Im sorry guys ki Kardashian is just overweight. Rihanna at some point looked like a fucking whale. Katy Perry needs to lose some weight and was never hot in my book.

If you google xyz nfl QB 's wife they will generally all have the same look....max 120 lbs classic beauty no trashy tattoos. Unless they are black qbs like Lamar Jackson or some shit lol black dudes have a different taste in women for sure. I always say my ideal wingman is a black dude cause we'd never fight for the same girl LOL.

On November 01 2021 04:00 RiKD wrote: I realize you are perhaps wise to be leery of my suggestion to go to 3 venues a week to drink and socialize. I was doing 5+ venues per week. I still don't think that is why I ended up an alcoholic. It is more complicated than that. But, this is a gym thread so I digress. I will say that if you drink red wine and cognac it won't have as much of an effect on the physique.

Yes that is dumb imo. You should have channeled that money and time into more bankroll and skills.

You likely self destructed not only because your alcoholism but because all your eggs for growth were in some sort of sales goal or promotion at work.

Curious how much $$ you were saving per year while at that job?

Also idk why you keep giving me advice. You are the dumb degenerate not me. If I wanted to learn how to rack up $10k bills at mental ward ill contact you.

On November 01 2021 10:13 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2021 03:03 RiKD wrote: Btw, you are fucking crazy for limiting your women to 120 lbs. That is why it is important to get a bit yolked up and have some stature and some presence. It is also acceptable to wear boots or shoes with a (normal) heel. I don't think I'm crazy at all. Alot of guys are into some weird shit like double Ds , fake tits. Big ass, etc. Im sorry guys ki Kardashian is just overweight. Rihanna at some point looked like a fucking whale. Katy Perry needs to lose some weight and was never hot in my book. If you google xyz nfl QB 's wife they will generally all have the same look....max 120 lbs classic beauty no trashy tattoos. Unless they are black qbs like Lamar Jackson or some shit lol black dudes have a different taste in women for sure. I always say my ideal wingman is a black dude cause we'd never fight for the same girl LOL.

You are not an NFL quarterback though?

I mean it is not impossible I just don't get where you are going to meet Hot Babe 10+s?

On November 01 2021 10:25 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2021 04:00 RiKD wrote: I realize you are perhaps wise to be leery of my suggestion to go to 3 venues a week to drink and socialize. I was doing 5+ venues per week. I still don't think that is why I ended up an alcoholic. It is more complicated than that. But, this is a gym thread so I digress. I will say that if you drink red wine and cognac it won't have as much of an effect on the physique. Yes that is dumb imo. You should have channeled that money and time into more bankroll and skills. You likely self destructed not only because your alcoholism but because all your eggs for growth were in some sort of sales goal or promotion at work. Curious how much $$ you were saving per year while at that job?

There is a lot of compounding interest to be made in skills by going out a lot + it is fun.

On November 01 2021 12:36 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2021 10:13 hiems wrote:   On November 01 2021 03:03 RiKD wrote: Btw, you are fucking crazy for limiting your women to 120 lbs. That is why it is important to get a bit yolked up and have some stature and some presence. It is also acceptable to wear boots or shoes with a (normal) heel. I don't think I'm crazy at all. Alot of guys are into some weird shit like double Ds , fake tits. Big ass, etc. Im sorry guys ki Kardashian is just overweight. Rihanna at some point looked like a fucking whale. Katy Perry needs to lose some weight and was never hot in my book. If you google xyz nfl QB 's wife they will generally all have the same look....max 120 lbs classic beauty no trashy tattoos. Unless they are black qbs like Lamar Jackson or some shit lol black dudes have a different taste in women for sure. I always say my ideal wingman is a black dude cause we'd never fight for the same girl LOL. You are not an NFL quarterback though? I mean it is not impossible I just don't get where you are going to meet Hot Babe 10+s?

Yes but the point is you can be a bigger dude like Ben Roethlisberger or whatever but still around that size women is ideal.

If I gained muscle and weighed 170lb I'd still be only attracted to women that size. I don't understand guys that date fat chicks because thats all they can pull. Those guys are just losers imo. There's plenty of guys like Loco that claim to pull women and stuff like that and claim they are babes but the reality is they have very low standards.

On November 01 2021 03:03 RiKD wrote: Btw, you are fucking crazy for limiting your women to 120 lbs. That is why it is important to get a bit yolked up and have some stature and some presence. It is also acceptable to wear boots or shoes with a (normal) heel.

why? up to 130lbs range is where the majority would fall under if they are healthy and caring for themselves

sometimes there are exclusions from the rules like chicks with insanely huge tits that probably weigh more but it's not cause they're not fit but because their tits are simply huge

or women that are like 1.90cm ( 6" 2 in retard units) due to peer physique

I give suggestions because I do not sleep great + I have partied with a lot of Hot Babes which you said is what you wanted to do. At some point you are going to have to leave the house and spend some money. You are trying to sleep with Hot Babe 10s with out leaving the house or spending any money. Unless you are Drake or Justin Bieber that is an impossible task.

I've never claimed those things and all of my girlfriends have been pretty skinny/small breasted. That's always been my thing.

imo the lowest standards of all is only having relationships with prostitutes though

On November 01 2021 12:54 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2021 03:03 RiKD wrote: Btw, you are fucking crazy for limiting your women to 120 lbs. That is why it is important to get a bit yolked up and have some stature and some presence. It is also acceptable to wear boots or shoes with a (normal) heel. why? up to 130lbs range is where the majority would fall under if they are healthy and caring for themselves sometimes there are exclusions from the rules like chicks with insanely huge tits that probably weigh more but it's not cause they're not fit but because their tits are simply huge or women that are like 1.90cm ( 6" 2 in retard units) due to peer physique

Amazing spitfiree almost breaking free from the alwayswrong style.

Except he calls 6'2" retard units when he casually says 130lbs a few sentences before

On November 01 2021 13:03 Loco wrote: I've never claimed those things and all of my girlfriends have been pretty skinny/small breasted. That's always been my thing. imo the lowest standards of all is only having relationships with prostitutes though

Lol well you think that because you are operating at a very low level. The first time I interacted with you, u were in some sort of platonic relationship with ur "life partner" or some shit lol. Im not going to nit pick about stuff like purple hair or nose rings or tattoos or whatever i just have trouble believing you are attracting attractive women.

I congratulate u though on not being afflicted by the crazy brain some dudes have with the double ds and platinum hair or whatever.

On November 01 2021 13:02 RiKD wrote: I give suggestions because I do not sleep great + I have partied with a lot of Hot Babes which you said is what you wanted to do. At some point you are going to have to leave the house and spend some money. You are trying to sleep with Hot Babe 10s with out leaving the house or spending any money. Unless you are Drake or Justin Bieber that is an impossible task.

Look I'm not sure why you keep making xyz assumptions about me or that I am some static person that is never evolving. I am operating at a higher level than you right now.

Also that's why they call me the KING of budget spending, K1ng of eff1c1encY, mast3r of t1me m4n4g3m3nt, etc etc.

On November 01 2021 01:05 RiKD wrote: The title of the thread is "I just joined a gym now what?" You wouldn't believe all the threads on t-nation that would emerge of some like 160 lb guy starving himself to look like Tyler Durden. Then, you would get some Dave Tate like charachter... Anyways, you would get a Dave Tate character come in and say something like "I'VE HAD SHITS BIGGER THAN YOU!! WHY NOT LIFT SOME WEIGHTS AND EAT SOME FOOD!!!" and then most people would pile on until that guy left or sometimes they would listen.

Tyler Durden was actually somewhat muscular. Hiems looks like he benches 100 lbs. And he's on a 500 calorie deficit cut. It's ludicrous.

I'm not the "Dave Tate character", I'm not the guy going around telling people to drink gallons of milk and do some insane shit to be swole. I just don't like bullshit. Yo-yo dieting and inefficient workouts are bullshit. Newbies can recomp; they will be stronger and look better than not doing so, and that's just a fact. If you want to speed up fat loss you should do some fasting for a while before you start a gym routine imo, or do intermittent fasting but still get your calories in. I'm also not trying to be an ultramarathon guy wtf, though I do find there are things about their mentality that can be useful to any human being trying to improve themselves.

It's a fun coincidence that this thread was bumped and you are bringing up the Greyskull LP because I was about to start the program again starting today. I've been meaning to get back at it for a couple months but I couldn't due to life stuff getting in the way and not having access to a gym 2 to 3 days a week. I only had access to the gym once a week at best.

Greyskull is a very flexible system that can suit any novice goal, not just getting big. I've chosen the Mass Gain/Strength and Hypertrophy focus variant and I'll be adding some extra exercises to the basic template. For people who want to be in and out the gym quickly the basic template is good enough, but it's not for me.

Right now my program looks like this. It's what I was already doing in the gym exercise-wise, just not on a 3x week basis. First week:

Monday:
AM: Fasted walking 20-30 mins or light jogging 10-15 mins.
Throughout the day: frequency method push-ups, pull-ups and chin ups (6 sets of chin ups and pull-ups, 5 sets of push-ups, adding one set or one rep per week - adjusting reps to be 70-80% of max effort per set - should not be hard)
PM: Weight training with Workout A:
1. Overhead press 2x5, 1x5+ (+ means as many reps as possible, always on the last set)
2. Weighted chin-ups, 2x 6-8
3. Squats 2x5, 1x5+
4. V-grip cable rows or Seated T-Bar rows, 2x10-12
5. Barbell or dumbbell curls, 2x12
6. Overhead triceps extension 2x15
7. Bicycle crunches
8. Running on treadmill 20-30 mins (4 and 5 HR zone).

Tuesday:
AM: Fasted walking 20-30 mins or light jogging 10-15 mins.
Throughout the day: frequency method push-ups, pull-ups and chin ups
Neck extensions 4 sets

Wednesday:
Throughout the day: frequency method pull-ups, push-ups and chin ups
PM: Weight training with Workout B:
1. Close-grip(-ish) bench press, 2x5, 1x5+
2. Some row variant 2x5, 1x5+ (Pendlays or bent-over)
3. Deadlifts, 1x5, 1x5+ (this is going to be an experiment, the base program only includes one amrap set, but I think I can do one normal set on top)
4. Lat Pulldown, 2x10-12
5. EZ-bar bicep curls 2x10-15
6. Overhead triceps extension
7. Run on treadmill, 20-30 mins (4-5 HR zone)

Thursday:
AM: Fasted walking 20-30 mins or light jogging 10-15 mins.
Throughout the day: frequency method push-ups and chin ups
Neck extensions 4 sets

Friday:
Throughout the day: frequency method push-ups, pull-ups and chin-ups
PM: Weight training: Workout A again.

Saturday:
Frequency method push-ups, pull-ups and chin-ups
Running or cycling outside

Sunday off

I'll be alternating workout A and B every time I go to the gym so that I deadlift as much as squatting. (ABA week 1, BAB week 2, repeat). For the main lifts, I'll be adding +2.5 lbs for upper body and +5 lbs for lower body exercises per workout. I'm moving neck extensions in case it makes me dizzy to non-weight training days. I don't want to be in the gym when that happens, and there's already a lot of volume on those days. I'll be adding in some stretching but I haven't decided on the exact routine yet. My nutrition is going to be basic maintenance or slight surplus, I don't plan on calculating anything. We'll see if I can compete with hiems' transformation.