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whamm!   Albania. Mar 22 2017 11:13. Posts 11625

All courtesy of Teamliquid.net and it's crazy BW fanatics who keep up with the game 24/7




  On March 22 2017 00:52 tractatoss wrote:
For those who want to know notable players signed up for ASL S3, here is the list:
*Players within the brackets are seeded.

Terran (FlaSh, Sea)
NaDa, Last, sSak, Mind, Organ, Mong, sKyHigh, Light, Rush, firebathero, Berserker, Sharp, ClouD, Leta

Zerg (Jaedong)
effort, herO, SoulKey, Larva, Terror, where, Dream.t)HyuN, Shine, mGw)Hyuk,

Protoss (Best)
Bisu, Stork, Shuttle, PuSan[S.G], Tyson, Horang2, hssky, Noble, pretty, Rain, Lazy, Mini, By.mOvie, By.SnOw, Nal_rA, ZeuS

I will update the list if there will be any more sign ups.




  On March 21 2017 14:58 GTR wrote:
All taken from http://starleague.kr/

Date : 2017/04/01 and 2017/04/02 (Seoul and Busan)
Tournament Dates: 2017/04/11 to 2017/06/03, every Sunday and Tuesday at 19:00 KST

Seoul Qualifier Location: AfreecaTV PC Bang (Hongdae Branch)
Floor 4, 362-5 Seogyo-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul (NB1 Club Building)

Busan Qualifier Location: AfreecaTV PC Bang (Seomyeon Branch)
Floor 4, 168-448 Bujeon-dong, Busanjin-gu, Busan (ZARA Building)

Total Qualifiers: 24 (12 from each qualifier)

Map Pool: Circuit Breaker, Outsider SE, Blue Storm

Format of tournament remains the same as last season (Ro24 + Ro16 Dual tournament format into Ro8 single elimination).




RO8 ppl from ASL2 are insta-seeded. Prize pool (excluding crowdfunded bonuses if any)
1st 20m KRW
2nd 5m KRW
3rd 3m KRW
4th 2m KRW


5th-8th 500,000 KRW
9th-16th 300,000 KRW
17th-28th 150,000 KRW


Bigger prizes, Nal_Ra, NaDa and Firebathero playing the qualifiers means this will be even bigger and hopefully one of the old timers make it through (highly unlikely lol). Everything ASL 3 related will be updated in this thread so keep an eye if this pops up on top.

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lucky331   . Mar 22 2017 16:03. Posts 1124

aaaaaw yeeeaaah!


whamm!   Albania. Apr 03 2017 14:24. Posts 11625


lucky331   . Apr 05 2017 14:40. Posts 1124

no jaedong?


traxamillion   United States. Apr 05 2017 16:07. Posts 10468

Jaedong flash sea best (top 4 last tourney) get automatic berths into I believe the ro16

 Last edit: 05/04/2017 16:07

lucky331   . Apr 06 2017 02:16. Posts 1124


whamm!   Albania. Apr 09 2017 14:49. Posts 11625

april 11 folks


lucky331   . Apr 10 2017 06:24. Posts 1124

odds are up.

Shuttle 1.381
PURPOSE 3.090


Soulkey 1.476
Mong 2.700


Effort 1.666
Snow 2.230


free 1.400
Shine 3.000

https://www.pinnacle.com/en/odds/matc...starcraft-broodwar-afreeca-starleague

any advice who among these have some value? no idea who these guys are.

 Last edit: 10/04/2017 06:25

whamm!   Albania. Apr 11 2017 07:08. Posts 11625

Four hours from now this shit starts

Shuttle(P) vs Purpose(Z)

Mong(T) vs Soulkey(Z)

 Last edit: 11/04/2017 07:11

whamm!   Albania. Apr 11 2017 11:03. Posts 11625

Live


whamm!   Albania. Apr 12 2017 10:32. Posts 11625

Effort vs Snow
Shine vs Free

30mins


whamm!   Albania. Apr 12 2017 11:05. Posts 11625


longple    Sweden. Apr 12 2017 13:32. Posts 4472

Thanks whamm! (!)


Liquid`Drone   Norway. Apr 12 2017 23:18. Posts 3093

amazing final game. brood war is the greatest.

lol POKER 

traxamillion   United States. Apr 15 2017 18:52. Posts 10468

Mong at 2.7 on Camelot was great value. Also liked bets on shuttle v purpose (also Camelot. Bad zerg map), and effort


whamm!   Albania. Apr 16 2017 02:52. Posts 11625

later tonight again around 6 or 7 KST

3 protosses 1 T zzzzzz

Bisu vs Mini
Jaehoon vs Light(T)

 Last edit: 16/04/2017 05:10

whamm!   Albania. Apr 16 2017 11:25. Posts 11625


PoorUser    United States. Apr 16 2017 14:41. Posts 7471

^good night of bw

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NMcNasty    United States. Apr 16 2017 21:44. Posts 2039

Yeah ggs, actually enjoyed the pvps.

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ggplz   Sweden. Apr 16 2017 21:52. Posts 16784

ggs, looking forward to the rest of this

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spets1   Australia. Apr 17 2017 09:19. Posts 2179

sweeet

hola 

blackjacki2   United States. Apr 18 2017 08:52. Posts 2581

Looks like we are going to have a real good distribution of races for the Round of 16. So far we have:

4 zerg
3 terran
4 protoss

With 5 spots left. Already that's looking to be better than last season when we only had 2 zerg in the round of 16. We just need at least 1 more T and 1 more Z to keep it from being Protoss heavy like the round of 24


whamm!   Albania. Apr 18 2017 11:07. Posts 11625

(Z)herO vs (P)Lazy

(P)Rain vs (T)sSak


ClouD87   Italy. Apr 18 2017 19:15. Posts 524

Is it just me or having outsider in the map pool feels incredibly unfair towards protoss

 Last edit: 18/04/2017 19:15

Liquid`Drone   Norway. Apr 18 2017 19:47. Posts 3093

protoss is 25-26 on outsider in pro games. terran is the disadvantaged race.

lol POKER 

Liquid`Drone   Norway. Apr 18 2017 22:00. Posts 3093

fuck, sorry, looked at wrong stats. Outsider is indeed quite bad pvz - 39% winrate.

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ClouD87   Italy. Apr 18 2017 23:38. Posts 524

Looking at the games so far it seemed could be even worse than that. I think protoss players can have better results if they just did a standard greedy 1base cors/dt into nat nexus build. It defends well against almost everything and it seems the only build that can guarantee a gas expansion.

 Last edit: 18/04/2017 23:40

Liquid`Drone   Norway. Apr 19 2017 01:36. Posts 3093

39% vs 61% (41-26) really is pretty bad. I just looked at 10 random maps I knew had been played quite a lot (>= outsider), and with the exception of ride of valkyries, where zvp is even worse (47-23), not a single matchup had more than 58% going one way. Honestly it's remarkable how balanced many of them are. Tau Cross is actually 64-64 tvz, 67-67 zvp, and 64-59 pvt.

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whamm!   Albania. Apr 21 2017 16:04. Posts 11625

feels naked for protoss when trying to expo haha


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 21 2017 23:49. Posts 34246

the expo behind gets harassed by lurkers like every single time, that expansion seems require cannons behind the mineral line and a lot of them

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spets1   Australia. Apr 22 2017 06:57. Posts 2179

what about fighting spirit?

hola 

lucky331   . Apr 22 2017 11:47. Posts 1124

yup! cant wait for jaedong at ro16.


lucky331   . Apr 23 2017 09:34. Posts 1124

Larva vs. Movie. Who has the edge?


whamm!   Albania. Apr 24 2017 00:26. Posts 11625

damn i forgot this one lol

 Last edit: 24/04/2017 00:26

whamm!   Albania. Apr 25 2017 09:13. Posts 11625

(T)Last vs (Z)HyuN


(P)Movie vs (Z)Larva



 Last edit: 25/04/2017 09:53

whamm!   Albania. Apr 25 2017 23:25. Posts 11625

Round of 16 Groups!!!



Clearly "Outsider" map grossly favors Z over P which is obvious given how many ZvPs gifted Zergs six spots here. I'm not complaining though, ZvZ is infinitely better than TvT

 Last edit: 25/04/2017 23:27

Liquid`Drone   Norway. Apr 26 2017 00:56. Posts 3093

and tvz is the best matchup, and that we'll get plenty of.

Wonder if bisu makes it, very tough group for him, very entertaining group as well. All 4 can make it, soulkey was awesome in the team tournament and the other 3 have been among the best..
Flash on the other hand looks extremely comfortable. Group D is tough as well. And C is the only one I don't really care about, although it's nice if we can get 2 p's for later stage.

lol POKER 

blackjacki2   United States. Apr 26 2017 14:58. Posts 2581

Wow very disappointed with the groups. We had a great distribution of races for final 16 and we have only 1 group with all 3 races. 2 groups with 3 of 1 race.


whamm!   Albania. Apr 30 2017 08:35. Posts 11625

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blackjacki2   United States. Apr 30 2017 14:27. Posts 2581

no surprises here


whamm!   Albania. May 01 2017 02:38. Posts 11625

Zergs are merely surviving on 2 hatches doing creative lurk/ling/scourge before FlaSh kills the third, they finally get swarm and FlaSh slowly wraps up the game shortly after smh. FlaSh's bio looks so scary six lurkers don't mean shit

 Last edit: 01/05/2017 02:39

spets1   Australia. May 01 2017 04:39. Posts 2179

whens the next groups games?

hola 

Baalim   Mexico. May 01 2017 04:39. Posts 34246

Shine drops to flash were amazing, if he had expanded right while attacking he could have held that 3rd base.

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traxamillion   United States. May 01 2017 10:43. Posts 10468

Jangbi is back. Looking great on stream already


whamm!   Albania. May 02 2017 10:55. Posts 11625

Great lineup today!!! Starting anytime nao!
Bisu - no.1 in afreeca for april 80% winrate vs even flash last etc
Soulkey - unlocking Flash and Terran in general
Effort
Sea

 Last edit: 02/05/2017 11:09

whamm!   Albania. May 02 2017 13:02. Posts 11625

.

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spets1   Australia. May 02 2017 13:23. Posts 2179

ggs

hola 

blackjacki2   United States. May 02 2017 18:06. Posts 2581

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blackjacki2   United States. May 02 2017 19:38. Posts 2581

btw that drone pull at 2:08:45 is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.


Baalim   Mexico. May 04 2017 00:07. Posts 34246

please guys no spoilers just below the video, use the spoiler tags

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whamm!   Albania. May 05 2017 08:32. Posts 11625

damn that multitasking by bisu, i couldn't catch up and I'm just watching lol


CrownRoyal   United States. May 05 2017 14:08. Posts 11385

Have you ever watched bisu in FP?

It's actually hard to enjoy watching because he plays so fast, it's really impressive.

I was watching him play a 3v3 on hunters and he was controlling units perfectly in two different parts of the map while not messing anything up mechanically at home.

WHAT IS THIS 

Baalim   Mexico. May 07 2017 03:14. Posts 34246


  On May 05 2017 13:08 CrownRoyal wrote:
Have you ever watched bisu in FP?

It's actually hard to enjoy watching because he plays so fast, it's really impressive.

I was watching him play a 3v3 on hunters and he was controlling units perfectly in two different parts of the map while not messing anything up mechanically at home.



link

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spets1   Australia. May 07 2017 04:07. Posts 2179

Go to TL and watch the streams bisu it's up there quiet often

hola 

whamm!   Albania. May 07 2017 11:08. Posts 11625


lucky331   . May 07 2017 14:14. Posts 1124

when is jaedong playing? cant wait!


Joe   Czech Republic. May 07 2017 18:09. Posts 5987


  On May 07 2017 13:14 lucky331 wrote:
when is jaedong playing? cant wait!



Tuesday

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

CrownRoyal   United States. May 08 2017 18:16. Posts 11385


  On May 07 2017 02:14 Baalim wrote:
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link


I can't be bothered to find that random 3v3 I watched but this website is pretty godly

http://korhal.info.pl/#/bisu

http://korhal.info.pl/#/korhal for all bw progamer stream replays

WHAT IS THIS 

whamm!   Albania. May 09 2017 06:31. Posts 11625

Jaedong Z vs Ssak T
Last T vs Hero Z


https://www.twitch.tv/gsl

 Last edit: 09/05/2017 12:33

blackjacki2   United States. May 09 2017 11:05. Posts 2581

Stream is live. Let's go Jaedong


spets1   Australia. May 09 2017 17:52. Posts 2179

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holaLast edit: 09/05/2017 17:52

Zografa   Bulgaria. May 09 2017 18:58. Posts 962

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

The fish call, the shark raise. 

PoorUser    United States. May 10 2017 00:21. Posts 7471

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whamm!   Albania. May 10 2017 00:37. Posts 11625

:I


ClouD87   Italy. May 10 2017 05:12. Posts 524


  On May 09 2017 16:52 spets1 wrote:
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All I see is better player won


spets1   Australia. May 10 2017 05:42. Posts 2179


  On May 10 2017 04:12 ClouD87 wrote:
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All I see is better player won


i dunno man, everytime i see top tier TvZ all I see is Z trying to survive unless they win with muta or some other short game. The mech switch just owns Z so hard. They literally cant do anything because tanks and mines destory defilers/lurks/ultras

holaLast edit: 10/05/2017 05:44

ClouD87   Italy. May 10 2017 06:13. Posts 524


  On May 10 2017 04:42 spets1 wrote:
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i dunno man, everytime i see top tier TvZ all I see is Z trying to survive unless they win with muta or some other short game. The mech switch just owns Z so hard. They literally cant do anything because tanks and mines destory defilers/lurks/ultras


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Baalim   Mexico. May 10 2017 06:41. Posts 34246


  On May 09 2017 16:52 spets1 wrote:
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spets1   Australia. May 10 2017 07:59. Posts 2179

re cloud and baal:

Last had more bases than JD which was very worrying. I think it's because T>Z and Z cant expand because T makes it very hard for Z to get 3rd exp and so on. And that map's other gas bases are in the middle and so easy for T to take down so JD didnt even try to exp into there.
But yeah Last is supposed to be the best right now anyway so maybe JD just isnt good enough. It's just that top Z's are having really hard time beating top T's at this stage.

Anyway rooting for Bisu at this moment.

holaLast edit: 10/05/2017 08:00

Baalim   Mexico. May 10 2017 08:55. Posts 34246

T>Z>P>T since the beginning of BW but its a slight adv, I cant think of a way to balance this without screwing the other matchup royaly

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whamm!   Albania. May 10 2017 11:24. Posts 11625

6 bases T vs Z's 4 is lol in BW math. In the highest levels T has really become too OP, Terrans just sucked back in 1.07 that's why they couldn't deal so they nerfed Z's pool and P's Psi storm research cost and damage. Back then people weren't really using mechs this efficiently where at no point will the best Terrans be in any danger of rushing while taking a natural and BBS with SCVs practically kills most P and Z openings

Depot Barracks simcity solves zeal rush already
Terrans don't even wall anymore, and they even expand safely
Players have become so good at glitching workers even five pooling with slow lings will be murked by 60hp scvs in Elite Terrans hands

All I've noticed very recently is that Terrans can safely take a natural every game

 Last edit: 10/05/2017 11:29

NMcNasty    United States. May 10 2017 16:33. Posts 2039

Yeah honestly in JD's two losses it did seem as if Terran was OP. JD didn't really make any egregious mistakes, Terran turreted up liberally (10 turrets in last game!) took center with M&M/vulture, and then just had a huge advantage. It was actually pretty impressive JD could even make an even base ZvT into a game.


ClouD87   Italy. May 10 2017 16:59. Posts 524

It was a typical map control/better army composition and less bases (JD) vs many bases/worse army/no mobility situation(Last). It comes up reasonably often in longer games. It's usually a better and easier to play position for the guy with map control, especially if his army has better mobility. The key to win this situation is to preserve core units (because they produce a snowballing effect when they are in a bigger army vs smaller army situation) and only try to lose the expendable ones.

In the first game JD played really bad after he reached hive tech. There was a point where he could have crushed terran push but he used his defilers worse than a D- guy on iccup would. Other than that I think he played incredibly well but these games are too high level, you can't afford to make gigantic mistakes in key situation and expect to win.

 Last edit: 10/05/2017 17:03

Liquid`Drone   Norway. May 10 2017 18:23. Posts 3093

The last game had a point where it was really close, even after reaching 6 t vs 4 z bases. JD shouldve kept adding lurkers to his army (swarm + 1 lurker halts any terran push), but it's incredibly difficult to keep macroing really precisely and efficiently when so much stuff is going on. Anyway, Last got a big early game advantage, Last is top 2 terrans, and JD still almost managed to come back through a brilliant mid game. And in the game vs Ssak, he just didn't perform at the best of his ability.

Anyway, there is a current t>z imbalance, but it can be fixed through playing other maps. 3 player maps inherently disfavor terran (for example if you look at tau cross, which is the most balanced map ever stats wise,
the way that map is designed allows zerg to get to 5 bases with only 3 total ground entry points. That makes vultures way less effective, and it makes swarm+lurker defense way stronger. They can also reduce the buildable terrain, especially behind natural minerals, to make muta harass more effective. I expect some changes to future map pools to factor in that terrans seem to dominate zergs on maps where it's possible to split it in half.

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ggplz   Sweden. May 10 2017 22:20. Posts 16784

These games have just been amazing.

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN 

whamm!   Albania. May 14 2017 06:57. Posts 11625

,

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whamm!   Albania. May 14 2017 07:00. Posts 11625

Bisu (P) vs Ssak(T) in 5 hours guys ROund of 8!!!



Finals matchups in RO8

Bisu vs Ssak - today korea

Mong vs Shine - tuesday korea

Soulkey vs Best - sunday korea

Flash vs Last - tuesday korea

 Last edit: 14/05/2017 12:36

blackjacki2   United States. May 14 2017 11:05. Posts 2581

Let's go Bisu


spets1   Australia. May 14 2017 11:07. Posts 2179

wtf wheres english youtube stream?

hola 

whamm!   Albania. May 14 2017 12:34. Posts 11625

im watching it now


https://www.twitch.tv/gsl

 Last edit: 15/05/2017 10:23

spets1   Australia. May 14 2017 14:32. Posts 2179

ggs!!! must watch game 1

hola 

FrinkX   United States. May 14 2017 23:52. Posts 7561

really good series

game 3 was so fun to watch

then he micros game 4 the way he does -_-

ggs!

bitch on a pension suck my dong 

whamm!   Albania. May 15 2017 00:40. Posts 11625

If we're looking at a Flash vs Bisu final Korea will explode


whamm!   Albania. May 15 2017 12:00. Posts 11625

Clan battle stream
http://play.afreecatv.com/arinbbidol/191628505

 Last edit: 15/05/2017 12:01

whamm!   Albania. May 16 2017 10:39. Posts 11625

Mong and Shine in 30minutes

T vs Z - Mong was a former B-teamer pro who never really improve up until he was given time to catch up during Brood Wars hiatus, he did well in SSLs but with the return of the better players has his hands full. Shine was a Sc2 observer, who already has a wife and kids and is surprising people by not only qualifying the Ro24 but also amazingly is still in the round of 8, with a decent chance of getting to the round of 4. Shine has shown very solid veteran play, and crafty strategies so far, but Z is hard pressed vs T as of late.


whamm!   Albania. May 16 2017 11:18. Posts 11625


whamm!   Albania. May 16 2017 12:06. Posts 11625

The playstyles lmao

 Last edit: 16/05/2017 13:51

spets1   Australia. May 16 2017 12:38. Posts 2179

dont spoil for others wham,

FUCKING HAHAHAHHAHA GMAES ARE SO AWESOME

hola 

Liquid`Drone   Norway. May 16 2017 12:59. Posts 3093

hahahahaha oh my god these games were good

lol POKER 

Joe   Czech Republic. May 16 2017 18:41. Posts 5987

Lol so good, super entertaining series.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell)Last edit: 21/05/2017 11:42

CrownRoyal   United States. May 16 2017 19:28. Posts 11385

it's really refreshing to see a different zerg perspective on zvt. I realize some of this wouldn't have worked vs flash.

It was really frustrating last season to see zergs do the same thing every game vs flash's 5 rax strat and it never worked.

WHAT IS THIS 

whamm!   Albania. May 17 2017 00:35. Posts 11625

You've definitely got a better chance mixing it up with old/new strats in hopes to throw off either alphago or god
Bisu is pretty much drawing dead here lol


Baalim   Mexico. May 17 2017 01:23. Posts 34246

amazing, actual strategy, deception and surprise in these games

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whamm!   Albania. May 17 2017 04:06. Posts 11625


ClouD87   Italy. May 17 2017 04:38. Posts 524

So good :D


Naib   Hungary. May 17 2017 07:23. Posts 968


  On May 16 2017 23:35 whamm! wrote:

Bisu is pretty much drawing dead here lol



Wouldn't bet on that if I were you

My favourite line is Bet/Fold. I bet, you fold. 

longple    Sweden. May 17 2017 12:15. Posts 4472

epicness overload! <3


VanDerMeyde   Norway. May 17 2017 13:26. Posts 5108

I remember norwegian players Sven/Heat did something very similar to this "fakedrop" a long time ago

That Nydus canal ^^

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FrinkX   United States. May 17 2017 21:00. Posts 7561

shine is the coolest ever omg

bitch on a pension suck my dong 

DooMeR   United States. May 17 2017 22:38. Posts 8544


  On May 17 2017 06:23 Naib wrote:
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Wouldn't bet on that if I were you


ye shine is the hero we need in our lives. But bisu should be heavily favored imo

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

whamm!   Albania. May 18 2017 00:25. Posts 11625

The best ASL by far, we got Soulkey vs Best on sunday, whoever wins has got a very decent chance against either FlaSh or LaSt
Meanwhile Bisu vs Shine has got some history between them, it's been said that Bisu has always had trouble (and mostly lost) against Shine's unorthodox builds, more so now that Shine has got some confidence and momentum.


whamm!   Albania. May 21 2017 12:25. Posts 11625


FrinkX   United States. May 21 2017 15:10. Posts 7561

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bitch on a pension suck my dong 

Liquid`Drone   Norway. May 21 2017 20:57. Posts 3093

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lol POKER 

Joe   Czech Republic. May 22 2017 01:02. Posts 5987

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there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

blackjacki2   United States. May 22 2017 02:02. Posts 2581

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ClouD87   Italy. May 22 2017 02:38. Posts 524


  On May 22 2017 01:02 blackjacki2 wrote:
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I played several tournaments in SC2 where players could clearly hear casters. Like in German EPS finals you could hear german casters while playing and in french ESWC (Super big international tournament) french commentators could be heard crystal clear. In fact that tournament was won by Stephano (french player) way too easily. Whenever I asked why stuff wasn't soundproof the answer I was given was that it costs too much money and it was implied tournament organizers weren't incentivized to put the money for that purpose because it wouldn't bring them much benefit at all.


whamm!   Albania. May 22 2017 08:30. Posts 11625

So we're looking at:

Bisu vs Shine - rejuvinated bisu and shine battle it out, best pvz toss vs unbelievably creative player with many gears to his cheese/rushes. Where bisu is strong will not matter that much vs this zerg, really exciting games

Soulkey vs T(last or flash) - another creative and tactical zerg vs either of the two best Terrans around, they're basically one player really.


Finals could be:

Bisu vs Flash/Last - Highly likely, nergasm of a series, prepare for the most epic hyyyype
Shine vs Flash/Last - Very nice backstory David vs Goliath, sentimental favorite in Shine vs inhuman FlaSh

Not so epic outcomes would be:

Shine vs Soulkey - Very unlikely,
Bisu vs Soulkey - Not likely, still decent games


blackjacki2   United States. May 22 2017 09:21. Posts 2581

I feel safe knowing i have Bisu and Flash/Last standing between us and a mirror finals.


whamm!   Albania. May 22 2017 09:23. Posts 11625

lol yeah, also nice the two T will have to cancel out each other


Liquid`Drone   Norway. May 22 2017 18:10. Posts 3093

yeah I wouldn't be excited about a shine vs soulkey final but that seems really unlikely. And every other matchup is awesome.

lol POKER 

whamm!   Albania. May 23 2017 06:59. Posts 11625

Ok 4 hours before the very best TvT you can watch. FlaSh vs his clone LaSt


whamm!   Albania. May 23 2017 11:33. Posts 11625


NMcNasty    United States. May 23 2017 21:54. Posts 2039

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Baalim   Mexico. May 25 2017 22:18. Posts 34246

when is the next game?

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Joe   Czech Republic. May 25 2017 22:30. Posts 5987


  On May 25 2017 21:18 Baalim wrote:
when is the next game?



Both semis are this weeekend.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

traxamillion   United States. May 26 2017 01:42. Posts 10468

Flash straight smashed on Last. Game 1 was beautiful. Last was actually ahead and got absolutely dismantled by dropships and wraiths


spets1   Australia. May 26 2017 03:42. Posts 2179

He was ahead because flash spent money on techhing to those dropships.

hola 

whamm!   Albania. May 27 2017 04:18. Posts 11625

SHINE VS BISUUUU 7 hours from now hyyyype


traxamillion   United States. May 27 2017 12:51. Posts 10468

So sick, Shine to the finals. Some rly fun games there especially on Andromeda. Poor bisu.

I always root for zerg but too bad we can't see the flash bisu finals now


whamm!   Albania. May 27 2017 13:17. Posts 11625


whamm!   Albania. May 27 2017 13:24. Posts 11625

I'm so excited for him to meet FlaSh in the finals, he beat him in the ro24 so he is not backing down at all.
Every other player plays like a worse Flash, Bisu and Jaedong, i hope this changes so we see more variance in the matches

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HaiVan   Bulgaria. May 27 2017 14:38. Posts 2083

Damn, that guy really starting to shine.

Poker chobo. 

FrinkX   United States. May 27 2017 17:31. Posts 7561

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whamm!   Albania. May 28 2017 03:13. Posts 11625

8 hours before FlaSh vs Soulkeyyyyyyyy


Baalim   Mexico. May 28 2017 05:35. Posts 34246

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spets1   Australia. May 28 2017 06:31. Posts 2179

crazy. The only way shine can win is basically doing something tricky though. I reckon flash will go on offensive to keep shine busy so he cant do sneaky shit.

hola 

whamm!   Albania. May 28 2017 13:04. Posts 11625


whamm!   Albania. May 28 2017 13:06. Posts 11625

Shine is a ghost this series, Flash will try to look for what he's up to, that's adding infinitely more pressure on FlaSh
I won't discount that Shine wins it all haha


spets1   Australia. May 28 2017 13:52. Posts 2179

LETS SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOGOGOG FINALS HURRY UP

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alejandicto   . May 29 2017 15:47. Posts 865

Flash vs Soulkey last game was awesome. For a moment I thought that Flash would lose, even Flash made a gesture of relief when Soulkey typed gg.


whamm!   Albania. May 29 2017 16:19. Posts 11625

at least FLaSh didn't just walk all over SK


whamm!   Albania. May 30 2017 00:35. Posts 11625


Baalim   Mexico. May 30 2017 00:45. Posts 34246

4 pool is still current lol

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whamm!   Albania. May 30 2017 03:49. Posts 11625

bisu vs soulkey later 6pm korean time


whamm!   Albania. May 30 2017 16:50. Posts 11625


blackjacki2   United States. Jun 01 2017 02:07. Posts 2581

Glad to see some 4pool and 9pool speedling strats. It seems to me Terrans have been far too confident in moving out on the map vs zerg. You even see them send out 5 rines to force a sunken. I'm hoping for some tricky and aggressive strategies from Shine to keep Flash on his heels instead of immediately conceding map control and trying desperately to secure a 3rd. Maybe some burrowed lings or hold lurker.


Liquid`Drone   Norway. Jun 01 2017 14:42. Posts 3093

agreed. Loved the 4pool as a 'fuck your proxy rax' response.

Somehow top terrans always seem to know if hold lurker is happening. the 6th sense is kinda absurd. What I want is more alliny backstabs. So many terrans move out with their entire army to stop zerg's third, and then zergs use their army to try to fight the army instead of sacrificing their third and going allin on the natural.

lol POKER 

alejandicto   . Jun 01 2017 19:01. Posts 865

=O




ggplz   Sweden. Jun 02 2017 07:47. Posts 16784

Stoked for the final. Loved following this season.

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YoMeR   United States. Jun 02 2017 19:10. Posts 12435

lol it's like Flash never left...back to being God.

that said i'm rooting for shine...such a great underdog story

eZ Life. 

HungarianGOD   . Jun 04 2017 11:54. Posts 459

GGs. Great season


whamm!   Albania. Jun 04 2017 12:14. Posts 11625

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FrinkX   United States. Jun 04 2017 14:32. Posts 7561

u might wanna use spoiler tag whamm...

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YoMeR   United States. Jun 09 2017 22:10. Posts 12435


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whamm!   Albania. Jun 11 2017 03:11. Posts 11625

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spets1   Australia. Jun 11 2017 12:19. Posts 2179

When is the next big competition?

hola 

FrinkX   United States. Jun 18 2017 04:43. Posts 7561


  On June 11 2017 11:19 spets1 wrote:
When is the next big competition?




srsly i check this thread all the time http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20

good stuff pops up once in a while, but nothing as cool as ASL. i really hope they have more productions of that quality, watching ASL has fully gotten me back into bw

bitch on a pension suck my dong 

whamm!   Albania. Jun 18 2017 08:45. Posts 11625

The Finals was an unfortunate letdown, FlaSh too good for disruptive tactics, his specialty is shutting down cheese and safely expo'ing to get his macro going which is just as impeccable.


Joe   Czech Republic. Jun 18 2017 21:53. Posts 5987

Yea, also looking forward to the next big SC:BW event.

Right now, there is this at least:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Ajae_League_Season_2

And if you haven't watched SSL Classic, then it is surely worth it to watch, some very solid games:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SSL_Classic_Season_1

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

whamm!   Albania. Jun 19 2017 09:30. Posts 11625

ASL Team Battle Season 2 a big possibility accdg to some korean guy at TL. We have that at least leading up to ASL4


 



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