Afreeca StarLeague Season 3 (Offline qualifiers till the finals) - Page 4

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OMG JAEDONGGG (((( such fucking nervewrencing game vs last. When he had those drops come through and almost destroy lasts base. Fuck terran imba. I swear they better release a patch to balance it out

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

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On May 09 2017 16:52 spets1 wrote: + Show Spoiler + OMG JAEDONGGG (((( such fucking nervewrencing game vs last. When he had those drops come through and almost destroy lasts base. Fuck terran imba. I swear they better release a patch to balance it out

All I see is better player won

On May 10 2017 04:12 ClouD87 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2017 16:52 spets1 wrote: + Show Spoiler + OMG JAEDONGGG (((( such fucking nervewrencing game vs last. When he had those drops come through and almost destroy lasts base. Fuck terran imba. I swear they better release a patch to balance it out All I see is better player won

i dunno man, everytime i see top tier TvZ all I see is Z trying to survive unless they win with muta or some other short game. The mech switch just owns Z so hard. They literally cant do anything because tanks and mines destory defilers/lurks/ultras

On May 10 2017 04:42 spets1 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2017 04:12 ClouD87 wrote:   On May 09 2017 16:52 spets1 wrote: + Show Spoiler + OMG JAEDONGGG (((( such fucking nervewrencing game vs last. When he had those drops come through and almost destroy lasts base. Fuck terran imba. I swear they better release a patch to balance it out All I see is better player won i dunno man, everytime i see top tier TvZ all I see is Z trying to survive unless they win with muta or some other short game. The mech switch just owns Z so hard. They literally cant do anything because tanks and mines destory defilers/lurks/ultras

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On May 09 2017 16:52 spets1 wrote: + Show Spoiler + OMG JAEDONGGG (((( such fucking nervewrencing game vs last. When he had those drops come through and almost destroy lasts base. Fuck terran imba. I swear they better release a patch to balance it out

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re cloud and baal:

Last had more bases than JD which was very worrying. I think it's because T>Z and Z cant expand because T makes it very hard for Z to get 3rd exp and so on. And that map's other gas bases are in the middle and so easy for T to take down so JD didnt even try to exp into there.
But yeah Last is supposed to be the best right now anyway so maybe JD just isnt good enough. It's just that top Z's are having really hard time beating top T's at this stage.

Anyway rooting for Bisu at this moment.

T>Z>P>T since the beginning of BW but its a slight adv, I cant think of a way to balance this without screwing the other matchup royaly

6 bases T vs Z's 4 is lol in BW math. In the highest levels T has really become too OP, Terrans just sucked back in 1.07 that's why they couldn't deal so they nerfed Z's pool and P's Psi storm research cost and damage. Back then people weren't really using mechs this efficiently where at no point will the best Terrans be in any danger of rushing while taking a natural and BBS with SCVs practically kills most P and Z openings

Depot Barracks simcity solves zeal rush already
Terrans don't even wall anymore, and they even expand safely
Players have become so good at glitching workers even five pooling with slow lings will be murked by 60hp scvs in Elite Terrans hands

All I've noticed very recently is that Terrans can safely take a natural every game

Yeah honestly in JD's two losses it did seem as if Terran was OP. JD didn't really make any egregious mistakes, Terran turreted up liberally (10 turrets in last game!) took center with M&M/vulture, and then just had a huge advantage. It was actually pretty impressive JD could even make an even base ZvT into a game.

It was a typical map control/better army composition and less bases (JD) vs many bases/worse army/no mobility situation(Last). It comes up reasonably often in longer games. It's usually a better and easier to play position for the guy with map control, especially if his army has better mobility. The key to win this situation is to preserve core units (because they produce a snowballing effect when they are in a bigger army vs smaller army situation) and only try to lose the expendable ones.

In the first game JD played really bad after he reached hive tech. There was a point where he could have crushed terran push but he used his defilers worse than a D- guy on iccup would. Other than that I think he played incredibly well but these games are too high level, you can't afford to make gigantic mistakes in key situation and expect to win.

The last game had a point where it was really close, even after reaching 6 t vs 4 z bases. JD shouldve kept adding lurkers to his army (swarm + 1 lurker halts any terran push), but it's incredibly difficult to keep macroing really precisely and efficiently when so much stuff is going on. Anyway, Last got a big early game advantage, Last is top 2 terrans, and JD still almost managed to come back through a brilliant mid game. And in the game vs Ssak, he just didn't perform at the best of his ability.

Anyway, there is a current t>z imbalance, but it can be fixed through playing other maps. 3 player maps inherently disfavor terran (for example if you look at tau cross, which is the most balanced map ever stats wise,
the way that map is designed allows zerg to get to 5 bases with only 3 total ground entry points. That makes vultures way less effective, and it makes swarm+lurker defense way stronger. They can also reduce the buildable terrain, especially behind natural minerals, to make muta harass more effective. I expect some changes to future map pools to factor in that terrans seem to dominate zergs on maps where it's possible to split it in half.

These games have just been amazing.

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Bisu (P) vs Ssak(T) in 5 hours guys ROund of 8!!!



Finals matchups in RO8

Bisu vs Ssak - today korea

Mong vs Shine - tuesday korea

Soulkey vs Best - sunday korea

Flash vs Last - tuesday korea

Let's go Bisu

wtf wheres english youtube stream?

im watching it now


https://www.twitch.tv/gsl