On July 08 2016 05:32 Mortensen8 wrote:
Suspect shooting officer on video
That black guy is probably ex-marine, he clearly knows what he is doing, he rushes the cowering cop behind the pillar and gets him on the side
How is the cop cowering? Looks like a stand-off and he is returning fire, however black guy has a 30 round AR-15 & is wearing body armor while cop is using a pistol and may have no armor at all, he goes for the rush with superior fire power and happened to pick the correct side where his back would be turned.
On July 08 2016 05:32 Mortensen8 wrote:
Suspect shooting officer on video
That black guy is probably ex-marine, he clearly knows what he is doing, he rushes the cowering cop behind the pillar and gets him on the side
How is the cop cowering? Looks like a stand-off and he is returning fire, however black guy has a 30 round AR-15 & is wearing body armor while cop is using a pistol and may have no armor at all, he goes for the rush with superior fire power and happened to pick the correct side where his back would be turned.
Well "cowering" isnt really fair, he is shooting back like a normal cop would but clearly the other guy is trained better and I would bet has combat experience, he didnt pick the right side by chance, he shoots and faints going to the left and then goes to the right, thats why he caught the cop off guard
US police had it coming. They are so fucking trigger happy and they kill whoever they want without repercussions. This might be a good chance to learn how to behave properly from both parties.
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soberstone United States. Jul 08 2016 16:35. Posts 2662
On July 08 2016 06:05 soberstone wrote:
The Left is methodically undoing everything the Civil Rights Movement initially succeeded in achieving.
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Black people are associated with democrats, black people are committing atrocities in Dallas, herego "the left" are responsible.
No. Not at all what I meant.
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soberstone United States. Jul 08 2016 16:36. Posts 2662
On July 08 2016 13:29 ClouD87 wrote:
US police had it coming. They are so fucking trigger happy and they kill whoever they want without repercussions. This might be a good chance to learn how to behave properly from both parties.
Where do you get this nonsense? This is incorrect on so many levels. Just off the charts stupidity.
On July 08 2016 13:29 ClouD87 wrote:
US police had it coming. They are so fucking trigger happy and they kill whoever they want without repercussions. This might be a good chance to learn how to behave properly from both parties.
Where do you get this nonsense? This is incorrect on so many levels. Just off the charts stupidity.
i know right? the cops almost never kill anyone innocent! systematic abuse of power by police officers killing minorities and never facing any repercussions? leftist propaganda obv
Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb
Why do you fall so easily for the media race baiting. The white people that the police kill does not make the news. This is being used for destabilization.
Meanwhile blacks are overrepresented in violent crime. They actually believe that the police are targeting them and this is promoted in rap music and by liberals who think that statistics are the way they are because of racism.
The police are overly paranoid because they are on constant adrenaline binges and within such a huge force there are bound to be morons.
If you think they purposely seek out to kill blacks then you are stupid in fact they are probably more careful in order not to become the next Darren Wilson and having to live in hiding.
To clarify, I was not saying US police is racist, I don't think so. I just think they shoot when they shouldn't way, WAY too often. There are so many sick videos and stories about US police it seems to be the most retarded and violent police corp on the planet. The fuckers even openly steal money from people crossing the border legally just because they happen to bring cash with them. US police corp is a bunch of criminals and people who turn a blind eye on that attitude. They need to be shaken somehow because this shit is not acceptable.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Jul 08 2016 19:54. Posts 5296
On July 08 2016 17:10 Mortensen8 wrote:
Captain Sweden pls go.
Why do you fall so easily for the media race baiting. The white people that the police kill does not make the news. This is being used for destabilization.
Meanwhile blacks are overrepresented in violent crime. They actually believe that the police are targeting them and this is promoted in rap music and by liberals who think that statistics are the way they are because of racism.
The police are overly paranoid because they are on constant adrenaline binges and within such a huge force there are bound to be morons.
If you think they purposely seek out to kill blacks then you are stupid in fact they are probably more careful in order not to become the next Darren Wilson and having to live in hiding.
But the police do seek out blacks, esp for drug offences. Please tell me about all those times the police chucked wall street executives in a cell for snorting cocaine
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On July 08 2016 17:10 Mortensen8 wrote:
Captain Sweden pls go.
Why do you fall so easily for the media race baiting. The white people that the police kill does not make the news. This is being used for destabilization.
Meanwhile blacks are overrepresented in violent crime. They actually believe that the police are targeting them and this is promoted in rap music and by liberals who think that statistics are the way they are because of racism.
The police are overly paranoid because they are on constant adrenaline binges and within such a huge force there are bound to be morons.
If you think they purposely seek out to kill blacks then you are stupid in fact they are probably more careful in order not to become the next Darren Wilson and having to live in hiding.
But the police do seek out blacks, esp for drug offences. Please tell me about all those times the police chucked wall street executives in a cell for snorting cocaine
But to be fair that's not a racism problem. The problem there is the fact that people with money can defend themselves properly in court.
Ofc it's not a racism problem, racism problems are totally overblown everywhere as are all of those Black Lives Matter stupidity movements. Nobody cares that you are black except some hillbillies, you 're poor however and that's why your lives don't matter.
It's always the wealthy class telling poor people to hate the mid class and vice versa, police are filling up their statistics like that all over the world, it's not just the USA.
Quite unaware of the whole cops situation, but it does seem they have been given way too much freedom on how to use their weapons in the USA though. You can't shoot people for being a slight threat.
On July 08 2016 05:32 Mortensen8 wrote:
Suspect shooting officer on video
That black guy is probably ex-marine, he clearly knows what he is doing, he rushes the cowering cop behind the pillar and gets him on the side
tough spot for the cop but I hate how he played that, probably the lowest expectation move he can make. he should push through the same side and wrap the pillar or ideally (and esp if he has some cover from behind) drop away from the pillar ready to cover either side. can even drop onto his back feet towards the pillar 5+ yards back of It to throw off the angles. Black guy was obviously a well trained good shot
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NewbSaibot United States. Jul 09 2016 03:06. Posts 4943
On July 08 2016 05:32 Mortensen8 wrote:
Suspect shooting officer on video
That black guy is probably ex-marine, he clearly knows what he is doing, he rushes the cowering cop behind the pillar and gets him on the side
How is the cop cowering? Looks like a stand-off and he is returning fire, however black guy has a 30 round AR-15 & is wearing body armor while cop is using a pistol and may have no armor at all, he goes for the rush with superior fire power and happened to pick the correct side where his back would be turned.
I dont think it actually matters if its race or not motivated, what is an obvious truth is that police in the US is brutal and trigger happy, they kill a lot of people unnecessarily and do not follow the least amount of force possible at all and what pisses people off is that they cover it up, they defend themselves instead of exposing bad cops, they behave like the mob and they are not held accountable for their crimes.
So I agree they had this coming, obviously its a tragedy those poor inocent cops died and the perpetrators are murderers/terrorists however as it goes to concepts of police and people they earned this blow back, they cant keep getting away with literal murder.
On July 08 2016 05:32 Mortensen8 wrote:
Suspect shooting officer on video
That black guy is probably ex-marine, he clearly knows what he is doing, he rushes the cowering cop behind the pillar and gets him on the side
How is the cop cowering? Looks like a stand-off and he is returning fire, however black guy has a 30 round AR-15 & is wearing body armor while cop is using a pistol and may have no armor at all, he goes for the rush with superior fire power and happened to pick the correct side where his back would be turned.
On July 08 2016 05:32 Mortensen8 wrote:
Suspect shooting officer on video
That black guy is probably ex-marine, he clearly knows what he is doing, he rushes the cowering cop behind the pillar and gets him on the side
tough spot for the cop but I hate how he played that, probably the lowest expectation move he can make. he should push through the same side and wrap the pillar or ideally (and esp if he has some cover from behind) drop away from the pillar ready to cover either side. can even drop onto his back feet towards the pillar 5+ yards back of It to throw off the angles. Black guy was obviously a well trained good shot
If you play a lot of FPS or paintball you will know that the guy rushing in has a HUGE advantage, you get 50%+ of getting the targets back and even when he is facing your position you will always shoot before, in those spots where you rush somebody Id say you win like 80%+ of the time.
And all of that is without even making the feign to the left, to do that in the heat of the moment is insane.
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traxamillion United States. Jul 09 2016 04:13. Posts 10468
depends on how well you can use sound but yea I don't disagree. Which is why the cop needs to change his position so he can't basically just get prefired
On July 09 2016 03:13 traxamillion wrote:
depends on how well you can use sound but yea I don't disagree. Which is why the cop needs to change his position so he can't basically just get prefired
This is real life not Call of Duty... actually if the cop didnt shit his pants thats pretty admirable
On July 09 2016 02:10 Baalim wrote:
I dont think it actually matters if its race or not motivated, what is an obvious truth is that police in the US is brutal and trigger happy, they kill a lot of people unnecessarily and do not follow the least amount of force possible at all and what pisses people off is that they cover it up, they defend themselves instead of exposing bad cops, they behave like the mob and they are not held accountable for their crimes.
So I agree they had this coming, obviously its a tragedy those poor inocent cops died and the perpetrators are murderers/terrorists however as it goes to concepts of police and people they earned this blow back, they cant keep getting away with literal murder.
I agree with you completely on the cop issue.
However the problem is the leftist media turned this into a race war which has caused the conflict to escalate resulting in the shootings in dallas and the ones that followed and keep happening.
Statistically, black people commit way more crimes, which is is why they get targeted by the police more often (and not because their skin is black). Moreover, blacks get murdered mostly by blacks (even more likely by black cops than white cops).
Cliffs: Poor people, wether black or white get abused by the police. Media cherrypicks 2 cases to turn this into a race war with awful consequences.
On the video: I've never play shooters, but after reading your comments to understand, holy shit that's some brutal skills and cold head.
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NewbSaibot United States. Jul 09 2016 17:03. Posts 4943
It's interesting how you bring up paintball, as I play paintball. That moment when you decide to take a window of opportunity and bunker someone is pretty exhilarating. Every instinct says to just maintain your position and wait for him instead, but experience and gut tells you "if i time this right and go now, I could win the match". It's an extremely high risk high reward strategy. The decision to do this with live ammunition is pretty amazing to be honest. The black guy has a clear advantage, he could easily just stay put, keep exchanging fire and hope for a better shot, possibly even land one when the officer posts out. Nope, no guts not glory here, and he goes for it.
The police in the US are good dudes for the most part. People who think they're trigger happy and brutal, idk where you're getting that info from but it's just not true. You guys in Europe get some weird propaganda about what things are like in the US. There's corruption at the highest levels but those are the guys who sit in offices. The ones that are out on the streets are 99%+ solid guys.
Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal
Please don't use paintball / airsoft or anything that resambles that to analyze this, because it isn't even remotely close to a real situation with real ammunition where your life is in danger.
we probably have one of the worst police force in the world, next only to federales lol
cops here feel like they're scamming you if you need anything from them, they wont kill u though
On July 09 2016 18:50 Raidern wrote:
Please don't use paintball / airsoft or anything that resambles that to analyze this, because it isn't even remotely close to a real situation with real ammunition where your life is in danger.
Except that we are using the analogy to say how fucking skilled that move was.
I also play paintball and most novice people arent mobile and keep hiding behind stuff and its standard to rush them and it works every time even when there are other enemies in other angles, but doing this in a real life scenario is crazy and as we speculated the guy had extensive military background.
On July 09 2016 16:05 SleepyHead wrote:
The police in the US are good dudes for the most part. People who think they're trigger happy and brutal, idk where you're getting that info from but it's just not true. You guys in Europe get some weird propaganda about what things are like in the US. There's corruption at the highest levels but those are the guys who sit in offices. The ones that are out on the streets are 99%+ solid guys.
The fuck are you talking about, the US has the most brutal police in the entire 1st world.
Of course many cops are great guys who are not trigger happy and not brutal, the problem is that they cover up for shitty cops, they dont expose the rotten apples, they protect them as a "family" like they call themselves this makes people to hate the cops justifiably so.
If the police threw those murdering cops to the dogs people would have no quarrel, but even to date they keep defending those murders caught on tape and I can only imagine the shit that goes down that is not recorded and that never got any punishment in the past decades
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TimDawg United States. Jul 10 2016 14:34. Posts 10197
On July 09 2016 16:05 SleepyHead wrote:
The police in the US are good dudes for the most part. People who think they're trigger happy and brutal, idk where you're getting that info from but it's just not true. You guys in Europe get some weird propaganda about what things are like in the US. There's corruption at the highest levels but those are the guys who sit in offices. The ones that are out on the streets are 99%+ solid guys.
The fuck are you talking about, the US has the most brutal police in the entire 1st world.
Of course many cops are great guys who are not trigger happy and not brutal, the problem is that they cover up for shitty cops, they dont expose the rotten apples, they protect them as a "family" like they call themselves this makes people to hate the cops justifiably so.
If the police threw those murdering cops to the dogs people would have no quarrel, but even to date they keep defending those murders caught on tape and I can only imagine the shit that goes down that is not recorded and that never got any punishment in the past decades
you clearly have never been to Russia
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Yeah I guess Russia wins the cake. From the outside we tend to see american police in a worse moral position simply because american politicians and press always stress the fact America is the land of freedom and fighting for justice. From a practical standpoint USA don't have the most corrupted and incompetent police corps, yet the hypocrisy makes every bad thing stand out way more.
At least your police has security in their job, unlike ours which by law would have to pull out the same weapon as the attacker. Example: He attacks you with a chainsaw, you cant pull out a gun and shoot him in the leg to immobilize him. There are plenty of cases of fired policemen, cause they did such things.
That being said, a line should be drawn somewhere and thats not an easy thing to do. Security leads to brutality, lack of security leads to corruption, there will always be cops who lack moral.
Well what i mean is, if they start pushing out rotten apples, I bet a lot of decent guys will get swallowed by the witch hunt as well.
On July 09 2016 16:05 SleepyHead wrote:
The police in the US are good dudes for the most part. People who think they're trigger happy and brutal, idk where you're getting that info from but it's just not true. You guys in Europe get some weird propaganda about what things are like in the US. There's corruption at the highest levels but those are the guys who sit in offices. The ones that are out on the streets are 99%+ solid guys.
The fuck are you talking about, the US has the most brutal police in the entire 1st world.
Of course many cops are great guys who are not trigger happy and not brutal, the problem is that they cover up for shitty cops, they dont expose the rotten apples, they protect them as a "family" like they call themselves this makes people to hate the cops justifiably so.
If the police threw those murdering cops to the dogs people would have no quarrel, but even to date they keep defending those murders caught on tape and I can only imagine the shit that goes down that is not recorded and that never got any punishment in the past decades
you clearly have never been to Russia
I dont consider Russia when I talk about the 1st world lol
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TimDawg United States. Jul 11 2016 06:52. Posts 10197
On July 09 2016 16:05 SleepyHead wrote:
The police in the US are good dudes for the most part. People who think they're trigger happy and brutal, idk where you're getting that info from but it's just not true. You guys in Europe get some weird propaganda about what things are like in the US. There's corruption at the highest levels but those are the guys who sit in offices. The ones that are out on the streets are 99%+ solid guys.
The fuck are you talking about, the US has the most brutal police in the entire 1st world.
Of course many cops are great guys who are not trigger happy and not brutal, the problem is that they cover up for shitty cops, they dont expose the rotten apples, they protect them as a "family" like they call themselves this makes people to hate the cops justifiably so.
If the police threw those murdering cops to the dogs people would have no quarrel, but even to date they keep defending those murders caught on tape and I can only imagine the shit that goes down that is not recorded and that never got any punishment in the past decades
you clearly have never been to Russia
I dont consider Russia when I talk about the 1st world lol
Lol. I overlooked that part of your post I guess
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Santafairy Korea (South). Jul 12 2016 01:23. Posts 2226
On July 09 2016 16:05 SleepyHead wrote:
The police in the US are good dudes for the most part. People who think they're trigger happy and brutal, idk where you're getting that info from but it's just not true. You guys in Europe get some weird propaganda about what things are like in the US. There's corruption at the highest levels but those are the guys who sit in offices. The ones that are out on the streets are 99%+ solid guys.
The fuck are you talking about, the US has the most brutal police in the entire 1st world.
Of course many cops are great guys who are not trigger happy and not brutal, the problem is that they cover up for shitty cops, they dont expose the rotten apples, they protect them as a "family" like they call themselves this makes people to hate the cops justifiably so.
If the police threw those murdering cops to the dogs people would have no quarrel, but even to date they keep defending those murders caught on tape and I can only imagine the shit that goes down that is not recorded and that never got any punishment in the past decades
you clearly have never been to Russia
I dont consider Russia when I talk about the 1st world lol
so you define the "first world" as the group of countries with less police brutality than the US and then brought us your conclusion that the US has the most brutal police out of all countries in the first world?
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On July 09 2016 16:05 SleepyHead wrote:
The police in the US are good dudes for the most part. People who think they're trigger happy and brutal, idk where you're getting that info from but it's just not true. You guys in Europe get some weird propaganda about what things are like in the US. There's corruption at the highest levels but those are the guys who sit in offices. The ones that are out on the streets are 99%+ solid guys.
The fuck are you talking about, the US has the most brutal police in the entire 1st world.
Of course many cops are great guys who are not trigger happy and not brutal, the problem is that they cover up for shitty cops, they dont expose the rotten apples, they protect them as a "family" like they call themselves this makes people to hate the cops justifiably so.
If the police threw those murdering cops to the dogs people would have no quarrel, but even to date they keep defending those murders caught on tape and I can only imagine the shit that goes down that is not recorded and that never got any punishment in the past decades
you clearly have never been to Russia
I dont consider Russia when I talk about the 1st world lol
so you define the "first world" as the group of countries with less police brutality than the US and then brought us your conclusion that the US has the most brutal police out of all countries in the first world?
I define as 1st world roughly as th US, Canada, most of europe, Japan, Australia and SouthKorea.
You dont like the world "1st world" do you want me to define it by GDP per capita then? all right the US has the most brutal police in the world in relation to its GDP per capita
You cant just randomly define it like that, is what he meant, and he s right. If a foreign relations professor sees this post he ll get brain damage. Also terms as " first, second and third world" countries doesn't exist since at least 20 years. That was invented during the Cold War for various reasons im not going to go into. I did not believe you would fall for the blind propaganda against Russia, they have absurd inner politic, but so do many other developed countries.
even though first/second/third world are outdated terms originating from the cold war, and even though that original separation of countries has significant flaws as a way of sensibly grouping countries together because it defines suriname, namibia and several other underdeveloped countries as first world, I don't see how what baal said was difficult to understand? The fact is that every 'grouping' like this, whether you wanna do 'developed vs underdeveloped' or 'west vs rest' or 'democratic vs nondemocratic' has issues, 'the west' includes obviously eastern countries like australia and new zealand. developed vs underdeveloped and democratic vs nondemocratic struggle with these not really being binary terms - and a country like russia is certainly one of the harder ones to place.
If people are not deliberately trying to be obtuse, baal's message is easily understandable and correct. Out of all countries that it is in any way natural to compare the US to, in terms of preferred values highlighted as positive, in terms of wealth, in terms of how functional society is, the US has the biggest problem with police brutality. If you want to insist that the US should compare itself to russia and then give itself a pat on the back because their police force has even bigger problems in that nature, then whatever, I personally think that this would be much dumber than using a somewhat inaccurate but mostly socially acceptable (outside political science circles) term.
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blackjacki2 United States. Jul 12 2016 16:02. Posts 2581
The Black Lives Matter movement has become a joke. Look at the latest case that set off the most recent wave of protests. You have what clearly appears to be a justified shooting being labeled as a black man being "executed" by police. These people are blinded by their own ignorance.
On July 12 2016 14:24 Liquid`Drone wrote:
even though first/second/third world are outdated terms originating from the cold war, and even though that original separation of countries has significant flaws as a way of sensibly grouping countries together because it defines suriname, namibia and several other underdeveloped countries as first world, I don't see how what baal said was difficult to understand? The fact is that every 'grouping' like this, whether you wanna do 'developed vs underdeveloped' or 'west vs rest' or 'democratic vs nondemocratic' has issues, 'the west' includes obviously eastern countries like australia and new zealand. developed vs underdeveloped and democratic vs nondemocratic struggle with these not really being binary terms - and a country like russia is certainly one of the harder ones to place.
If people are not deliberately trying to be obtuse, baal's message is easily understandable and correct. Out of all countries that it is in any way natural to compare the US to, in terms of preferred values highlighted as positive, in terms of wealth, in terms of how functional society is, the US has the biggest problem with police brutality. If you want to insist that the US should compare itself to russia and then give itself a pat on the back because their police force has even bigger problems in that nature, then whatever, I personally think that this would be much dumber than using a somewhat inaccurate but mostly socially acceptable (outside political science circles) term.
exactly
Why are you two fighting me on the definition of First world country? I know its based on world war outdated propaganda, but you know perfectly what I mean, "developed countries" and if you want to include Russia in that list who gives a shit, so I suppose the US is has the worst police... besides Russia, fucking congratulations.
Now can we move on and start discussing relevant things for a change? for fucks sake.
On July 12 2016 15:02 blackjacki2 wrote:
The Black Lives Matter movement has become a joke. Look at the latest case that set off the most recent wave of protests. You have what clearly appears to be a justified shooting being labeled as a black man being "executed" by police. These people are blinded by their own ignorance.
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blackjacki2 United States. Jul 13 2016 07:28. Posts 2581
On July 12 2016 15:02 blackjacki2 wrote:
The Black Lives Matter movement has become a joke. Look at the latest case that set off the most recent wave of protests. You have what clearly appears to be a justified shooting being labeled as a black man being "executed" by police. These people are blinded by their own ignorance.
Cops responding to a call of someone brandishing a firearm. The suspect does indeed have a gun, disobeys lawful commands, officers unsuccessful with taser, tackle him to ground and during the struggle officer believes him to be going for his gun (which we cant see in the video if its true or not), so they use lethal force.
Oh did you see the angle from the store? he had a gun in his pocket, it wasnt out and he was in no position to be a threat, if not murder it is negligent incompetence by the cops
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blackjacki2 United States. Jul 13 2016 09:56. Posts 2581
On July 13 2016 06:45 Baalim wrote:
Oh did you see the angle from the store? he had a gun in his pocket, it wasnt out and he was in no position to be a threat, if not murder it is negligent incompetence by the cops
doesn't need to be out, a gun can shoot through a pocket. Even from the store angle we can't see his right hand the entire time but it takes like 1.5 seconds to grab hold of your gun and pull the trigger so I would definitely not say he was "in no position to be a threat." Anyone that is resisting lawful commands and involved in a physical altercation with police while HAVING A GUN is without a doubt a threat.
On July 13 2016 06:45 Baalim wrote:
Oh did you see the angle from the store? he had a gun in his pocket, it wasnt out and he was in no position to be a threat, if not murder it is negligent incompetence by the cops
doesn't need to be out, a gun can shoot through a pocket. Even from the store angle we can't see his right hand the entire time but it takes like 1.5 seconds to grab hold of your gun and pull the trigger so I would definitely not say he was "in no position to be a threat." Anyone that is resisting lawful commands and involved in a physical altercation with police while HAVING A GUN is without a doubt a threat.
how did two tasers fail? why couldnt two trained cops couldnt control the arms of a guy laying flat on the ground? why shoot multiple times at point blank in the chest and not shoot the arm? This better safe than sorry protocol when shooting people has to stop
As usual they wont release the footage of the body cameras, they also took the surveillance video footage without a warrant even when the owner asked for one etc, typical cop procedure.
On July 13 2016 06:45 Baalim wrote:
Oh did you see the angle from the store? he had a gun in his pocket, it wasnt out and he was in no position to be a threat, if not murder it is negligent incompetence by the cops
doesn't need to be out, a gun can shoot through a pocket. Even from the store angle we can't see his right hand the entire time but it takes like 1.5 seconds to grab hold of your gun and pull the trigger so I would definitely not say he was "in no position to be a threat." Anyone that is resisting lawful commands and involved in a physical altercation with police while HAVING A GUN is without a doubt a threat.
how did two tasers fail? why couldnt two trained cops couldnt control the arms of a guy laying flat on the ground? why shoot multiple times at point blank in the chest and not shoot the arm? This better safe than sorry protocol when shooting people has to stop
As usual they wont release the footage of the body cameras, they also took the surveillance video footage without a warrant even when the owner asked for one etc, typical cop procedure.
On July 13 2016 06:45 Baalim wrote:
Oh did you see the angle from the store? he had a gun in his pocket, it wasnt out and he was in no position to be a threat, if not murder it is negligent incompetence by the cops
doesn't need to be out, a gun can shoot through a pocket. Even from the store angle we can't see his right hand the entire time but it takes like 1.5 seconds to grab hold of your gun and pull the trigger so I would definitely not say he was "in no position to be a threat." Anyone that is resisting lawful commands and involved in a physical altercation with police while HAVING A GUN is without a doubt a threat.
how did two tasers fail? why couldnt two trained cops couldnt control the arms of a guy laying flat on the ground? why shoot multiple times at point blank in the chest and not shoot the arm? This better safe than sorry protocol when shooting people has to stop
As usual they wont release the footage of the body cameras, they also took the surveillance video footage without a warrant even when the owner asked for one etc, typical cop procedure.
I don't know, you're sounding kinda sniperish
What? tried to google the meaning of that and I still dont know what that means.
To clarify I partially agree that is an exageration to call this an execution or a murder but this isnt an isolated case or an anomaly this seems to be the norm of a long list of deaths where the police are stupidly eager to shoot to kill.
I am not even a supporter of black lives matter but to not acknowledge that there is a serious police brutality problem in the US is crazy
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blackjacki2 United States. Jul 15 2016 04:16. Posts 2581
The hypocrisy is that the black lives matter movement suggests that every time a black person interacts with police they have to fear being killed. When you look at the examples of all the black people being killed that Black Lives Matters presents almost every single one of them is arguing/resisting/fighting/yelling at the police. That doesn't demonstrate fearfulness to me.
On July 15 2016 03:16 blackjacki2 wrote:
The hypocrisy is that the black lives matter movement suggests that every time a black person interacts with police they have to fear being killed. When you look at the examples of all the black people being killed that Black Lives Matters presents almost every single one of them is arguing/resisting/fighting/yelling at the police. That doesn't demonstrate fearfulness to me.
yeah i'm sure arguing, resiting an yelling at an officer warrants being killed by them. how about doing their job properly without being idiots?
yup! tamir rice definitely deserved to be killed. so did philando castillo and freddie gray. they all resisted = auto death
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blackjacki2 United States. Jul 15 2016 11:04. Posts 2581
On July 15 2016 03:16 blackjacki2 wrote:
The hypocrisy is that the black lives matter movement suggests that every time a black person interacts with police they have to fear being killed. When you look at the examples of all the black people being killed that Black Lives Matters presents almost every single one of them is arguing/resisting/fighting/yelling at the police. That doesn't demonstrate fearfulness to me.
yeah i'm sure arguing, resiting an yelling at an officer warrants being killed by them. how about doing their job properly without being idiots?
yup! tamir rice definitely deserved to be killed. so did philando castillo and freddie gray. they all resisted = auto death
I think BLM is a stupid racist movement but I would be angry as fuck aswell if I was black and I knew these murderers are the guys supposed to protect you.
Nvm I'm still angry at them even if I'm not american and white.
Last edit: 22/07/2016 12:25
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NewbSaibot United States. Jul 22 2016 12:43. Posts 4943
On July 22 2016 10:31 Spitfiree wrote:
the cop in this case deserves prison for sure
What I dont get is what the fuck do they teach these guys in training? Just shoot whenever the fuck you want? I mean, I have my conceal carry license as a citizen and it's so insanely risky for me to even contemplate using my gun that it's practically not even worth it. I'd be better off learning kung fu than risking a jury trial that does not agree with my decision to use lethal force. Heck, one of the guys in my class even walked out half way through saying the same thing, it just wasnt worth being wrong and going to jail for 20 years. Thats how it should be though, last resort. Yet for cops it's always first resort. How are they not held to at least the same standard as me if not a higher one?
bye now
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NewbSaibot United States. Jul 22 2016 15:24. Posts 4943
Jesus titty fucking christ, police department saying they were actually shooting at the autistic guy and accidentally hit the black dude. Accidentally, meaning they knew he was not a threat... so then they fucking cuff him while he's bleeding out on the ground.
traxamillion United States. Jul 22 2016 15:46. Posts 10468
On July 22 2016 14:24 NewbSaibot wrote:
Jesus titty fucking christ, police department saying they were actually shooting at the autistic guy and accidentally hit the black dude. Accidentally, meaning they knew he was not a threat... so then they fucking cuff him while he's bleeding out on the ground.
wow what a lie; the best defense they could come up with and so transparent
This is another problem and very sickening, rather than deal with the cop as the fuckup criminal he is they defend him at all costs. happens everytime. People hate that as much as anything
If you score above iq 80 you can't join american police
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traxamillion United States. Jul 22 2016 15:48. Posts 10468
On July 22 2016 14:47 ClouD87 wrote:
If you score above iq 80 you can't join american police
yea its true, if you score decently on IQ tests you don't get in. the threshold isn't 80 but it is pretty dam low - 100-110 I believe is max allowable intelligence
On July 22 2016 14:47 ClouD87 wrote:
If you score above iq 80 you can't join american police
yea its true, if you score decently on IQ tests you don't get in. the threshold isn't 80 but it is pretty dam low - 100-110 I believe is max allowable intelligence
Lol that was a joke. But truth is as you said looooooooool
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YoMeR United States. Jul 22 2016 19:56. Posts 12435
this is all so fucked. both sides are living in fear and hatred and the cycle of killing won't stop. So so sad
eZ Life.
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YoMeR United States. Jul 22 2016 19:58. Posts 12435
also people thinking that the white vs black problem dissapeared after the civil rights movement back in the 1960s is dead wrong. this stuff has been going on since then...just now it's starting to flare up. Remember that kid that got murdered few years back and the murder got away scot free because the kid happened to be black?
shit like that has been happening for decades. lynchings has been happening still to this day. Black people in rage has been targeting innocent white people too.
Fucking terrible really. This is a byproduct of the US's sin with slavery and won't go away anytime soon.
eZ Life.
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YoMeR United States. Jul 22 2016 20:03. Posts 12435
On July 09 2016 16:05 SleepyHead wrote:
The police in the US are good dudes for the most part. People who think they're trigger happy and brutal, idk where you're getting that info from but it's just not true. You guys in Europe get some weird propaganda about what things are like in the US. There's corruption at the highest levels but those are the guys who sit in offices. The ones that are out on the streets are 99%+ solid guys.
The fuck are you talking about, the US has the most brutal police in the entire 1st world.
Of course many cops are great guys who are not trigger happy and not brutal, the problem is that they cover up for shitty cops, they dont expose the rotten apples, they protect them as a "family" like they call themselves this makes people to hate the cops justifiably so.
If the police threw those murdering cops to the dogs people would have no quarrel, but even to date they keep defending those murders caught on tape and I can only imagine the shit that goes down that is not recorded and that never got any punishment in the past decades
you clearly have never been to Russia
I dont consider Russia when I talk about the 1st world lol
so you define the "first world" as the group of countries with less police brutality than the US and then brought us your conclusion that the US has the most brutal police out of all countries in the first world?
I define as 1st world roughly as th US, Canada, most of europe, Japan, Australia and SouthKorea.
You dont like the world "1st world" do you want me to define it by GDP per capita then? all right the US has the most brutal police in the world in relation to its GDP per capita
You know the IMF rates south korea as a emerging economy right? Aka 2nd world.
The income and wealth disparity is way too high in that country to be considered a 1st world nation. There is little to no middle class there. Also the amount of corruption in the south korean government is unbelievable. And I wouldn't be surprised if the cops were just as bad or worse. Politics there makes the US politics seem amazing.
On July 22 2016 14:24 NewbSaibot wrote:
Jesus titty fucking christ, police department saying they were actually shooting at the autistic guy and accidentally hit the black dude. Accidentally, meaning they knew he was not a threat... so then they fucking cuff him while he's bleeding out on the ground.
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