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TUF 23 Finale: Jedrzejczyk vs. Gadelha

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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 20 2016 07:15. Posts 13051

Date: Friday, July 8th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 23:59 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 03:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
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Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

Joanna Jedrzejczyk (11-0) vs Claudia Gadelha (13-1) (Women's Strawweight)
Andrew Sanchez (7-2) vs. Khalil Rountree (4-0) (TUF 23 Light Heavyweight Tournament Finale)
Amanda Cooper (1-1) vs. Tatiana Suarez (3-0) (TUF 23 Women's Strawweight Tournament Finale)
Ross Pearson (19-10) vs. Will Brooks (17-1) (Lightweight)
Doo Ho Choi (13-1) vs. Thiago Tavares (20-6-1) (Featherweight)
Joaquim Silva (8-0) vs. Andrew Holbrook (11-0) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Gray Maynard (11-5-1) vs. Fernando Bruno (15-3) (Featherweight)
John Moraga (16-4) vs. Matheus Nicolau (11-1-1) (Flyweight)
Josh Stansbury (7-2) vs. Cory Hendricks (3-0) (Light Heavyweight)
Cezar Ferreira (9-5) vs. Anthony Smith (25-11) (Middleweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Jake Matthews (10-1) vs. Kevin Lee (12-2) (Lightweight)
Li Jingliang (10-4) vs. Anton Zafir (7-2) (Welterweight)

Other

- Scott Askham was expected to face Anthony Smith at the event, but pulled out on April 28 due to injury and was replaced by The Ultimate Fighter: Brazil winner Cezar Ferreira.
- Stevie Ray was expected to face Jake Matthews at the event, but pulled out on June 2 due to injury and was replaced by Kevin Lee.
- James Krause was scheduled to face The Ultimate Fighter: United States vs. United Kingdom lightweight winner Ross Pearson at the event. However on June 13, he was pulled from the fight for undisclosed reasons. He was replaced by former Bellator Lightweight Champion and promotional newcomer Will Brooks.

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PuertoRican   United States. Jun 20 2016 07:18. Posts 13051

First impression of the match-ups:

• Gadelha > JJ


• Brooks > Pearson
• Matthews > Lee
• Choi > Tavares
• Smith > Ferreira
• Maynard > Bruno
• Holbrook > Silva
• Li > Zafir
• Moraga > Nicolau

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alejandicto   . Jun 20 2016 19:11. Posts 865

I already bet on gadelha for that odds. 30 bucks (+180). I am waiting for the rest of the odds.

I am also following this season of TUF, rooting for Tatiana Suarez and Cory Hendricks.

 Last edit: 20/06/2016 19:16

soberstone   United States. Jun 21 2016 21:41. Posts 2662

You are picking CG over JJ su? Or just find value.

I'm pretty surprised at this. I know the first fight was uber close but I think 5 rounds is favorable to JJ as well as the fact that she has a much better chance of finishing the fight.

I think the Maynard vs Bruno matchup is pretty hilarious and sad that they have to go this far down the roster to find Maynard a win at this point.

 Last edit: 21/06/2016 21:42

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 22 2016 00:53. Posts 13051

I like Claudia to beat JJ straight up.

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Floofy   Canada. Jun 22 2016 04:15. Posts 8708

Claudia vs JJ

The first fight was actually won by Claudia. Mma decisions has 12 for claudia and only 2 for Joanna. This was only 18 months ago.
Claudia is +160

Hard to tell which fighter improved the most, But Joanna probably gained the most confidence of the two.
My guess is Joanna probably did not improve a tons more than claudia in striking, since Joanna was already a muay thai champ (you can't improve that much when ur already super elite...)
On the other hand, its likely Joanna worked on her ground game and TDD.

The fight is 5 rounds. This in theory should help Joanna.
Joanna has looked really good since then, but i honnestly think those 3 opponements she just beat are really weaker than both claudia and Joanna.

At current odds i have an hard time deciding which girl to bet, but i think i lean Claudia. I mean the fight with Letourneau was arguably somewhat competitive, and Claudia is leagues above Letourneau.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 22/06/2016 04:39

Floofy   Canada. Jun 22 2016 04:39. Posts 8708

Brooks vs Pearson
This looks like a showcase fight where the ufc wants to introduce us the ex lightweight champ against a known but easy name.
Value is probably going to be on Brooks, but we need to see the odds.

I don't want to abuse MMA maths, but Brooks is around Alvarez's level, which should easily get the job done against Pearson.

Matthews vs Lee

Matthews improve a lot every fights. I think he is a future star. The last version we saw of Matthews would probably beat Lee, so i have no doubt he should win this one. Lee is also not known to have much KO power, so this should be a reasonably safe bet.

Choi vs Tavares
Choi is amazing and could be a future champ.
But Tavares is 3rd degree black belt in BJJ and its probably GG if it hits the ground.
Choi vs Sicilia was short, but from that fight, Choi didn't appear to be insanely good at wrestling or on the ground.

I would still favor choi, but if i can get good odds on tavares i think i would pick him.

james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(Last edit: 22/06/2016 04:53

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 23 2016 23:44. Posts 9634

Weird no TUF competitors on the card? Cory Hendricks should be facing someone as Dana said so, unless his injury went into depth. They probably wait for the show to finish to post the other fights though.

Gadelha vs JJ , just bet on whoever is the "underdog". Neither has a big edge so pick the value bet

Also

 
I'm pretty surprised at this. I know the first fight was uber close but I think 5 rounds is favorable to JJ as well as the fact that she has a much better chance of finishing the fight.



Why are they favorable to her ? Sure didn't seem that way in their last fight. She does have more experience in 5 rounds fights, but I don't think it matters in this case as both have great conditioning

 Last edit: 24/06/2016 00:03

PuertoRican   United States. Jul 06 2016 19:53. Posts 13051

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 07 2016 02:25. Posts 7499

This is as good as it gets for WMMA right now. Still not that excited but should be good.

Glad to see Will Brooks in the UFC, though Pearson isn't really a great opponent.

Choi vs Tavares is actually a pretty dope fight. Choi's boxing is fun.

Picks: JJ, Brooks, Lee, Choi.

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Floofy   Canada. Jul 07 2016 04:49. Posts 8708


  On July 07 2016 01:25 Stim_Abuser wrote:
This is as good as it gets for WMMA right now. Still not that excited but should be good.

Glad to see Will Brooks in the UFC, though Pearson isn't really a great opponent.

Choi vs Tavares is actually a pretty dope fight. Choi's boxing is fun.

Picks: JJ, Brooks, Lee, Choi.



I agree i like this card.

Choi is a really cool fighter i hope he makes it big
But i like Tavares at +200

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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 07 2016 21:15. Posts 13051




Joanna Jedrzejczyk (114.5) vs. Claudia Gadelha (115) – for women’s strawweight title
Khalil Rountree (205.5) vs. Andrew Sanchez (199.5) – TUF 23 light heavyweight tournament final
Amanda Cooper (116) vs. Tatiana Suarez (115.5) – TUF 23 women’s strawweight tournament final
Will Brooks (156) vs. Ross Pearson (155.5)
Doo Ho Choi (146) vs. Thiago Tavares (146)
Andrew Holbrook (155.5) vs. Joaquim Silva (155)
Fernando Bruno (146) vs. Gray Maynard (145.5)
John Moraga (126) vs. Matheus Nicolau (125.5)
Cory Hendricks (204) vs. Josh Stansbury (205.5)
Cezar Ferreira (186) vs. Anthony Smith (185)
Kevin Lee (155) vs. Jake Matthews (156)
Li Jingliang (171) vs. Anton Zafir (170)

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 07/07/2016 21:30

northsails   Bulgaria. Jul 08 2016 11:35. Posts 410

hmm, odds are very close now for JJ vs Gadelha. JJ very much playable now.

I think JJ is going to take over this fight in the later rounds. Also looking at the props bet 365 has JJ R4 +2200 and R5 +3300. Great value for some small stabs, imo.


PuertoRican   United States. Jul 08 2016 18:00. Posts 13051

I just updated the OP.

The time was off, and all the fights were out of order because of the late additions of the TUF finalists.

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soberstone   United States. Jul 08 2016 19:00. Posts 2662


  On July 08 2016 10:35 northsails wrote:
hmm, odds are very close now for JJ vs Gadelha. JJ very much playable now.

I think JJ is going to take over this fight in the later rounds. Also looking at the props bet 365 has JJ R4 +2200 and R5 +3300. Great value for some small stabs, imo.



Agreed.

It's one of those situations where the fight is going to look reasonably close almost every time but the edge in cardio and massive edge in striking should bare out a victory over 5 for JJ well over half the time.


PuertoRican   United States. Jul 08 2016 19:09. Posts 13051

Here's some stats that I've been adding to for a few months. They're mostly for PPV cards, which is where most title fights happen. I added UFC FN 90 because it had a title fight on it.

• UFC FN 90: Alvarez > dos Anjos (ITD)
• UFC 199: Bisping > Rockhold (ITD), and Cruz > Faber (decision)
• UFC 198: Miocic > Werdum (ITD)
• UFC 197: Jones > OSP (boring decision, vacant interim title), and Johnson > Cejudo (ITD)
• UFC 196: Diaz > McGregor (ITD, non-title), and Miesha > Holm (ITD)
• UFC 195: Lawler > Condit (split-decision robbery)*
• UFC 194: McGregor > Aldo (ITD), and Rockhold > Weidman (ITD)
• UFC 193: Holm > Rousey (ITD)

Titles changed hands: 7
Main event upsets: 7*
Main events ended ITD: 6/8

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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 00:00. Posts 13051

Fight Pass prelims start in a couple minutes: https://www.ufc.tv/video/tuf-23-finale-fight-pass-prelims

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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 00:07. Posts 13051

My DK teams:

1. Jedrzejczyk, Matthews, Sanchez, Silva, Smith
2. Jedrzejczyk, Matthews, Rountree, Silva, Smith
3. Choi, Ferreira, Jedrzejczyk, Rountree, Silva
4. Choi, Ferreira, Jedrzejczyk, Matthews, Sanchez
5. Choi, Jedrzejczyk, Moraga, Pearson, Rountree
6. Jedrzejczyk, Matthews, Moraga, Smith, Tavares
7. Gadelha, Matthews, Moraga, Smith, Tavares
8. Choi, Gadelha, Holbrook, Matthews, Sanchez
9. Bruno, Ferreira, Gadelha, Silva, Tavares
10. Bruno, Choi, Gadelha, Matthews, Smith

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soberstone   United States. Jul 09 2016 00:38. Posts 2662

Wow @ Lee vs Mathews.

Surprised Lee was able to bully him like that. Super impressive just wondering where that was at his last couple fights.


PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 01:32. Posts 13051


  On July 08 2016 23:38 soberstone wrote:
Wow @ Lee vs Mathews.

Surprised Lee was able to bully him like that. Super impressive just wondering where that was at his last couple fights.



Lee was winning, but that referee was dumb af. He instantly called for the fighter to move right right he was put in a bad position. You usually wait to see if a fighter is getting hurt before you tell him to move/stay busy/protect yourself.

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ERASA   Germany. Jul 09 2016 02:57. Posts 2440

What a sad fight...


PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 03:05. Posts 13051


  On July 09 2016 01:57 ERASA wrote:
What a sad fight...



That's putting it lightly...

It was fucking disgusting, imo.

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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 03:17. Posts 13051

I'm glad Holbrook got knocked out. That decision over Nijem was bullshit.

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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 03:40. Posts 13051

The Korean Superboy making it look EASY!

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jvilla777   Australia. Jul 09 2016 03:46. Posts 1348

sick KO by Choi.. and yess called out Swanson/Kawajiri, not the standard "I'll fight whoever the UFC gives me" speech

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Baalim   Mexico. Jul 09 2016 03:57. Posts 34250


  On July 09 2016 02:40 PuertoRican wrote:
The Korean Superboy making it look EASY!



he stood in the pocket guard open when Chois hand was positioned for an obvious straight right, Roy Jones style... the fuck was he thinking?

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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 04:24. Posts 13051


  On July 09 2016 02:57 Baalim wrote:
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he stood in the pocket guard open when Chois hand was positioned for an obvious straight right, Roy Jones style... the fuck was he thinking?


Tavares: OH FUCK... I CAN'T KEEP THIS FUCKER DOWN... MOMMY!!!

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Good win for Will Brooks, but his cardio looked poor. He started R3 looked slow, and that was before Ross Pearson started landed a lot on him.

Brooks did take the fight on 3 weeks notice, so maybe that was it.

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jvilla777   Australia. Jul 09 2016 04:30. Posts 1348

Will Brooks looks jacked for a light weight, he looks like a body builder

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 04:45. Posts 13051

Nice performance from Suarez.

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traxamillion   United States. Jul 09 2016 06:03. Posts 10468

have JJ In rd 4/5

could be good


PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 06:18. Posts 13051

Entertaining fight.

All rounds were clear, imo.

R1: Claudia
R2: Claudia
R3: Joanna
R4: Joanna
R5: Joanna

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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 09 2016 06:18. Posts 34250

that was some shitty cardio by Gadhela... she was a brick by the 3rd round

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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 06:24. Posts 13051


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Raidern   Brasil. Jul 09 2016 13:14. Posts 4243

claudinha looked good in the first two rounds but damn her striking was non existant later in the fight!

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PuertoRican   United States. Jul 09 2016 14:40. Posts 13051


  On July 09 2016 12:14 Raidern wrote:
claudinha looked good in the first two rounds but damn his striking was non existant later in the fight!



She gassed after the first 2 rounds.

I was kinda surprised... I expected her to be fresh for at least 3 rounds, considering she got rid of some of her muscle mass for this fight.

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