UFC FN 87: Overeem vs. Arlovski - Page 2

On May 03 2016 01:05 PuertoRican wrote:

Man these breakdowns suck they dont go anything beyond what we casuals discuss in here.

On May 04 2016 03:08 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 01:05 PuertoRican wrote: Man these breakdowns suck they dont go anything beyond what we casuals discuss in here.

I personally never watch them because it's all shit I already know, and Dan Hardy's co-host doesn't know anything about MMA, so it's basically Hardy doing everything by himself.

However, some of the episodes are kinda cool, but it's only when they're in the main studio with the large touch screen in the background where they can do a bunch of cool shit with a fight video. I don't remember if they're only in the main studio for PPV events or not, but I do know they do low budget episodes when they're on the road in Europe, just like they're doing in the video above.

On May 04 2016 00:49 Minsk wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 15:10 alejandicto wrote: Bigfoot and Nelson my only bets I kind of like the logic behind those. Are you winning overall in UFC betting? I've noticed you have a particular logic to all your bets. Just wondering if it works.

I like underdogs and parlays :D. And yes I am winning overall in MMA betting, not a lot, but I like to think I can see when an underdog is underrated against his opponent.

On May 04 2016 17:16 alejandicto wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2016 00:49 Minsk wrote:   On May 03 2016 15:10 alejandicto wrote: Bigfoot and Nelson my only bets I kind of like the logic behind those. Are you winning overall in UFC betting? I've noticed you have a particular logic to all your bets. Just wondering if it works. I like underdogs and parlays :D. And yes I am winning overall in MMA betting, not a lot, but I like to think I can see when an underdog is underrated against his opponent.

Yeah, you like value from underdogs that could likely/potentially be a coinflip. It's a pretty solid strategy. Since I didn't have the time to test it over a good sample, thanks for sharing.

If you're winning I will follow you on those bets, because I agree with the logic.

Also have Overeem ML and Horoguchi ML. Also have O1.5, but I'm worried about it now. I took it largely because were teammates, unlikely to want to murder each other.

On May 04 2016 03:08 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 01:05 PuertoRican wrote: Man these breakdowns suck they dont go anything beyond what we casuals discuss in here.

Maybe we're just professionals?

Only breakdowns I really like are Jack Slacks. I hear BJJ scout is good too but his videos are usually way too long for me.

On May 04 2016 19:51 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2016 03:08 Baalim wrote:   On May 03 2016 01:05 PuertoRican wrote: Man these breakdowns suck they dont go anything beyond what we casuals discuss in here. Maybe we're just professionals? Only breakdowns I really like are Jack Slacks. I hear BJJ scout is good too but his videos are usually way too long for me.

I like both, they are great JackSlack writes and uses GIFs.. have some sporadical videos but they are mainly about old time boxers like Willy Pep, BJJ Scout vids are really good too

Have a hard time seeing Arlovski beating Reem. He is just spamming his right hand this days and Alistair is too technical on the feet to let that get in. You can never be too sure with Overeem thought, as his ability to lose a fight out of nowhere is second to none.

Tumenov and Nelson - very fun match up, I think Tumenov will avoid the takedowns and smash Gunnar on the feet, but Nelson definitely is a live dog. He has sneaky stand up and if somehow the fight goes to the ground his edge there is huge.

I don't know how Bigfoot is still allowed to fight. What a piece of shit co main event. Struve as bad as he is should be taking this fight easy.

he is not Roy Nelson, you cant just prepare for the right hand and cruise to victory he throws hooks, straights uppercuts and mix it well with the left it wouldnt surprise me if he catches Overeem the fight is far from being one sided

Arlovski may outbox overeem, don't be surprised mother fuckers

If Arlovski wins, its not through outboxing Overreem, its through KOing him. After watching Overeem vs JDS, hes way too technical and experienced to be outboxed by Arlovski.

On May 05 2016 13:44 Minsk wrote: If Arlovski wins, its not through outboxing Overreem, its through KOing him. After watching Overeem vs JDS, hes way too technical and experienced to be outboxed by Arlovski.

Yeah Arlovski isnt remotely at the boxing level of Overeem but he is very explosive and I think there is a decent chance he connects and Overeem tends to collapse when hurt under pressure quickly

Depends on which Arlovski shows up.

Thug Arlovski version who destroyed Browne. Gave no fucks and just went hard. If he does this I give him an ok chance. 35, maybe even 40%

Or please don't hurt me Arlovski that showed up against Mir and Schaub I think he gets crushed badly. When he fights like this he is completely afraid to commit to anything.

Theres also the x-factor that Overeem is the best in the world at losing fights he shouldn't via being stupid.

On May 07 2016 07:54 Stim_Abuser wrote: Depends on which Arlovski shows up. Thug Arlovski version who destroyed Browne. Gave no fucks and just went hard. If he does this I give him an ok chance. 35, maybe even 40% Or please don't hurt me Arlovski that showed up against Mir and Schaub I think he gets crushed badly. When he fights like this he is completely afraid to commit to anything. Theres also the x-factor that Overeem is the best in the world at losing fights he shouldn't via being stupid.

Jackson and Wink coached Travis Browne perfectly to exploit Overeems guard, and now they know even more about him and they ditched Reem to coach Arlovski so I seriously doubt he is coming out with the wrong plan

On May 05 2016 13:59 PuertoRican wrote:

He posted this on his facebook

"Snart dags igen. Vill dela med mig av lite saker jag har kommit på under veckan. Tidigare camps så har jag slitit arslet av mig, haft ont i kroppen men fortsatt jobbat emot d. Jag har haft en tung viktnedgång. Jag har krigat med känslor innan match, tänk om jag förlorar då har jag gjort allt i onödan. Tänk om tänk om. Nervositeten har gjort sig påmind. Denna gång åkte jag 5 veckor innan match med fru barn å @jockegbgmma till albuquerqe. Vi tränade inte särskilt hårt. Men hade svin kul. Hela fightweek har jag bara glidit runt i Rotterdam å haft det skönt å skrattat. Vet inte om detta är bättre eller sämre det får man se på söndag kanske blir katastrof. Men poängen är att det spelar ingen roll för första gången har jag njutit hela vägen å ska även njuta på söndag. Livet är för kort för att gå å oroa sig å tänka på att alla resultat inte kommer gå din väg. Så på söndag på vinst eller förlust ska jag ha riktigt skoj hur än resultatet blir."

Quick translation: Previous camps hes been working his ass off and always felt beat up but pushed threw it, Tough weightcuts and lots of anxiousness about losing. This time he went to albuquerqe with his wife and kids and only had a 5 week camp and says he did not work that hard and its all about enyoing himself all the way up to and during the fight.

On May 07 2016 09:02 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2016 07:54 Stim_Abuser wrote: Depends on which Arlovski shows up. Thug Arlovski version who destroyed Browne. Gave no fucks and just went hard. If he does this I give him an ok chance. 35, maybe even 40% Or please don't hurt me Arlovski that showed up against Mir and Schaub I think he gets crushed badly. When he fights like this he is completely afraid to commit to anything. Theres also the x-factor that Overeem is the best in the world at losing fights he shouldn't via being stupid. Jackson and Wink coached Travis Browne perfectly to exploit Overeems guard, and now they know even more about him and they ditched Reem to coach Arlovski so I seriously doubt he is coming out with the wrong plan

Travis Browne only beat Overeem after Reem gassed out going for the kill. Many referees would've stopped that fight, as Travis was curled up in a ball against the cage, eating punches.

Travis did nothing against Overeem that made me think Jackson/Wink prepared him for the fight.

Yea that was more Reem gassing and being stupid than some master game plan. I mean the kick was a good one against Reems guard sure, but he threw it like 7 times in a row without connecting before it finally hit. That was more Reem being too gassed and dumb to stop it.

Gunnar looking more muscular and lean in this fight. Looks to actually be in great shape, by far the best of his career.

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Gunnar Nelson (170) vs. Albert Tumenov (170)
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Francimar Barroso (204) vs. Nikita Krylov (205)
Heather Jo Clark (116) vs. Karolina Kowalkiewicz (115)
Rustam Khabilov (155) vs. Chris Wade (155)
Magnus Cedenblad (185) vs. Garreth McLellan (184)
Josh Emmett (156) vs. Jon Tuck (156)
Yan Cabral (156) vs. Reza Madadi (155)
Kyoji Horiguchi (125) vs. Neil Seery (126)
Leon Edwards (169.5) vs. Dominic Waters (170)
Willie Gates (125) vs. Ulka Sasaki (125)

bigfoot looks like another person with hair and beard