UFC FN 87: Overeem vs. Arlovski

Date: Sunday, May 8th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 15:30 LP.net / 7:30am PST / 10:30am EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 17:00 LP.net / 9am PST / 12pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 19:00 LP.net / 11am PST / 2pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

Alistair Overeem (40-14) vs. Andrei Arlovski (25-11) (Heavyweight)
Antonio Silva (19-8-1) vs. Stefan Struve (26-8) (Heavyweight)
Albert Tumenov (17-2) vs. Gunnar Nelson (14-2-1) (Welterweight)
Germaine de Randamie (5-3) vs. Anna Elmose (3-0) (Women's Bantamweight)
Nikita Krylov (19-4) vs. Francimar Barroso (18-4) (Light Heavyweight)
Karolina Kowalkiewicz (8-0) vs. Heather Jo Clark (7-4) (Women's Strawweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Rustam Khabilov (18-3) vs. Chris Wade (11-1) (Lightweight)
Magnus Cedenblad (13-4) vs. Garreth McLellan (13-3) (Middleweight)
Nick Hein (13-2) vs. Jon Tuck (9-2) (Lightweight)
Yan Cabral (12-2) vs. Reza Madadi (13-4) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Kyoji Horiguchi (16-2) vs. Neil Seery (16-11) (Flyweight)
Leon Edwards (10-3) vs. Dominic Waters (9-4) (Welterweight)
Yuta Sasaki (18-3-2) vs. Willie Gates (12-6) (Flyweight)

Other

- Rashid Magomedov was expected to face Chris Wade at the event. However, Magomedov pulled out of the fight in early March citing injury, and was replaced by Rustam Khabilov.
- Peter Sobotta was expected to face Dominic Waters at the event. However, Sobotta pulled out of the fight in late March citing injury and was replaced by Leon Edwards.
- Paddy Holohan was expected to face Willie Gates at the event. However, on April 25, Holohan abruptly announced his retirement, citing a rare blood disorder. In turn, Gates will face Yuta Sasaki.

First impression of the match-ups:

• Overeem > Arlovski
• Struve > Silva
• Tumenov vs. Nelson (dunno)
• Randamie > Elmose
• Krylov > Barroso
• Kowalkiewicz > Clark
• Wade > Khabilov
• McLellan > Cedenblad
• Tuck > Hein
• Madadi > Cabral
• Horiguchi > Seery
• Edwards > Waters
• Gates > Sasaki

I hammered tumenov + overeem off the bat. Then hammered tumenov again when he dropped to -175

Kinda big on struve too

Want to believe arlovski can pull this off but don't see how he doesn't get picked apart then prob tko'd.

Going to be on Tumenov and little on Tuck and Madadi

Can't bring myself to bet Struve/Silva. Both suck so much at this point

Why the confidence in Tumenov? Only fight I've seen his grappling tested in was the Alcantara fight where he was taken down several times and beat up there and lost a decision. Also he comes from a striking background.

I do think Gunnar is way too small for WW though. Hopefully if he loses this he finally wises up and moves to LW. He's only a tiny bit bigger than Conor.

On May 01 2016 22:22 Stim_Abuser wrote: Why the confidence in Tumenov? Only fight I've seen his grappling tested in was the Alcantara fight where he was taken down several times and beat up there and lost a decision. Also he comes from a striking background. I do think Gunnar is way too small for WW though. Hopefully if he loses this he finally wises up and moves to LW. He's only a tiny bit bigger than Conor.

Yeah, it's a super tricky fight. I've seen a lot of people mention they're putting large bets on Tumenov, as if he's a lock. I personally think it will go to a decision, unless Gunnar gets a submission win.

Regarding their size, they are both 5'11 (according to Wikipedia and Sherdog), and they both don't have thick bodies, nor are they "ripped."

Gunnar is better at keeping distance between himself and his opponent, and he has better foot movement and BJJ. Tumenov has the better boxing and power in his hands.

Ildemar Alcantara was able to use his massive size advantage (6'2 vs. 5'11) against Tumenov, and just LnP him. Gunnar doesn't have the size advantage, but his BJJ is much more effective in MMA than Alcantara, and he would lock in a submission if he was on top of Tumenov like Alcantara was.

I'll make a final prediction after the weigh-ins on Saturday morning. Neither guy will look any different than usual, I just don't have time to theory-craft at the moment.

On May 01 2016 22:22 Stim_Abuser wrote: Why the confidence in Tumenov? Only fight I've seen his grappling tested in was the Alcantara fight where he was taken down several times and beat up there and lost a decision. Also he comes from a striking background. I do think Gunnar is way too small for WW though. Hopefully if he loses this he finally wises up and moves to LW. He's only a tiny bit bigger than Conor.

because watch the gunnar nelson vs rick story fight

On May 01 2016 23:11 jvilla777 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2016 22:22 Stim_Abuser wrote: Why the confidence in Tumenov? Only fight I've seen his grappling tested in was the Alcantara fight where he was taken down several times and beat up there and lost a decision. Also he comes from a striking background. I do think Gunnar is way too small for WW though. Hopefully if he loses this he finally wises up and moves to LW. He's only a tiny bit bigger than Conor. because watch the gunnar nelson vs rick story fight

I actually predicted Rick Story would wreck him along with a lot of other people. Failing to take down one of the best wrestlers in the division =/ unable to take down Tumenov. Rick Story is a beast and is a really tough fight for just about anybody besides Maia.

On May 01 2016 23:25 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2016 23:11 jvilla777 wrote:   On May 01 2016 22:22 Stim_Abuser wrote: Why the confidence in Tumenov? Only fight I've seen his grappling tested in was the Alcantara fight where he was taken down several times and beat up there and lost a decision. Also he comes from a striking background. I do think Gunnar is way too small for WW though. Hopefully if he loses this he finally wises up and moves to LW. He's only a tiny bit bigger than Conor. because watch the gunnar nelson vs rick story fight I actually predicted Rick Story would wreck him along with a lot of other people. Failing to take down one of the best wrestlers in the division =/ unable to take down Tumenov. Rick Story is a beast and is a really tough fight for just about anybody besides Maia.

yeah thats true.


Nelson's latest previous fights vs stand up guys, he was initially striking vs Thatch then he knocked him down then submitted him, he did not really initiate, grapple or shoot for a take down, so he usually starts fighting stand up. Another example is the Rick Story fight where Nelson just kept getting tagged in these stand up exchanges. VS Tumenov then, well you get the idea if you watch Tumenov's latest previous fights.

Obviously Nelson can win most likely by submitting Tumenov, but a slim chance this will happen.

On May 01 2016 21:46 iakim322 wrote: Want to believe arlovski can pull this off but don't see how he doesn't get picked apart then prob tko'd. Going to be on Tumenov and little on Tuck and Madadi Can't bring myself to bet Struve/Silva. Both suck so much at this point

I wouldnt describe Overeem as picking apart anybody, its not how he fights.


Both these guys are glass chinned hard hitters with alike re-shaped styles by Jackson trying focusing on movement and not getting hit but with fundamentally different "bag of tricks", I think more often than not Overeem KOs Arlovski with a counter

On May 02 2016 00:23 jvilla777 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 01 2016 23:25 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On May 01 2016 23:11 jvilla777 wrote:   On May 01 2016 22:22 Stim_Abuser wrote: Why the confidence in Tumenov? Only fight I've seen his grappling tested in was the Alcantara fight where he was taken down several times and beat up there and lost a decision. Also he comes from a striking background. I do think Gunnar is way too small for WW though. Hopefully if he loses this he finally wises up and moves to LW. He's only a tiny bit bigger than Conor. because watch the gunnar nelson vs rick story fight I actually predicted Rick Story would wreck him along with a lot of other people. Failing to take down one of the best wrestlers in the division =/ unable to take down Tumenov. Rick Story is a beast and is a really tough fight for just about anybody besides Maia. yeah thats true. Nelson's latest previous fights vs stand up guys, he was initially striking vs Thatch then he knocked him down then submitted him, he did not really initiate, grapple or shoot for a take down, so he usually starts fighting stand up. Another example is the Rick Story fight where Nelson just kept getting tagged in these stand up exchanges. VS Tumenov then, well you get the idea if you watch Tumenov's latest previous fights. Obviously Nelson can win most likely by submitting Tumenov, but a slim chance this will happen.

The Thatch fight lasted 2 minutes... So your point is that Gunnar throws some punches before he tries to take guys down... like everyone else in MMA? He tried to take story down a bunch but Story stuffed him.

Not saying Gunnar will win here, just curious why people think Albert is a good bet at -170 against a good grappler when the only other time he's faced a grappler in the UFC he lost.

I like Tumenov though, his striking is fun to watch.

tumenov gonna crush face

Going big on Nelson (+150)

Arlovski is going to have a hell of a hard time with Overreem I think.

"Nick Hein injured, UFC seeks replacement opponent for Jon Tuck at Sunday's UFC Fight Night 87 event."

Sucks for Tuck. Since it's not within 1-2 days before the fight, the UFC will either find him a short notice opponent (which means he is facing a guy he knows nothing about), or they will pay him his show-money and not his win-money. When a fighter pulls out 1-2 days before an event, the other guy is usually paid his win-money and show-money for his troubles, but that's not the case in this type of situation, unless the UFC feels really bad for Tuck's financial situation (yeah right).

Overeem > Arlovski - Slight lean toward Reem after seeing how easily Arlovski went down to Miocic but it's a good matchup style wise for Andrei and I think the fact that they've trained together favors the guy who is less afraid to actually exchange (Andrei)

Struve v Silva - Pkm, terrible

Tumenov > Nelson - Tumenov if he can avoid the takedown will probably just tear up the lead leg and then beat that ass for 3 rounds, but if it goes to the mat early obv Tumenov is in trouble. Line seems right.

Randamine > Elmose

Krylov > Barroso

Kowalkievicz > Clarke - Clarke should have like 0 outs here.

Wade > Khabilov - Split decision seems imminent

Cedenblad > McClellan

Cabral > Medadi

Horiguchi > Seery - Seery got that Irish heart but Guchi is is ridiculously good and I could see him getting a finish

Edwards > Waters

Gates vs Sasaki - Slight lean Gates but who really knows

Bigfoot and Nelson my only bets

On May 03 2016 15:10 alejandicto wrote: Bigfoot and Nelson my only bets

I kind of like the logic behind those. Are you winning overall in UFC betting?
I've noticed you have a particular logic to all your bets. Just wondering if it works.

On May 03 2016 01:05 PuertoRican wrote:

Man these breakdowns suck they dont go anything beyond what we casuals discuss in here.

On May 04 2016 03:08 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 01:05 PuertoRican wrote: Man these breakdowns suck they dont go anything beyond what we casuals discuss in here.

I personally never watch them because it's all shit I already know, and Dan Hardy's co-host doesn't know anything about MMA, so it's basically Hardy doing everything by himself.

However, some of the episodes are kinda cool, but it's only when they're in the main studio with the large touch screen in the background where they can do a bunch of cool shit with a fight video. I don't remember if they're only in the main studio for PPV events or not, but I do know they do low budget episodes when they're on the road in Europe, just like they're doing in the video above.

On May 04 2016 00:49 Minsk wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 15:10 alejandicto wrote: Bigfoot and Nelson my only bets I kind of like the logic behind those. Are you winning overall in UFC betting? I've noticed you have a particular logic to all your bets. Just wondering if it works.

I like underdogs and parlays :D. And yes I am winning overall in MMA betting, not a lot, but I like to think I can see when an underdog is underrated against his opponent.

On May 04 2016 17:16 alejandicto wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2016 00:49 Minsk wrote:   On May 03 2016 15:10 alejandicto wrote: Bigfoot and Nelson my only bets I kind of like the logic behind those. Are you winning overall in UFC betting? I've noticed you have a particular logic to all your bets. Just wondering if it works. I like underdogs and parlays :D. And yes I am winning overall in MMA betting, not a lot, but I like to think I can see when an underdog is underrated against his opponent.

Yeah, you like value from underdogs that could likely/potentially be a coinflip. It's a pretty solid strategy. Since I didn't have the time to test it over a good sample, thanks for sharing.

If you're winning I will follow you on those bets, because I agree with the logic.

Also have Overeem ML and Horoguchi ML. Also have O1.5, but I'm worried about it now. I took it largely because were teammates, unlikely to want to murder each other.

On May 04 2016 03:08 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2016 01:05 PuertoRican wrote: Man these breakdowns suck they dont go anything beyond what we casuals discuss in here.

Maybe we're just professionals?

Only breakdowns I really like are Jack Slacks. I hear BJJ scout is good too but his videos are usually way too long for me.

On May 04 2016 19:51 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2016 03:08 Baalim wrote:   On May 03 2016 01:05 PuertoRican wrote: Man these breakdowns suck they dont go anything beyond what we casuals discuss in here. Maybe we're just professionals? Only breakdowns I really like are Jack Slacks. I hear BJJ scout is good too but his videos are usually way too long for me.

I like both, they are great JackSlack writes and uses GIFs.. have some sporadical videos but they are mainly about old time boxers like Willy Pep, BJJ Scout vids are really good too

Have a hard time seeing Arlovski beating Reem. He is just spamming his right hand this days and Alistair is too technical on the feet to let that get in. You can never be too sure with Overeem thought, as his ability to lose a fight out of nowhere is second to none.

Tumenov and Nelson - very fun match up, I think Tumenov will avoid the takedowns and smash Gunnar on the feet, but Nelson definitely is a live dog. He has sneaky stand up and if somehow the fight goes to the ground his edge there is huge.

I don't know how Bigfoot is still allowed to fight. What a piece of shit co main event. Struve as bad as he is should be taking this fight easy.

he is not Roy Nelson, you cant just prepare for the right hand and cruise to victory he throws hooks, straights uppercuts and mix it well with the left it wouldnt surprise me if he catches Overeem the fight is far from being one sided

Arlovski may outbox overeem, don't be surprised mother fuckers

If Arlovski wins, its not through outboxing Overreem, its through KOing him. After watching Overeem vs JDS, hes way too technical and experienced to be outboxed by Arlovski.

On May 05 2016 13:44 Minsk wrote: If Arlovski wins, its not through outboxing Overreem, its through KOing him. After watching Overeem vs JDS, hes way too technical and experienced to be outboxed by Arlovski.

Yeah Arlovski isnt remotely at the boxing level of Overeem but he is very explosive and I think there is a decent chance he connects and Overeem tends to collapse when hurt under pressure quickly

Depends on which Arlovski shows up.

Thug Arlovski version who destroyed Browne. Gave no fucks and just went hard. If he does this I give him an ok chance. 35, maybe even 40%

Or please don't hurt me Arlovski that showed up against Mir and Schaub I think he gets crushed badly. When he fights like this he is completely afraid to commit to anything.

Theres also the x-factor that Overeem is the best in the world at losing fights he shouldn't via being stupid.

On May 07 2016 07:54 Stim_Abuser wrote: Depends on which Arlovski shows up. Thug Arlovski version who destroyed Browne. Gave no fucks and just went hard. If he does this I give him an ok chance. 35, maybe even 40% Or please don't hurt me Arlovski that showed up against Mir and Schaub I think he gets crushed badly. When he fights like this he is completely afraid to commit to anything. Theres also the x-factor that Overeem is the best in the world at losing fights he shouldn't via being stupid.

Jackson and Wink coached Travis Browne perfectly to exploit Overeems guard, and now they know even more about him and they ditched Reem to coach Arlovski so I seriously doubt he is coming out with the wrong plan

On May 05 2016 13:59 PuertoRican wrote:

He posted this on his facebook

"Snart dags igen. Vill dela med mig av lite saker jag har kommit på under veckan. Tidigare camps så har jag slitit arslet av mig, haft ont i kroppen men fortsatt jobbat emot d. Jag har haft en tung viktnedgång. Jag har krigat med känslor innan match, tänk om jag förlorar då har jag gjort allt i onödan. Tänk om tänk om. Nervositeten har gjort sig påmind. Denna gång åkte jag 5 veckor innan match med fru barn å @jockegbgmma till albuquerqe. Vi tränade inte särskilt hårt. Men hade svin kul. Hela fightweek har jag bara glidit runt i Rotterdam å haft det skönt å skrattat. Vet inte om detta är bättre eller sämre det får man se på söndag kanske blir katastrof. Men poängen är att det spelar ingen roll för första gången har jag njutit hela vägen å ska även njuta på söndag. Livet är för kort för att gå å oroa sig å tänka på att alla resultat inte kommer gå din väg. Så på söndag på vinst eller förlust ska jag ha riktigt skoj hur än resultatet blir."

Quick translation: Previous camps hes been working his ass off and always felt beat up but pushed threw it, Tough weightcuts and lots of anxiousness about losing. This time he went to albuquerqe with his wife and kids and only had a 5 week camp and says he did not work that hard and its all about enyoing himself all the way up to and during the fight.

On May 07 2016 09:02 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2016 07:54 Stim_Abuser wrote: Depends on which Arlovski shows up. Thug Arlovski version who destroyed Browne. Gave no fucks and just went hard. If he does this I give him an ok chance. 35, maybe even 40% Or please don't hurt me Arlovski that showed up against Mir and Schaub I think he gets crushed badly. When he fights like this he is completely afraid to commit to anything. Theres also the x-factor that Overeem is the best in the world at losing fights he shouldn't via being stupid. Jackson and Wink coached Travis Browne perfectly to exploit Overeems guard, and now they know even more about him and they ditched Reem to coach Arlovski so I seriously doubt he is coming out with the wrong plan

Travis Browne only beat Overeem after Reem gassed out going for the kill. Many referees would've stopped that fight, as Travis was curled up in a ball against the cage, eating punches.

Travis did nothing against Overeem that made me think Jackson/Wink prepared him for the fight.

Yea that was more Reem gassing and being stupid than some master game plan. I mean the kick was a good one against Reems guard sure, but he threw it like 7 times in a row without connecting before it finally hit. That was more Reem being too gassed and dumb to stop it.

Gunnar looking more muscular and lean in this fight. Looks to actually be in great shape, by far the best of his career.

Andrei Arlovski (248) vs. Alistair Overeem (244)
Antonio Silva (266) vs. Stefan Struve (265)
Gunnar Nelson (170) vs. Albert Tumenov (170)
Anna Elmose (135) vs. Germaine de Randamie (135)
Francimar Barroso (204) vs. Nikita Krylov (205)
Heather Jo Clark (116) vs. Karolina Kowalkiewicz (115)
Rustam Khabilov (155) vs. Chris Wade (155)
Magnus Cedenblad (185) vs. Garreth McLellan (184)
Josh Emmett (156) vs. Jon Tuck (156)
Yan Cabral (156) vs. Reza Madadi (155)
Kyoji Horiguchi (125) vs. Neil Seery (126)
Leon Edwards (169.5) vs. Dominic Waters (170)
Willie Gates (125) vs. Ulka Sasaki (125)

bigfoot looks like another person with hair and beard

On May 07 2016 18:30 gebbstet wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2016 13:59 PuertoRican wrote: He posted this on his facebook "Snart dags igen. Vill dela med mig av lite saker jag har kommit på under veckan. Tidigare camps så har jag slitit arslet av mig, haft ont i kroppen men fortsatt jobbat emot d. Jag har haft en tung viktnedgång. Jag har krigat med känslor innan match, tänk om jag förlorar då har jag gjort allt i onödan. Tänk om tänk om. Nervositeten har gjort sig påmind. Denna gång åkte jag 5 veckor innan match med fru barn å @jockegbgmma till albuquerqe. Vi tränade inte särskilt hårt. Men hade svin kul. Hela fightweek har jag bara glidit runt i Rotterdam å haft det skönt å skrattat. Vet inte om detta är bättre eller sämre det får man se på söndag kanske blir katastrof. Men poängen är att det spelar ingen roll för första gången har jag njutit hela vägen å ska även njuta på söndag. Livet är för kort för att gå å oroa sig å tänka på att alla resultat inte kommer gå din väg. Så på söndag på vinst eller förlust ska jag ha riktigt skoj hur än resultatet blir." Quick translation: Previous camps hes been working his ass off and always felt beat up but pushed threw it, Tough weightcuts and lots of anxiousness about losing. This time he went to albuquerqe with his wife and kids and only had a 5 week camp and says he did not work that hard and its all about enyoing himself all the way up to and during the fight.

He looked good during the weigh-in. Hopefully his new relaxed mindset allows him to perform better.

Bigfoot looks tight

THE REEM SEASON 4 EPISODE 1: LEGACY

https://vimeo.com/165676287

Anyone else find it weight that Arlovski weighs 4 more pounds than Reem? I know reem has shrank coming off the sauce but he still looks pretty god damn thick and they're the same height right?

On May 08 2016 03:57 Stim_Abuser wrote: Anyone else find it weight that Arlovski weighs 4 more pounds than Reem? I know reem has shrank coming off the sauce but he still looks pretty god damn thick and they're the same height right?

On May 08 2016 06:05 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2016 03:57 Stim_Abuser wrote: Anyone else find it weight that Arlovski weighs 4 more pounds than Reem? I know reem has shrank coming off the sauce but he still looks pretty god damn thick and they're the same height right?

lol to be fair Arlovski wans't always this big. Back when he fought Fedor he was 237, so I guess I still pictured him back when he was much leaner. He has added a lot of muscle tho.

On May 08 2016 07:14 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2016 06:05 PuertoRican wrote:   On May 08 2016 03:57 Stim_Abuser wrote: Anyone else find it weight that Arlovski weighs 4 more pounds than Reem? I know reem has shrank coming off the sauce but he still looks pretty god damn thick and they're the same height right? lol to be fair Arlovski wans't always this big. Back when he fought Fedor he was 237, so I guess I still pictured him back when he was much leaner. He has added a lot of muscle tho.

Arlovski was a lot more muscular and lean back in his first UFC run.

While he does still have plenty of muscle, he also put on more body fat, which is natural as you get older, even if you're in-shape. For example, his stomach is soft, and he probably gained weight in his thighs, which are two areas many guys gain fat first.

Another bet for me:

Horiguchi by TKO/KO (+370), I like a lot that line.

1. Randamie, Gates, Krylov, Overeem, Struve ($27 team)
2. Arlovski, Nelson, Sasaki, Silva, Tuck
3. Arlovski, Cedenblad, Gates, Krylov, Struve
4. Randamie, Krylov, Nelson, Overeem, Struve
5. Cedenblad, Krylov, Overeem, Sasaki, Struve
6. Krylov, Overeem, Struve, Tuck, Tumenov
7. Cedenblad, Gates, Krylov, Struve, Tuck
8. Cedenblad, Krylov, Overeem, Struve, Tuck
9. Gates, Horiguchi, Krylov, Overeem, Tuck
10. Randamie, Gates, Krylov, Overeem, Struve
11. Randamie, Emmett, Gates, Krylov, Overeem

Willie Gates...

What a fucking bum...

On May 08 2016 14:23 alejandicto wrote: Another bet for me: Horiguchi by TKO/KO (+370), I like a lot that line.

I like that too.

LOL that fuck didnt want to KO his fucking friend. He was almost out like 3 times in last Round

On May 08 2016 15:53 alejandicto wrote: LOL that fuck didnt want to KO his fucking friend. He was almost out like 3 times in last Round

Horiguchi always slows down his striking after the first half of the fight. At 2:50 of Round 2, Horiguchi was still fast, but not nearly as fast as he was in R1.

Also, Seery has one of the best chins in MMA, so yeah...

Yeah but in third round he had the chance in three ocations to finish the fight and he didnt go for it. :@

Krylov with the submission after Barroso started to slow down and quickly tapped to a RnC that was possibly on the chin.

I haven't won any bets so far

Gates, wade and fkn tuck... I have de randamie, tumenov n arlovski left

Edit: unbelievable how much rubbish they show between fights in these fox card

On May 08 2016 19:08 jvilla777 wrote: I haven't won any bets so far Gates, wade and fkn tuck... I have de randamie, tumenov n arlovski left Edit: unbelievable how much rubbish they show between fights in these fox card

Due to Krylov getting an early R2 finish, this card is still on schedule.

They only had 1 fight during the first 50 minutes of this main card. I guess they expected Krylov to finish fast.

Randamie vs. Elmose = looked like a grown woman beating on a chubby little girl.

That last knee was brutal

Go Nelson!

Yess!! :D

GUNNAR NELSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Told you noobs

People get way too overhyped on strikers who haven't really had their grappling tested yet.

Gunnar did much better striking than expected.

I really want to see Gunnar at LW, think he'd be a top guy. He's just too small for the top guys at WW. He wouldn't even be a huge LW, about average size.

I'm eating my words right now

Pretty sure I bricked everything too lol, have overeem but only in a parlay so I'm dead

I LOVE the way Gunnar positions his hips in side control and makes his body feel light/weak/off balance. His opponents never expect his left leg when it whips over them like a bullet, and he secures full mount.

Great performance from Gunnar. Improved striking and his already legit BJJ.

I just hate against gunnar cause I hate anyone/thing related to mcgregor. Otherwise ida probably passed. Just realized I have my biggest bet on struve still, prob gonna brick

Damien Maia is all I can think about after seeing that Gunni performance.

Tumenov didn't fight very well though, I expected him to be more patient and pick apart Gunni at distance instead of leaping in and getting taken down like that. Props to Nelson tho, obviously his striking was getting to him or he wouldn't have made those mistakes.

On May 08 2016 19:59 traxamillion wrote: I just hate against gunnar cause I hate anyone/thing related to mcgregor. Otherwise ida probably passed. Just realized I have my biggest bet on struve still, prob gonna brick

That's pretty ridiculous since Gunnar is like the complete opposite of Conor. Super quiet, reserved, humble, nice etc.

I think your chances with Struve are pretty good, but it's obviously a massively high variance fight.

Got Reem and Struve/

Tumenov got fully mounted twice, just about anyone is fucked after the 1st one. Only reason to roll over on ur stomach is to save urself from a face smashing which gunnar was not putting on him. Just a mediocre elbow game. He shoulda tried to wait it out from the bottom and knock him out in Rd3 as his only out. Giving up his back like that from full mount was straight suicide with that much time left.

On May 08 2016 20:00 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2016 19:59 traxamillion wrote: I just hate against gunnar cause I hate anyone/thing related to mcgregor. Otherwise ida probably passed. Just realized I have my biggest bet on struve still, prob gonna brick That's pretty ridiculous since Gunnar is like the complete opposite of Conor. Super quiet, reserved, humble, nice etc.

And Gunnar actually knows what he's doing on the ground, both in defensive and offensive positions.

Go Bigfoot!

LOL

lmao!

RIP Bigfoot...

Why even bother making other betside when that is available. Dumb

Man you just gotta feel bad for bigfoot. He legit needs trt because of his condition, and without it he's been instant KO'd in 3 of his last 4 fights. Really hope he retires.

That's by far the cleanest punch I've ever seen Struve throw.

I know it's Bigfoot but I don't think people will realize what a difference in speed and technique that punch was from prior Struve strikes.

LOL fucking bigfoot xD

Bruhhhhh....

Bigfoot's look nearly convinced me to place a bet on him after the weigh ins then I just remembered his fight vs hunt with no TRT, and Struve vs noguiera

Bigfoot may as well keep fighting to provide for his offspring.

Dude's heart will explode from gigantism long before his brain goes from the brain damage.

In other news, I feel like an asshole.

I did so bad on this card, I have arlovski left which I think is gonna miss

ALISTAIR OVEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice :O

IF Reem ever gets a fight vs verdum, miocic or even prolly Cain I'm betting everything I have against him

BTW they need to take about 90% of these female fights off the cards.

Rousey blah blah blah

BUT seriously make a fucking ufcwnba already

Why u think ppl hate flyweights? People wanna see knockouts and people getting fucking hurt

People didn't go to the roman coliseum to watch people hug

On May 08 2016 20:47 traxamillion wrote: Why u think ppl hate flyweights? People wanna see knockouts and people getting fucking hurt People didn't go to the roman coliseum to watch people hug

The champion finishes fights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetri...8fighter%29#Mixed_martial_arts_record

On May 08 2016 20:41 traxamillion wrote: IF Reem ever gets a fight vs verdum, miocic or even prolly Cain I'm betting everything I have against him

Why? Outside of the first like 2 minutes where it looked like he was thrown off by Arlovskis bull rush, he looked good. Completely controlled the fight and didn't allow Arlovski to land anything at all. And that was against an Arlovski who fought to his full potential, not scared Arlovski.

Overeem is a tough fight for all those guys you listed. His grappling is very, very good and so is his striking.

Got 1st place in today's DraftKing event; however, it's a 15-way tie, and the prize pool isn't as big as usual, so what originally looked like an $800 score ends up being a $201 for 1st place. Also won $55 in additional minor placings.

This is the 4th time or so that I've gotten 1st place and had to share the prize with several people. I'm still searching for my first big score, which is anything over $500. I still haven't done well in a PPV event on DK. Most of my scores are $100+.

Good job man!!

Is that DK freeroll? Wasn't there a big scandal on DK about cheaters?

On May 08 2016 21:23 Stim_Abuser wrote: Is that DK freeroll? Wasn't there a big scandal on DK about cheaters?

It's for real money.

I'm not aware of any scandal on DraftKings.

On May 08 2016 20:54 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2016 20:47 traxamillion wrote: Why u think ppl hate flyweights? People wanna see knockouts and people getting fucking hurt People didn't go to the roman coliseum to watch people hug The champion finishes fights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetri...8fighter%29#Mixed_martial_arts_record

that would be a sample size of 1 sir; not a good indicator of general trends. you know what i mean. All the DFS pros stack 10 of the same lineups figuring each will be +ev even though winnings decline from 1-through whatever since they make way better picks than the field. It just shits on the casuals

nice hit tho

not sure if trains are a big a things as they are in the huge GPPs in the 3 main sports either

I just think arlovski is pretty dam washed up and reem fights like his face is made of glass (which it is) so i just don't see him beating those guys in any sort of brawl. just needs to land his 1 hitter quitter. there is a reason his sig strike % is 75% while the average of the division is 46%

He isn't going to brawl with them... Since his last KO loss he's pretty extremely hard to hit. He's stopped being a stationary tank and has learned that you can't just cover up in MMA like in K-1. He moves around a lot and is very hard to hit. He is very defensive and picks his shots now which is absolutely the perfect strategy for a guy with a mediocre chin who hits like a tank.

Arlovski fought the best fight he could tonight, he came out very aggressive and went after Reem. Arlovski's offense when he isn't scared is still really good, and he couldn't do shit to Reem.

And Reems grappling is beastly.

Obviously he's always one shot away from a loss, but skill wise I'd say Reem is probably the best HW right now.

I went here!! Was awesome. Made a bunch of money off of the main event by betting on Overeem. I thought Arlovski's gameplan with rushing in early was good, but difficult/impossible to keep doing that over time. I hope Reem will become a champion.

Overeem is good, he can probably beat mostly anyone except Cain. Arlovski is better than before, but nowhere really. He doesn't have anything special, with a weak chin and bad technique, what he has isn't enough against the top-level fighters.

overeem seems like a terrible matchup for cain I think that might be his easiest fight

Seems the other way to me, after a few minutes he wouldn't be able to really technically counter and then its gg.