UFC FN 84: Silva vs. Bisping - Page 5

On February 27 2016 23:55 Minsk wrote: Analyzing this fight by rounds scoring is ridiculous. lol.

How else does one analyze the score?

Only played DraftKings for this event.

It's been a few months since my last decent cash. Too bad Tom Breese laid an egg.

Great fight but really annoyed by the outcome.

Anderson lost the fight by standing on the fence for the majority of round 4. Still I give the round to him as he absolutely mauled Bisping at the end of the round.

Obv his reactions and chin are not the same, but he was still able to create some magic in the octagon, the flying knee when he KO'd Bisping and the upkick in the 5th round were amazing.

Fuck this happened this morning? Oops

On February 27 2016 23:34 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2016 23:30 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On February 26 2016 08:00 Baalim wrote:   On February 26 2016 01:52 Stim_Abuser wrote: So was Nick Diaz. plodding striker who comes forward and likes to block with his chin and has zero wrestling. And Silva managed to look less than impressive. Since then he's been busted for roids so its some what reasonable to assume he will be fighting without them as the risk of another dirty test is gigantic. Not to mention he's had another year+ off and he's almost 41 now. I also think it's pretty likely he was on steroids for his entire career. Wouldn't be surprised if the Silva that shows up is a bum version of the previous silva. Even then he should still be the favorite to beat bisping with just his technique and timing. Dunno by how much though. Predicting people coming back from a lot of shit is really hard. Yes Diaz was a good matchup too and Silva won (in a mediocre fashion) but Diaz is better at Boxing than Bisping and had way more outs than Bisping... How do you see Bisping winning this fight? Like that Justed tuned mid 4th round and he was mauling Bisping and on the 5th absolutely destroyed him too... what the fuck happened on the first 3?

Basically he was clowning a lot, and couldn't hit Bisping with any counters. He got rocked a couple times too. Honestly the only reason the fight was even close was because Michael got distracted by his mouth piece on the floor and was pointing to herb dean to pick it up, and Silva nailed him with a flying knee. Bisping had dominated the 14:30 seconds of the fight up until then.

just watched the fight and that flying knee really messed up Bisping. I think Silva thought they would hand over the fight to him since he was getting more and more confident, im mixed about his clowning because it does work for him most times and throws off opponents (but not top 3 guys). I don't think he'll survive rockhold or a weidman rematch though but it's great to see him get his flow again. stricter testing really made a lot of fighters bodies look softer.

That front kick in round 4 was a really good shot and in retrospect, with Bisping being pretty badly hurt by that flying knee at the end of round 3...really surprised Bisping wasn't hurt even more than he was by that front kick. But good thing Silva is Silva and didn't press it and just did his usual standing around clowning stuff. Not sure what people are talking about the 'mauling' of Bisping in round 4. Anderson literally did nothing in round 4 besides that one really good shot which is ridiculous considering Bisping came out of his stool at the start of rd. 4 looking pretty wobbly. Thought it was a pretty clear 1,2,4 for Bisping

Really dislike when a fighter presses action when the other fighter is clearly hurt by an illegal blow (Travis Browne v Mitrione) or just completely distracted by some other factor even though in this case, it was a pretty minor one of a mouthpiece being needed to be put back in. But I couldn't believe Bisping, with all his fighting experience, kept making the mistake of not protecting yourself at all times. I wonder what the general reaction would've been if Bisping was so hurt by that kinda bs flying knee...that he came out for the 4th round and just got KO'd right away from the first shot...having still felt the knee. Would people be celebrating a flashy KO for Silva or crying foul or somewhere in the middle? Because yeah...really...even though Bisping hadn't really done real damage...he really had won like 13 of the first 14 minutes of that fight until that.

fucking round by round scoring... it works in 12 rounds fights like boxing, not in 3-5 round fights at all.


typical Silva... ffs... he is potentially the best fighter ever but also the worst mind ever, like a Urajah Hall

On February 28 2016 02:18 Baalim wrote: fucking round by round scoring... it works in 12 rounds fights like boxing, not in 3-5 round fights at all. typical Silva... ffs... he is potentially the best fighter ever but also the worst mind ever, like a Urajah Hall

You realize Bisping dominated like 90% of that fight right? And if not for Bisping getting distracted by the mouth piece Silva probably gets completely shut out. He had nothing for Bisping until that knee, and then he was fighting a guy who just got knocked out. And still managed to lose the 4th round.

On February 28 2016 03:45 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2016 02:18 Baalim wrote: fucking round by round scoring... it works in 12 rounds fights like boxing, not in 3-5 round fights at all. typical Silva... ffs... he is potentially the best fighter ever but also the worst mind ever, like a Urajah Hall You realize Bisping dominated like 90% of that fight right? And if not for Bisping getting distracted by the mouth piece Silva probably gets completely shut out. He had nothing for Bisping until that knee, and then he was fighting a guy who just got knocked out. And still managed to lose the 4th round.

I just watched the fight twice and no Bisping didnt dominated 90% of the time what are you talking about? the only time he looked remotely threatening was at the end of the 2nd round that was less than 1 minute when he stunned silva, besides that he landed some weak punches and leg kickls here and there and the only reason he was connecting was because Silva for no fucking reason keep walking back to the cage staying there eating weak punches and losing rounds.

If this is the face of somebody who dominates 90% of a fight, we have very different definitions of domination




BTW Im not saying Silva won he lost 1-2 and arguably 4th

The scoring system is ridiculous for MMA, the fights are too shorts to be judged by rounds and the scoring should be heavily based in damage, that way we get rid of lay & pray, of pushing people against the cage etc

So are we doing 209 judging with visible damage?

Threatening doesn't matter. He completely controlled the first two rounds while Silva did nothing, controlled the 3rd round until the last 10 seconds, controlled all of the 4th round besides the front kick, then lost the 5th.

Bisping dominated most of the fight because Silva did absolutely nothing for the first 4 rounds besides the flying knee and front kick. He mostly sat against the fence and ate punches.

On February 28 2016 04:52 Stim_Abuser wrote: So are we doing 209 judging with visible damage? Threatening doesn't matter. He completely controlled the first two rounds while Silva did nothing, controlled the 3rd round until the last 10 seconds, controlled all of the 4th round besides the front kick, then lost the 5th. Bisping dominated most of the fight because Silva did absolutely nothing for the first 4 rounds besides the flying knee and front kick. He mostly sat against the fence and ate punches.

I didnt think any of em were significant. The most dmg bisping did imho is the eye poke. Silva just lost balance in some of the knockdowns and most of bispings strikes were parried.

You guys are ridiculous if you think Silva " deserved " to win that fight lol.

I gave Bisping rounds 1/2/4. All the rounds seemed pretty clear to me.

Bisping kept moving, striking, and did a great job at not letting Anderson get comfortable and dictate the pace of the fight. A big issue Anderson has was that Bisping was never baited into anything he was doing up against the cage.

If Bisping never got hit with that knee, he would've won a more dominant decision.

On February 28 2016 04:52 Stim_Abuser wrote: So are we doing 209 judging with visible damage? Threatening doesn't matter. He completely controlled the first two rounds while Silva did nothing, controlled the 3rd round until the last 10 seconds, controlled all of the 4th round besides the front kick, then lost the 5th. Bisping dominated most of the fight because Silva did absolutely nothing for the first 4 rounds besides the flying knee and front kick. He mostly sat against the fence and ate punches.

Not only visible damage, it would require many factors, but I think the boxing scoring simply doesnt work for MMA.

I think you are simply misusing the term dominate, Bisping didnt do shit, the only time he connected clean was when he stunned Silva, besides that he only grazed and partially landed when throwing hundreds of punches against a moron who insisted on putting his back against the cage all the fight unlike Silva, that every time that landed was a clean hard shot that smashed Bispings face.

But again Im not arguing that Silva won or deserved to win at all... if anything Silva deserves to be slapped by every attendee that paid money to watch him waste all his skill in the most pathetic way possible once again.

Exactly how I had it.

Hilarious interview.