UFC on FOX 17: dos Anjos vs. Cerrone 2 - Page 3

On December 18 2015 22:36 soberstone wrote: Myles Jury ?@FuryJury 2m2 minutes ago There was no problem w/ scale. I made weight & Charles still weighed 5lbs over in back on 3 scales (AGAIN). He didn't try to cut after. What a lame ass fighter, quits in fights all the time and didn't even try to make weight. Hope Jury comes to fight smart and well.

Weird, considering Joe Silva said Oliveira did a pre-weigh-in on the scale in the back and he was fine. You can hear Silva say it while Charles is on stage wondering what's going on.


Joe Silva: "That's impossible... ...they pre-weighed him in the back, he's not 5 pounds over."

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Charles Oliveira's official weight is 150.5 pounds, and he forfeits 20% of his prize purse.

Danny Castillo's official weight is 155.8 pounds.

That is weird. I trust Joe Silva, but if you are Chuck O. there's no way you don't know you are way off track when cutting weight and then missing by 5. There was probably a shitty scale backstage that was getting stuck on the proper weight or something cuz Castillo had the same reaction.

Also a side-note, if you go back and watch the 3 weigh-ins prior to 194 weekend, the scales were blatantly light every time. Everyone was weighing in at championship weight, some a pound under - particularly the Australia event (I thought they were just making sure Rousey made weight that one time but than it continued for 2 more weekends). Don't really care just found it interesting.

There's speculation on Sherdog that Cerrone might be injured. Overeem showed concern for something that happened to Cerrone, and he subtly gestures to Cerrone's right side or his lower body around: https://youtu.be/iSh8jCSWTF8?t=7m15s


This matches up with something that I noticed yesterday during the weigh-in, which is that Cerrone was holding his hand at a weird angle, almost like he hurt his thumb. So if we take Overeem's concern into question and how he pointed to the right side/lower portion of Cerrone's body, it can either be a leg issue, or a right hand issue: https://youtu.be/FzR1pORdJGw?t=34m35s

This might be nothing at all, but who knows... Cerrone would NEVER tell anyone he is hurt and give up the title shot he has been waiting many years for, especially since he will never earn a title shot again if he loses today.

My bets pre-live betting:

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Final Pre-Fight Bets:

Excited for this card from a betting perspective because I think the fight dynamics allow for some pretty cool sharp profitable sharp angles, hence all the props.

Straight:
RDA > Cerrone SU -200 $200.00
Cerrone > RDA SU 250 $100.00
Overeem > Dos Santos SU 275 $200.00
Diaz > Johnson SU 425 $50.00
Jury > Oliveria SU -120 $550.00
Markos > Kowalkiewicz SU -170 $170.00
Marquardt > Dolloway SU 350 $50.00
Schevenko > Kaufman SU 185 $100.00
Miller > Ayers SU 115 $75.00
Luque > Hassan SU 100 $100.00

O/U:
Jury/Oliveria Under 2.5 Rounds O/U -120 $250
Dolloway / Marquardt Under 1.5 Rounds O/U 140 $50.00
Samman / McCrory Over 1.5 Rounds O/U -130 $130.00
Lentz / Castillo Over 2.5 Rounds O/U -200 $200.00

Props:
RDA wins by 5 Round Decision PROP 125 $250.00
Cerrone wins via KO/TKO/DQ PROP 415 $50.00
Cerrone wins in Rd 4 PROP 1,850 $25.00
Cerrone wins in Rd 5 PROP 2,350 $25.00
Overeem wins in Rd 1 PROP 1,025 $25.00
Johnson wins via 3 Round Decision PROP -125 $125.00
Johnson / Diaz Goes 3-Round Distance PROP -140 $140.00
Markos vs Kowalkiewicz Goes 3-Round Distance PROP -250 $225.00
Marqaurdt wins in Rd 1 PROP 915 $25.00
Schevenko wins in Rd 2 PROP 909 $25.00
Samman wins via 3 Round Decision PROP 365 $50.00
Lentz wins by 3 Round Decision PROP 198 $150.00
Lentz wins in Rd 3 PROP 1,425 $25.00
Castillo (Scorecards = No Action) PROP -110 $220.00
Miller (Scorecards = No Action) PROP -205 $205.00
Usman wins by 3 Round Decision PROP 105 $75.00
Edwards wins by TKO/KO/DQ PROP 500 $25.00
Edwards (Scorecards = No Action) PROP 121 $100.00
Ngannou wins by TKO/KO/DQ PROP 190 $100.00

Parlays:
Myles Jury (-150) + Not Santos Rd 1 (-145) PL 182 $100.00
Not Lentz ITD (-515) + Not Hassan ITD (-290) PL -165 $400.00
Overeem (+275) + Markos (-190) + Jury (-150) + Schvenko (185) + Castillo/Lentz o 1.5 (-200) + Miller (105) + Luque (-115) PL 15,529 $25.00

On December 19 2015 19:52 PuertoRican wrote: My bets pre-live betting: [spoiler]I have way too many bets on this card pre-fight, which is rare for me. I got carried away for some reason. Anyway, I plan to live bet a lot as usual, especially in the 3 spots I mention below: - I bet Hassan's line without knowing anything about his opponent, and now Hassan is the underdog.

Caught a round of Hassan's fight on TUF randomly one day. Decided he was really really terrible at MMA in about 12 seconds. Have no idea who his opponent is but I can't imagine laying money on Hassan in a fight unless he was fighting in RFA or something

Btw why did you like Tamdan so much? Just curious. I felt very neutral to the line.

WOW!

Ngannou with an UPPERCUT FROM HELL!

Great start to the card.

On December 19 2015 20:39 iakim322 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2015 19:52 PuertoRican wrote: My bets pre-live betting: [spoiler]I have way too many bets on this card pre-fight, which is rare for me. I got carried away for some reason. Anyway, I plan to live bet a lot as usual, especially in the 3 spots I mention below: - I bet Hassan's line without knowing anything about his opponent, and now Hassan is the underdog. Btw why did you like Tamdan so much? Just curious. I felt very neutral to the line.

I like Tamdan's skills, chin, striking, and power. Also, the odds, especially at +161, is way off.

Since I know what Samman has to offer, I like Tamdan in this spot.

Bookmaker line movement

Cerrone +160
RDA -185

Overeem +211
JDS -254

Diaz +345
MJ -425

Shevchenko +120
Kaufman -140

McCrory +170
Samman -200

On December 18 2015 01:31 soberstone wrote: FWIW .....

Okay and I might come off really naive, well I am, considering the topic and not aware of how exactly steroid cycles work, but If RDA has to cycle it well and the cycle takes a year he will definitely fail soon. I mean its not like the UFC will "allow" him to just fight once per year, at one point he ll be put under pressure where he could either fake an injury which would still lead to an interim title or force him into a situation where he s exposed. Now I know that probably the average fighter doesn't think into such depth as in what will happen in XX amount of months and even taking such a risk might seem justified in ones eyes, but still ... :/
Anyways I guess we ll see today and in his next fight whenever it is. Would not be surprised if you are absolutely right, problem is you cant prove it which doesn't prove you re wrong though

gg hassan

Dominant win for Usman.

Props to Edwards for working on his TDD and movement on the ground; he probably would've been submitted if he didn't work with AKA for this fight.

Was about to blind follow you guys on Shevchenko. A little less blind now. Just saw her last fight and she's actually really fluid. Not great that she has a tko loss to shitty Carmouche but it was a really long time ago so I imagine she was still getting used to MMA

On December 19 2015 21:59 iakim322 wrote: Was about to blind follow you guys on Shevchenko. A little less blind now. Just saw her last fight and she's actually really fluid. Not great that she has a tko loss to shitty Carmouche but it was a really long time ago so I imagine she was still getting used to MMA

I didn't see the fight, but other people said the loss to Carmouche was due to a cut.

Since Carmouche is a wrestler, she probably got Shevchenko down and sliced her with elbows.

Sigh...

Bitch ass eye pokes...

lol buffer trying to hype the no contest? :D

What a terrible terrible fight. Nik Lentz looks slower than Roy Nelson. Danny Castillo only slightly faster

Nik Lentz set a high pace, and he moved back up to 155 for this fight.

Danny Castillo lost ANOTHER split-decision! 3 split-decisions in his past 4 fights.

Just got home to see that the Lentz Castillo fight went exactly as expected.

Up big so far.

Pissed that Miller got NC'ed, looked like that was a fight he was going to win just reading play by play.

BtSports using the Ronda knockout to promote their social media, nice

On December 19 2015 21:59 iakim322 wrote: Was about to blind follow you guys on Shevchenko. A little less blind now. Just saw her last fight and she's actually really fluid. Not great that she has a tko loss to shitty Carmouche but it was a really long time ago so I imagine she was still getting used to MMA

She beat JJ 3 times in Muai Thai matches. Her striking accolades, combined with Kaufman slowing down fight by fight, and Kaufman's style as a high-volume forward-moving striker, combined with what I've heard about Schevchenko, made it a slam dunk bet at +185. I still have never seen her fight TBH. Excited to see what she's got.