Strike Against Changing of PokerStars VIP-program.

On November 11 2015 09:07 dogmeat wrote: Show nested quote + On November 11 2015 05:53 diggerflopboat wrote: 1) Website: https://wallet.counterwallet.io/# 2) "create new wallet" (save password!) 3) copy/paste post "public address" (my address) on forum 4) receive Naj Coin THIS is what rallies a non-cooperative group and THIS is what Amaya fears because their business model cannot follow. 1) Website: https://wallet.counterwallet.io/# 2) "create new wallet" (save password!) 3) copy/paste post "public address" (my address) on forum 4) receive Naj Coin 5) repeat infinite naj coin!

dear child. Do you have anything to contribute to this discussion? To this community? To poker?

Do you have anything constructive to add? Any proof of actual work? Are you trying to better our situation? Do you have anything to add?

You are shit. You have nothing, you are nothing. This is why you post nothing but ridicule. I look forward to the mods here banning me, and letting a pos like you continue to post. This community can become you. I don't want anything to do with pos like you. You are an infant.

as a leader of ongoing poker revolution and moral authority you should really watch your language, you dont want to let ppl down!

dogmeat s just skeptical till proven otherwise
there s no need to flame an innocent troll post

Problem with your ideas are that they are high resource demanding, but work only theoretically, don't expect ppl to jump on your wagon. There s a reason theories need practical proof, otherwise physics for example would be much more developed

On November 11 2015 12:34 dogmeat wrote: as a leader of ongoing poker revolution and moral authority you should really watch your language, you dont want to let ppl down!

You are a fucking moron. A total fucking moron. Do something with your life. Don't be a waste of skin. Same idiot that walks around telling people bitcoin is a scam. Leader of a revolution? Dude. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. Perfect example of the type of person that won't accomplish shit fuck all in his life, and all you can do is try to disrupt others attempts. Really the sad part here is the mods and community members that aren't stupid like you, the peoples here that are smart enough to know better but don't speak up vs pieces of shit scumbags like yourself.

Fuck the mods here, and fuck EVERY single community member for letting ignorant low life peoples like you control the destiny of our game.

YOU SIR, ARE A NOBODY NOTHING PIECE OF SHIT. Trying to stomp on others because you realize they are putting effort into something. I'm not contributing to this community any-more, its a disgrace if you are here.

On November 11 2015 15:16 Spitfiree wrote: dogmeat s just skeptical till proven otherwise there s no need to flame an innocent troll post Problem with your ideas are that they are high resource demanding, but work only theoretically, don't expect ppl to jump on your wagon. There s a reason theories need practical proof, otherwise physics for example would be much more developed

Dogmeat is the EXACT reason why our game has been destroyed, because forums are filled with these idiots and peoples like you that stick up with there ignorance. Dogmeat is a low life. All they can do to justify there lack of ability is to channel their negative naysayer attitude on other peoples. They will never accomplish anything because they are too scared to try. They never outgrew their childish mentality.

The same idiot that would say bitcoin could never be a real money. The same moron that will NEVER under what money ACTUALLY is. The same idiot that think since its cloudy today it must be cloudy tomorrow, the same piece of shit that will tell you that gold will always be a safe hedge. I'm not trying to be mean and nasty, I am actually pointing out that dogmeat has a low IQ.Thats why the only contribution they can make is a gif. Not capable of doing something constructive in their life.

the autism is real strong with this one

On November 11 2015 15:16 Spitfiree wrote: Problem with your ideas are that they are high resource demanding, but work only theoretically, don't expect ppl to jump on your wagon. There s a reason theories need practical proof, otherwise physics for example would be much more developed

There is no problem. I just enjoy highlighting the peoples that do no have the mental capability of having a rational discussion that involves critical thinking (and reading!). None of what I have wrote is purely theoretical, go check out the real experiment bitcoin. Can't really argue anymore can you? Exchanges merging with every major exchange in the world, every government having meetings about how to approach it, every economics news media discussing it, crypto currency classes and degrees taught in every school. Ignorance does not make it not true.

Think about this, if you have the capacity. We need distribution, and who do we want to distribute our new network to? Dogmeat? Nope. They are too stupid. Naj coin, for example, has already been handed out to a small hand full of players. What type of peoples are they? What is the difference between Dogmeat and these peoples that take the time to read discuss, learn and try?

Do you understand now? It's a very simple and perfect process to weed out the less intelligent peoples. There is nothing broken about it. There are peoples in this world that don't have the capacity to understand concepts that require two steps of thinking. We don't want them involved.

On November 11 2015 15:36 uiCk wrote: the autism is real strong with this one

Fuck the mods here for allowing this. Autism? No. You are a coward, and you post this because you don't have the guts to say it to my face. You are spineless, and so are the mods here for allowing this attack.

Isn't it funny, how with one sentence I can tell your cognitive ability, logic, and reason skills are incredibly lacking? ONE sentence I can tell you are a moron. You want some help? I well help explain math to you so that its not so hard for you in school.

On November 11 2015 15:36 uiCk wrote: the autism is real strong with this one

Lord knows you would never post this if it was only you. The only reason you stand up to say something is because you believe others will support you-COWARD! There is no content to your post, it is purely meant as disruptive and negative. Any idiot can do that. Any idiot can act like this. You aren't capable. Tell us what money is? Tell us why bitcoin is a multi billion dollar asset. Tell us about gold and why it is valuable.

You don't have a clue, and it takes one sentence from you to tell how ignorant and lacking your intelligence is.

You keep calling me a poop poop head sir, keep doing it. Its all you will ever do

The History of Money and Playing Cards in “Canada”: https://thewealthofchips.wordpress.co...of-money-and-playing-cards-in-canada/

MANY times over the history of man we have used the introduction of a currency to solve social crisis' that arise EXACTLY in the form the players face today. In Canada's earlier history we used playing cards as the introduction of transferable utility to create the liquidity needed to jump start the economy. It is EXACTLY what is needed. There is NO other solution to this problem. And so I find it quite useful to have sorted out all of the ignorant players from the communities and masses.

Ignorant will laugh; Wise will understand.

I've done my homework. What you call autism is simply science, study, and critical thinking. READ.

It's not autism. Hes just a child.

Im not questioning crypto currency as im not educated enough on the topic and don't give fucks about it at this point. I was referring to the ideal money -poker idea. I'm not judging your idea as good or bad as im not capable of that either as there are many things I have to inform myself about before being able to comment in greater depth. However from what I do understand instantly the biggest leak in the idea arises :
You expect people that have a steady XX$/hr rate playing on a stable platform with a .. well formally stable currency ( there s no real stable currency in current financial system but w/e ) to go and try something completely uncertain, after thousands of hours spent working towards that stability.
Why would they throw that? Surely the theoretical following results of the success of the idea would be quite beneficial, but there are so many arguments to be made before that actually happening, that its quite unlikely many would follow such path

I was 100% sure I would see digger posting about Najcoin in this thread... you did not disappoint lol

On November 11 2015 17:16 Spitfiree wrote: Im not questioning crypto currency as im not educated enough on the topic and don't give fucks about it at this point. I was referring to the ideal money -poker idea. I'm not judging your idea as good or bad as im not capable of that either as there are many things I have to inform myself about before being able to comment in greater depth. However from what I do understand instantly the biggest leak in the idea arises : You expect people that have a steady XX$/hr rate playing on a stable platform with a .. well formally stable currency ( there s no real stable currency in current financial system but w/e ) to go and try something completely uncertain, after thousands of hours spent working towards that stability. Why would they throw that? Surely the theoretical following results of the success of the idea would be quite beneficial, but there are so many arguments to be made before that actually happening, that its quite unlikely many would follow such path

You are educated and smart, you see and ask the correct questions. You see and understand the difficulty of both creating and effective rake standard and/or creating a money that has a stable value. VERY few peoples could get to the point you just ask and understand it. I do wish to find peoples like you, first to show that the triffin dilemma exists in poker, and 2nd to show it has been solved. Cheers, you nailed it!

Originally Posted by Wiki The Triffin dilemma or paradox is the conflict of economic interests that arises between short-term domestic and long-term international objectives for countries whose currencies serve as global reserve currencies. I want us to collectively be able to understand and describe the problem that Dnegs and the rest of the community faces today in regards to recent rake policy changes announced by the status quo site. An interesting excerpt from recently leaked conversations with dnegs and others can help us illustrate this point: Quote: /2015 22:05:26] MouldyOnions: i believe you should adjust the rake depending on how beatable the games are. so in a game where everyone is equal skill, you have 0 rake Dnegs puts out the counter argument and here is where the Dilemna can be seen: Quote: Devil’s Advocate, a site cannot guarantee games are beatable. If, for example, all that were left were all players of equal skill, ANY rake would make the games unbeatable. Sites cannot rationally contemplate such rake policies, yet we can see from the perspective of the players such a policy of standardizing effective rake IS in fact “ideal”. This is what we should call “Poker’s Triffin Dilemna” and once we can collectively understand the problem and the difficulty of solving it, I wish to present to the community my solution for it.

On November 12 2015 03:36 Baalim wrote: I was 100% sure I would see digger posting about Najcoin in this thread... you did not disappoint lol

Its cool, its just my trolling, my laughing, my fun, my riducule of Amaya stars is far beyond the scope of your ability to see.

Tell us about Stars coin Baal. Tell us what is more valuable, Stars coin, bitcoin, or Naj coin? Tell us why. Tell us what is money and how these coins are arising and what will be the future of them. Stars coin... you know what is funny, they know they have to create a currency, a stars currency, but they have no idea why the fuck they have to do it. They fucked up. They really really fucked up. Stars coin will not save amaya.


ha.

BTW I am not at all comfortable with my raked monies going to anything that supports your ignorant ass. Just saying.

now i m 93% sure digger is trolling

On November 12 2015 05:02 dogmeat wrote: now i m 93% sure digger is trolling

Will you ever contribute, or will it always be that 100% of your posts will have absolutely 0 substance to them?

Ps: What happens when the troll holds the logical key?

And yes by "troll" I mean we are going to staple gun up our own tele comm network. I don't know if staple gun translates. Basically an example recently hong kong government tried to censor the internet and the kids made an ad hoc net using mesh tech with their mobile phones. Its archaic, but we don't need a superior system, we just need something that can act as a transferable utility. So you see the fun in it.

Abstract: In today's current economic environment the adoption of a universal poker coin? in the form of a Counterparty.io asset? !ould "naturally# create a free market of e$chan%e in the online poker industry? &rin%in% an asymptotic decline in effective rake. The correct parameters !ould i%nite a mini poker?%old rush transferrin%value? from current leadin% centrali(ed site model? &ack into the players 'ecolo%y' via Naj Coin. The project is considered successful if it can reach a tippin% point in the industry !ith respect to market cap vs. the current leadin% centrali(ed site's market share. The method is simple: spread the adoption of crypto)currency &y creatin% incentive for early adopters to si%n up for Counterparty !allets. *fter the initial drop is complete? and !ith enou%huseful nodes in the industry? a market !ill naturally arise from the value the ne!? more efficient? net!ork creates. Naj Coin ali%ns individual minded players !ith the &etterment of the economy of the %ame &y enticin% them to cooperate for their o!n individual %ain

Its like coupons. Except they can't be counterfeited. Thats the key. What is money? Over the history of man we have solved this exact issue many times by the issuance of currency. The fact that many are ignorant to the practicality means nothing and simply furthers the need for a money. To be clear, i realize its ridiculous, but its me laughing at YOU, cause ur dumb

could you elaborate on my posts having 0 substance to them?

On November 12 2015 12:21 dogmeat wrote: could you elaborate on my posts having 0 substance to them?

Not really anything to elaborate on, ducy?

http://tiltbook.com/weareallin/

Dear AMAYA, It seems to us that when you bought PokerStars, you had an idea of poker players being nothing more than a bunch of gamblers waiting to have all their money taken from them. The last announcement about changes in PokerStars’ VIP program for 2016 is a clear sign of that. These changes include the abolition of the Supernova Elite status, a complete removal of any rakeback for high-stakes cash games ($5/$10 and above) and also significantly cutting rewards for all players with PlatinumStar and Supernova status. Announcing these changes in November, when a lot of players have already put in plenty of hard work to achieve the given status (with an expectation of better rewards next year) is not fair, to say the least. What is even worse is the wording that your staff use - that by implementing these changes they are trying to help the poker ecosystem and recreational players. The truth is that all they are doing is taking huge amounts of money from winning players and putting it straight in to their own pockets. Among other ways, they are also doing this by converting all FPPs to StarsCoins on 1st January 2016, devaluing them by 25% - which also doesn’t help the recreational players in any way. It feels silly having to remind you that poker is not a casino game. A long time ago we all fell in love with PokerStars because they, as one of the very few poker rooms out there, realized that poker is a game of skill that produces other winners besides the house itself. Every single player who logs in dreams about becoming a poker professional one day and making a living playing this beautiful game. That said, not a single one of us is going to put in any work to achieve that dream if the end of this road – the road of becoming a winning player - is paved with nothing but an ever-increasing number of obstacles, lack of integrity and disrespect. We all understand and even agree that there should be some changes made in order to help the online poker ecosystem, but we are more than confident that maximizing the profits of your shareholders is not the way. Not if this is done by minimizing players’ chances of becoming a poker professional and effectively killing the dream we all share. We would like to and need to be a part of the conversation. We used to be your customers, your business partners. Now we are just cows quietly waiting to be milked out of our last pennies. But we refuse to stay quiet. Groups of angry customers are forming all over the world to organise anything from media campaigns to strikes in order to stop these changes that are killing poker. And we will not rest until our voices are heard and answered the way they deserve. We will also initiate talks with other online poker rooms, looking for possibilities of moving to a site that treats us with at least a bit of decency. We are all-in, Amaya, what’s your move? Your customers signed below.