2015 PokerStars APPT Manila Main Event is running currently in the Philippines and the festival has created also some huge high-stakes cash game action according to Winfred Yu.
Yu revealed during a video interview with PokerNews, that Phil Ivey, Tom Dwan, and Dan Cates are currently in Manila playing HK$20,000/$40,000/$80,000 (approx. $2,500/$5,000/$10,000) cash game. Yu added that it is probably the biggest cash game ever played in Manila area.
On August 15 2015 16:53 chris wrote:
i know everyone is always fan boying jungle....but wasn't he a massive cheater a few years ago?
I'm not sure what massiveness you're referring to but he was at the very least
involved in account sharing which he abused to e.g. take tens of thousands from some single person
and then delivered one of the biggest needles in poker history: Admitted to it but offered the person he took $40k from only poker lessons as compensation.
On August 15 2015 13:24 whamm! wrote:
Did they play in COD or Solaire?
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. Aug 20 2015 17:11. Posts 8648
On August 18 2015 14:27 lucky331 wrote:
lmao i didn't watch that at first because those interviews are all so dumb, glad i clicked it anyway.
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TimDawg United States. Aug 20 2015 20:51. Posts 10197
On August 20 2015 00:43 Baalim wrote:
on that podcast Doug Polk make a very good point about playing super nosebleeds on not the safest of places.
We are talking about millions of dollars you have to be trust 100% on the legitimacy of the place, dealers etc.
yeah I would say for that kinda money, it's probably a decent favorite that some form of collusion/shadiness is going on
online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball
I dont think so
And he didn't exactly made a point about the game itself but the environment overall I think ? That he wouldn't feel safe on an unknown place having huge sums of money cash and his private stuff etc. unprotected
Would be extremely hard to conceal shadiness in a game that huge especially when you have pros there playing as well as most of the people would be well known people in that area or in the world overall.
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Tom was playing on a new account that used to belong to a fish and was playing 50/100+ online but the game has sort of past him by and the games were actually forming around him in tough line ups.
the second thing he said is he heard first hand tom had gotten backed to play the big games in macau which this was at a time right after black friday were the macau games were still possible to get into and according to this guy tom deliberately lost millions in these games until whoever was backing him was forced to drop him, then when they did he came back in with his own money and a permanent invite into these games owing to the whales seeing him as a big loser.
from there I'm not sure how this ends up with him being in debt and all that and this is of course 3rd hand info, but it's what I heard.
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flounder44 United States. Aug 21 2015 18:27. Posts 916
On August 20 2015 00:43 Baalim wrote:
on that podcast Doug Polk make a very good point about playing super nosebleeds on not the safest of places.
We are talking about millions of dollars you have to be trust 100% on the legitimacy of the place, dealers etc.
yeah I would say for that kinda money, it's probably a decent favorite that some form of collusion/shadiness is going on
I think the people who have control over the game and it's conditions are well respected and trusted enough that everyone that comes to the game feels comfortable
still wouldn't rule out cheating but I would not say that it's a favorite to be happening
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TimDawg United States. Aug 22 2015 00:00. Posts 10197
On August 20 2015 00:43 Baalim wrote:
on that podcast Doug Polk make a very good point about playing super nosebleeds on not the safest of places.
We are talking about millions of dollars you have to be trust 100% on the legitimacy of the place, dealers etc.
yeah I would say for that kinda money, it's probably a decent favorite that some form of collusion/shadiness is going on
I think the people who have control over the game and it's conditions are well respected and trusted enough that everyone that comes to the game feels comfortable
still wouldn't rule out cheating but I would not say that it's a favorite to be happening
fair enough
I'm biased because I've played in live games where people tried to cheat for a lot less
online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball
On August 20 2015 00:43 Baalim wrote:
on that podcast Doug Polk make a very good point about playing super nosebleeds on not the safest of places.
We are talking about millions of dollars you have to be trust 100% on the legitimacy of the place, dealers etc.
yeah I would say for that kinda money, it's probably a decent favorite that some form of collusion/shadiness is going on
I think the people who have control over the game and it's conditions are well respected and trusted enough that everyone that comes to the game feels comfortable
still wouldn't rule out cheating but I would not say that it's a favorite to be happening
fair enough
I'm biased because I've played in live games where people tried to cheat for a lot less
Exactly this. These are insane stakes, and people by default are scumbags when it comes to money. So yeah, if I was a betting man, I'd say he got hustled. And I don't mean in the 'fair' sense.
On August 20 2015 00:43 Baalim wrote:
on that podcast Doug Polk make a very good point about playing super nosebleeds on not the safest of places.
We are talking about millions of dollars you have to be trust 100% on the legitimacy of the place, dealers etc.
yeah I would say for that kinda money, it's probably a decent favorite that some form of collusion/shadiness is going on
I think the people who have control over the game and it's conditions are well respected and trusted enough that everyone that comes to the game feels comfortable
still wouldn't rule out cheating but I would not say that it's a favorite to be happening
fair enough
I'm biased because I've played in live games where people tried to cheat for a lot less
they dont have a reputation to lose. my understanding is that the guys in these games, its a point of pride how much money they can throw around. if they were caught cheating, i assume theyd be ostracized from all their rich powerful friends. but yes...cheaters are everywhere and you should always be vigilant anywhere in the world when you play live.
On August 20 2015 00:43 Baalim wrote:
on that podcast Doug Polk make a very good point about playing super nosebleeds on not the safest of places.
We are talking about millions of dollars you have to be trust 100% on the legitimacy of the place, dealers etc.
yeah I would say for that kinda money, it's probably a decent favorite that some form of collusion/shadiness is going on
I think the people who have control over the game and it's conditions are well respected and trusted enough that everyone that comes to the game feels comfortable
still wouldn't rule out cheating but I would not say that it's a favorite to be happening
fair enough
I'm biased because I've played in live games where people tried to cheat for a lot less
Exactly this. These are insane stakes, and people by default are scumbags when it comes to money. So yeah, if I was a betting man, I'd say he got hustled. And I don't mean in the 'fair' sense.
Again, pure speculation. But that's my opinion.
That's what I think too. But more like hustled into playing a new game like 6 plus holdem.
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vasoline73 United States. Aug 23 2015 13:49. Posts 808
That interview XD
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hiems United States. Aug 25 2015 19:51. Posts 2979
Safe to say Dwan is still a boss in the poker world? You can say hes staked for sure and speculate as to what his net worth is but hes playing a ridiculous game.
Wonder what everyone's opinion is.
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On August 25 2015 18:51 hiems wrote:
Safe to say Dwan is still a boss in the poker world? You can say hes staked for sure and speculate as to what his net worth is but hes playing a ridiculous game.
Wonder what everyone's opinion is.
Jungle thinks otherwise..
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Ryan Neilly United States. Aug 27 2015 19:05. Posts 1631
I think Jungle was hustled here.
It goes back to Jungle calling out Tom Dwan to finish the hands
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