UFC FN 65: Miocic vs. Hunt

Date: Saturday, May 9th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 00:45 LP.net / 4:45pm PST / 7:45pm EST
Main Card (UFC Fight Pass): 4:00 LP.net / 8pm PST / 11pm EST
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Main Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Stipe Miocic (12-2) vs. Mark Hunt (10-9-1) (Heavyweight)
Brad Tavares (13-3) vs. Robert Whittaker (13-4) (Middleweight)
Anthony Perosh (15-8) vs. Sean O'Connell (16-6) (Light Heavyweight)
Jake Matthews (8-0) vs. James Vick (7-0) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Hatsu Hioki (27-8-2) vs. Dan Hooker (11-5) (Featherweight)
Kyle Noke (20-7-1) vs. Jonavin Webb (8-0) (Welterweight)
Dan Kelly (9-0) vs. Sam Alvey (25-6) (Middleweight)
Bec Rawlings (5-4) vs. Lisa Ellis (15-9) (Women's Strawweight)
Dylan Andrews (17-6) vs. Brad Scott (9-3) (Middleweight)
Alex Chambers (4-2) vs. Kailin Curran (3-1) (Women's Strawweight)
Vik Grujic (6-4) vs. Brendan O'Reilly (5-1) (Welterweight)
Alptekin Ozkilic (9-3) vs. Ben Nguyen (13-5) (Flyweight)

Other

- Andreas Stahl was expected to face Kyle Noke at the event. However on April 2, it was announced that Stahl pulled out of the fight due to undisclosed reasons and was replaced by promotional newcomer Jonavin Webb.
- Seo Hee Ham was expected to face Bec Rawlings at the event. However on April 10, Ham pulled out of the bout due to an undisclosed injury and was replaced by Lisa Ellis.

First impression of the match-ups:

• Miocic > Hunt
• Whittaker > Tavares
• Perosh > O'Connell
• Matthews > Vick
• Hooker > Hioki
• Noke > Webb
• Alvey > Kelly
• Rawlings > Ellis
• Andrews > Scott
• Curran > Chambers
• Grujic vs. O'Reilly (dunno)
• Ozkilic > Nguyen

Stipe Miocic (12-2) vs. Mark Hunt (10-9-1) (Heavyweight)

I think miocic has this, but you can never really count Hunt out. I think the current odds are about right. I will wait for weight in to make up my mind, but i do see Miocic as a -200 favorite atm.

Brad Tavares (13-3) vs. Robert Whittaker (13-4) (Middleweight)

I went with tavares here. I might regret it, but for some reasons i think hes the better fighter.

Anthony Perosh (15-8) vs. Sean O'Connell (16-6) (Light Heavyweight)

I feel this one is difficult, considering how old Perosh is getting and the bad odds hes getting, but im still betting him. I'm not impressed at all by his opponement. Yes he can take hits, but thats about it imo. I think hes not ufc caliber.

Jake Matthews (8-0) vs. James Vick (7-0) (Lightweight)

I think Matthews is a steal, i hope his odds gets better. I don't see him losing this.

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Hatsu Hioki (27-8-2) vs. Dan Hooker (11-5) (Featherweight)

I really like Hooker here, considering the great odds hes getting. Japanese fighters tend to do horrible in the ufc, Hooker has home advantage, age advantage, taller, better reach. If i can get him at +250 ill go for it.

if Miocic can stand with JDS he should easily trade with Hunt early and after round 2 Hunt will be gassed and drawing dead

On May 04 2015 01:04 Baalim wrote: if Miocic can stand with JDS he should easily trade with Hunt early and after round 2 Hunt will be gassed and drawing dead

Hunt isn't Roy Nelson, hes not just a round 1 guy. His only R1 win in the ufc is against Cheik Kongo. I think he can be dangerous the whole match unlike Nelson.
But i do agree Miocic has stood with JDS for 5 rounds AND has made beating Nelson look really easy, so i think he is rightfully a -200 favorite.

On May 04 2015 01:51 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2015 01:04 Baalim wrote: if Miocic can stand with JDS he should easily trade with Hunt early and after round 2 Hunt will be gassed and drawing dead Hunt isn't Roy Nelson, hes not just a round 1 guy. His only R1 win in the ufc is against Cheik Kongo. I think he can be dangerous the whole match unlike Nelson. But i do agree Miocic has stood with JDS for 5 rounds AND has made beating Nelson look really easy, so i think he is rightfully a -200 favorite.

Hunt has shitty cardio but his style uses very little energy and while gassed he remains competent since he goes to his old style of standing still eating punches with his iron chin but threatening a massive counter but that wont be enough to worry a striker the leve lf Miocic

Let's not forget that Miocic got KTFO'd by Stefan Struve...

If Hunt line goes over +200 I might throw some small bet on him.

No idea and no interest in any other fight on this card.

Tough stuff, not a lot of great bets on the card.

Picks:

Miocic > Hunt - Pretty obvious favorite, should be the favorite, should win via superior movement and cardio, but it's HW and both fighters are good. Good fight.

Whitaker > Tavares - Agree with Rican, Tavares is the favorite too - will put a small bet on Whitaker, but I see the fight as a near pickem so not overly confident. Whitaker better hands, Tavares more well-rounded

Perosh > O'Connell - Same as fight above in terms of the odds, small bet on O'Connell probably, Perosh will sub him if it hits the ground though. I saw O'Connell at +200 a week ago and really liked it but the odds have gotten closer

Mathews > Vick - Both large, physical lightweights, Mathews has way more upside, wouldn't touch it at current odds. I probably like the over, both guys tough durable, not very technical but not bad by any means anywhere. Only reason I think it's really close is because Vick has a good style and size to counter what Mathews does best, which is bully and out-athlete people

Hioki > Hooker - Good fight. Small bet on Hooker perhaps, but Hioki is probably better everywhere. Just not by much, and Hooker is younger and insanely durable. If Hioki gets a finish it'll be by sub. Probably fight of the night right here.

Noke v Webb - No clue on who Webb is. If I find some tape on him and he's game, I'd probably take him is Noke is old and very journeyman like at this point, but competent everywhere.

Alvey > Kelly - Odds are really wide.... I think too wide, but Kelly does suck. Alvey is very passive though, would never bet him at -300. Dog or pass.

Rawlings > Ellis - Will probably bet Rawlings, she's got some of the best hands in the division and is physical enough to avoid most of Ellis' grappling IMO

Andrews > Scott - Can never bet Andrews as a favorite, gets hurt all the time and loses in weird ways, but fun guy to watch fight.

Curran > Chambers

O'Reily v Grucik - Dunno, both are bad

Ozkilic v Ngyuen - No clue

Hunt by KO and maybe Miocic by decision

On May 04 2015 16:23 soberstone wrote: Hioki > Hooker - Good fight. Small bet on Hooker perhaps, but Hioki is probably better everywhere. Just not by much, and Hooker is younger and insanely durable. If Hioki gets a finish it'll be by sub. Probably fight of the night right here.

Reading you made me even more confident in my Hooker bet.

I think we can't under estimate the odds which says Japanese fighters have lowest win rate, and New Zealand fighters have highest win rate, of all nations. Then, Hooker has home and reach advantage.

On May 04 2015 16:23 soberstone wrote: Noke v Webb - No clue on who Webb is. If I find some tape on him and he's game, I'd probably take him is Noke is old and very journeyman like at this point, but competent everywhere

Same here i couldn't find a lot about Webb. Only found very poor quality tape or old stuff, which doesn't mean much. From what i understand, Webb seems dangerous on the ground. I'm leaning toward Noke but i feel like im betting in the dark in this fight.

On May 04 2015 19:24 alejandicto wrote: Hunt by KO and maybe Miocic by decision

well if anybody betting on Hunt has to bet on the KO theres no way he wins a decision

On May 05 2015 00:20 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2015 19:24 alejandicto wrote: Hunt by KO and maybe Miocic by decision well if anybody betting on Hunt has to bet on the KO theres no way he wins a decision

If this was 3 rounds, i could see it happening.

In 5 rounds, i do have trouble imagining Hunt winning by decision.
But if the odds between ML and KO lines are close, i would still take the ML, especially on 5dimes where the ML will get reduced and not the props.

The match could easily go to decision, with Hunt's iron chin, and its Hunt's home town, so a robbery could happen.

I think Hunt by KO will probably end up getting overvalued. Miocic's chin could be gone after his war with JDS but it could also be the same in which case he probably won't get hit nearly as much and took everything JDS had. JDS hits fucking hard.

I think the reason Struve KO'd Miocic was that Miocic punched himself out in the first round of that fight, not cause he has a bad chin. I'd say at this point he has one of the better chins in Heavyweight MMA.

That said, Hunt could land the overhand, right uppercut, or leaping left hook and goodnight.

I could just as easily see him win a decision by hurting Miocic 2 or 3 key times and earning a couple rounds and get outlanded but still win.

Most likely Miocic wins a decision or an impressive late KO.

Edit: If Miocic wins I'd like to see him vs Travis Browne after he dispatches of Arlovski for a title shot.

As an example of what i'm trying to say, in Hunt vs Bigfoot, Hunt's ML was +140, and Hunt's KO line was +158
We gotta admit Hunt by Decision was pretty damn close to happening. 1 Judge gave it to hunt, 2 judges made it a draw.

Of course there's a difference between Bigfoot and Miocic, but the point is just that if the difference between the reduced ML and the KO line is tiny i won't go for the KO line.

I will wait till the end to get a good price for Hunt by KO and thats it

Ben Nguyen is basically an internet hero I'll be rooting for him.




https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment..._dude_that_knocked_out_the_tatted_up/

Sadly I haven't found any bets for this card. Probably has something to do with knowing less than half the fighters. I thought about betting Hunt for a short while then realized it was idiotic.

Bets laid down today:

Miocic + Rawlings - $40.00 to win $53.08

Whittaker SU - $20.00 to win $27.00

Such a shitty card to bet on... odds are on point for most everything I see and I really don't want to bet against Smilin' Sam. If Hooker gets to +250 or better I'll bet him. If Chambers gets to +200 I'll bet her. If O'Connell gets back up to around +175 I'll bet him.

Dan Kelly (9-0) vs. Sam Alvey (25-6) (Middleweight)

Oh god this fight....

I first analyzed Kelly, and thought he's the worst fighter ever and that i'm betting on Alvey for sure.

Then i watched Alvey's last 2 fights, where he essentially get dominated the whole fight and wins out of nowhere. That's cool, but idk if i want to bet -400 on someone like that.

Honnestly, even thought Kelly sucks, i think me MIGHT have a good style against Alvey. He might suck, but i think he's smart and probably going to avoid any risk and try to win by decision. He also seems to have a decent chin, and this is his Homeland, so he has even more chance to steal a decision.

Oh forgot to add... Alvey has 5.5 inch advantage and is 10 years younger against someone who clearly lacks cardio....

I'm actually leaning toward Kelly but i def won't be ultra confident if i bet on him.

Essentially, Alvey tends to almost always give away the first round. This is a very dangerous thing to do against someone in his Home town over a 3 fight round.

Man, just watching some tape on Lisa Ellis to convince myself that I'm right about picking Rawlings (yah, probably should have done that first right? But I know Ellis blows and Rawlings is one of the few female fighters that throws blows like a dude and thought she performed well vs Heather Clarke, who I believe is much better than Lisa Ellis.... mma math :/).

Anyway, just noticing how much these women use headlocks to throw and than proceed to hang onto the headlock from side control in like every women fight that involves a semblance of grappling. It literally does not exist in male mma for the simple reason that you are literally giving up your back from side control if you hold onto a headlock. It absolutely blows me away. I dunno, just thought I'd throw it out there for something to watch for and criticize, I find it funny. Than I cry because I know these 115 lb females could make me their bitch.

As for the Kelly bet Floofy, I say go for it. I think there is value there, but I won't put my money where my mouth is because I've always rooted for Smilin' Sam and he usually wins when I think he's gonna lose and vice versa. He's just an extremely low output volume fighter with legit KO power who takes his time way too much, or maybe just doesn't have the offensive game to put on a pace, but regardless, I think him as a huge favorite is pretty crazy, especially in Australia vs an Auzzie that will assuredly throw more strikes than him. In a fight where the over 1.5 rounds is -150 and the way Alvey wins is most likely a KO or hurting the guy real bad, the line doesn't add up.

In fact, in simply typing this I realized I am just gonna throw 10 bucks on Kelly at +315. Bet made. Still fine with Sam KOing him. It's a real win/win.

I'll also go out on not too much of a limb at predict that Kelly ends up around +285 by fight time.

People forget Stipe actually has really good wrestling. He shouldn't have to out strike Hunt. That said, Stipe's chin isn't iron and his cardio is also very average, and Hunt is always dangerous so I could definitely see him finding Stipes chin at some point over 5 rounds.

On May 06 2015 05:56 soberstone wrote: As for the Kelly bet Floofy, I say go for it. I think there is value there, but I won't put my money where my mouth is because I've always rooted for Smilin' Sam and he usually wins when I think he's gonna lose and vice versa. He's just an extremely low output volume fighter with legit KO power who takes his time way too much, or maybe just doesn't have the offensive game to put on a pace, but regardless, I think him as a huge favorite is pretty crazy, especially in Australia vs an Auzzie that will assuredly throw more strikes than him. In a fight where the over 1.5 rounds is -150 and the way Alvey wins is most likely a KO or hurting the guy real bad, the line doesn't add up. In fact, in simply typing this I realized I am just gonna throw 10 bucks on Kelly at +315. Bet made. Still fine with Sam KOing him. It's a real win/win. I'll also go out on not too much of a limb at predict that Kelly ends up around +285 by fight time.

I'm personally gonna wait, i think i can get him at +350

But i agree with you. I think Kelly is a really shitty fighter, but they gave him the perfect opponement.

On May 06 2015 21:16 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2015 05:56 soberstone wrote: As for the Kelly bet Floofy, I say go for it. I think there is value there, but I won't put my money where my mouth is because I've always rooted for Smilin' Sam and he usually wins when I think he's gonna lose and vice versa. He's just an extremely low output volume fighter with legit KO power who takes his time way too much, or maybe just doesn't have the offensive game to put on a pace, but regardless, I think him as a huge favorite is pretty crazy, especially in Australia vs an Auzzie that will assuredly throw more strikes than him. In a fight where the over 1.5 rounds is -150 and the way Alvey wins is most likely a KO or hurting the guy real bad, the line doesn't add up. In fact, in simply typing this I realized I am just gonna throw 10 bucks on Kelly at +315. Bet made. Still fine with Sam KOing him. It's a real win/win. I'll also go out on not too much of a limb at predict that Kelly ends up around +285 by fight time. I'm personally gonna wait, i think i can get him at +350 But i agree with you. I think Kelly is a really shitty fighter, but they gave him the perfect opponement.

I dunno, Kelly opened at +210 and a bunch of money came in on Alvey, presumably because Kelly was involved the worst MMA fight in the UFC this year not very long ago and if you simply look at Alvey's record he's KO'd much better opposition. I think the sharp money comes in on Kelly for sure.

On May 07 2015 00:33 soberstone wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2015 21:16 Floofy wrote:   On May 06 2015 05:56 soberstone wrote: As for the Kelly bet Floofy, I say go for it. I think there is value there, but I won't put my money where my mouth is because I've always rooted for Smilin' Sam and he usually wins when I think he's gonna lose and vice versa. He's just an extremely low output volume fighter with legit KO power who takes his time way too much, or maybe just doesn't have the offensive game to put on a pace, but regardless, I think him as a huge favorite is pretty crazy, especially in Australia vs an Auzzie that will assuredly throw more strikes than him. In a fight where the over 1.5 rounds is -150 and the way Alvey wins is most likely a KO or hurting the guy real bad, the line doesn't add up. In fact, in simply typing this I realized I am just gonna throw 10 bucks on Kelly at +315. Bet made. Still fine with Sam KOing him. It's a real win/win. I'll also go out on not too much of a limb at predict that Kelly ends up around +285 by fight time. I'm personally gonna wait, i think i can get him at +350 But i agree with you. I think Kelly is a really shitty fighter, but they gave him the perfect opponement. I dunno, Kelly opened at +210 and a bunch of money came in on Alvey, presumably because Kelly was involved the worst MMA fight in the UFC this year not very long ago and if you simply look at Alvey's record he's KO'd much better opposition. I think the sharp money comes in on Kelly for sure.

Its currently +335 -420, but comes the day of the weight in, 5dimes will reduce it a lot, i expect at least +350, then ill start to really like Kelly.

On May 07 2015 00:44 Floofy wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2015 00:33 soberstone wrote:   On May 06 2015 21:16 Floofy wrote:   On May 06 2015 05:56 soberstone wrote: As for the Kelly bet Floofy, I say go for it. I think there is value there, but I won't put my money where my mouth is because I've always rooted for Smilin' Sam and he usually wins when I think he's gonna lose and vice versa. He's just an extremely low output volume fighter with legit KO power who takes his time way too much, or maybe just doesn't have the offensive game to put on a pace, but regardless, I think him as a huge favorite is pretty crazy, especially in Australia vs an Auzzie that will assuredly throw more strikes than him. In a fight where the over 1.5 rounds is -150 and the way Alvey wins is most likely a KO or hurting the guy real bad, the line doesn't add up. In fact, in simply typing this I realized I am just gonna throw 10 bucks on Kelly at +315. Bet made. Still fine with Sam KOing him. It's a real win/win. I'll also go out on not too much of a limb at predict that Kelly ends up around +285 by fight time. I'm personally gonna wait, i think i can get him at +350 But i agree with you. I think Kelly is a really shitty fighter, but they gave him the perfect opponement. I dunno, Kelly opened at +210 and a bunch of money came in on Alvey, presumably because Kelly was involved the worst MMA fight in the UFC this year not very long ago and if you simply look at Alvey's record he's KO'd much better opposition. I think the sharp money comes in on Kelly for sure. Its currently +335 -420, but comes the day of the weight in, 5dimes will reduce it a lot, i expect at least +350, then ill start to really like Kelly.

Alvey is also a very small 85er. He cuts no weight and has a gut. Just sayin', You are missing the boat if you wait until weigh-ins.

In case anyone cares, Costas Philippou is +401 on Bookmaker vs Mousasi right now for the following week.

While I hate Philippou and like Mousasi, and think the style matchup is favorable for Gegard, I think those odds are ludicrous considering their careers archs. I put a decent sized bet on Costas and will feel great about it win, lose or draw. That's very good value.

Yeah, I think its good value too. I thinkk both Costas ML and Urijah Faber ML at those odds is great.

On May 07 2015 04:28 soberstone wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2015 00:44 Floofy wrote:   On May 07 2015 00:33 soberstone wrote:   On May 06 2015 21:16 Floofy wrote:   On May 06 2015 05:56 soberstone wrote: As for the Kelly bet Floofy, I say go for it. I think there is value there, but I won't put my money where my mouth is because I've always rooted for Smilin' Sam and he usually wins when I think he's gonna lose and vice versa. He's just an extremely low output volume fighter with legit KO power who takes his time way too much, or maybe just doesn't have the offensive game to put on a pace, but regardless, I think him as a huge favorite is pretty crazy, especially in Australia vs an Auzzie that will assuredly throw more strikes than him. In a fight where the over 1.5 rounds is -150 and the way Alvey wins is most likely a KO or hurting the guy real bad, the line doesn't add up. In fact, in simply typing this I realized I am just gonna throw 10 bucks on Kelly at +315. Bet made. Still fine with Sam KOing him. It's a real win/win. I'll also go out on not too much of a limb at predict that Kelly ends up around +285 by fight time. I'm personally gonna wait, i think i can get him at +350 But i agree with you. I think Kelly is a really shitty fighter, but they gave him the perfect opponement. I dunno, Kelly opened at +210 and a bunch of money came in on Alvey, presumably because Kelly was involved the worst MMA fight in the UFC this year not very long ago and if you simply look at Alvey's record he's KO'd much better opposition. I think the sharp money comes in on Kelly for sure. Its currently +335 -420, but comes the day of the weight in, 5dimes will reduce it a lot, i expect at least +350, then ill start to really like Kelly. Alvey is also a very small 85er. He cuts no weight and has a gut. Just sayin', You are missing the boat if you wait until weigh-ins.

He's already +355. I still prefer to wait for weigh ins. If he somehow looks really bad or misses weight, then ill wait even longer and get sick odds, but if he looks ok, ill take him right away before the odds switch.

Hunt at + 210 is a bet.

Here is Jack Slack article for the fight - http://fightland.vice.com/blog/the-super-samoan-takes-on-stipe-miocic

On May 08 2015 21:09 northsails wrote: Hunt at + 210 is a bet. Here is Jack Slack article for the fight - http://fightland.vice.com/blog/the-super-samoan-takes-on-stipe-miocic

AGreed hes getting interesting at +210.

If we compare this with CC vs GG, i give Hunt way more of a chance to win than CC had against Gonzaga.

to me, at the current odds, its starting to be a dog or pass.

Well if you want to bet Hunt I'd probably wait, he just came in looking fat as fuck weighing 266, surely more money gonna come in on Stipe who looked great.

I think Perosh by decision @ 4.5 is a great bet.

Whitaker is one of the up-and-comers that I thought had potential and he looks to be in stronger shape than last time.

On May 09 2015 03:03 Minsk wrote: I think Perosh by decision @ 4.5 is a great bet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Perosh#Mixed_martial_arts_record

Yeah, i just looked at it, thought about it, and ended up still liking it.

Miocic ML, Whitaker ML, Perosh DEC, Kelley ML so far.

On May 09 2015 01:58 soberstone wrote: Well if you want to bet Hunt I'd probably wait, he just came in looking fat as fuck weighing 266, surely more money gonna come in on Stipe who looked great.

Yeah, I thought the same. Funny enough the line went down a bit.

On May 09 2015 03:20 Minsk wrote: Yeah, i just looked at it, thought about it, and ended up still liking it.

O conelle is also mostly losing by KO or sub. That fight is essentially the second most likely fight not to go to a decision.

On May 09 2015 12:15 northsails wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2015 01:58 soberstone wrote: Well if you want to bet Hunt I'd probably wait, he just came in looking fat as fuck weighing 266, surely more money gonna come in on Stipe who looked great. Yeah, I thought the same. Funny enough the line went down a bit.

Not no more.

I use bookmaker.

Got Miocic at -215, now he's -260.
Got Rawlings at -170, she's now at -195.
Got Whittaker at +135, he's not at +110.
Got Kelley at +315, he's not at +310 (surprised the line has stayed the same relatively, it's gotten closer on most of the other sites)
Putting small bet on Chambers as she's now at +205 (opened at +160).

Hate this card because it sucks for one, but also doesn't have good parlaying opportunities unless your looking for the super high variance home run.

From a fan perspective, only looking forward to the following fights:

Miocic v Hunt
Tavarez v Whittaker
Mathews v Vick
Hioki v Hooker

Basically only the main card minus the awful Perosh vs O'Connell fight

Whats the point of doing parlays? Doesn't it just increase variance? Does Bookmaker place some kind of value on parlays?

On May 09 2015 23:35 Minsk wrote: Whats the point of doing parlays? Doesn't it just increase variance? Does Bookmaker place some kind of value on parlays?

Yes it increases Variance, no actual point - just makes it more fun. You could sit there and double down on each bet and it would be the same thing as a parlay.

Edit: Atleast I enjoy them. Maybe others don't. Purely subjective way to gamble.

Prelims: http://firstrowus1.eu/watch/344372/1/watch-ufc-fight-night-65:-prelims-.html

Well Ben Ngyun just made a huge fan out of me.

Holy shit. Viral video star has game!

Too bad for Alp, I like him.

On May 10 2015 00:06 PuertoRican wrote: Too bad for Alp, I like him.

He'll probably perform well on the regional circuit. You think they cut him?

O'Reilly and Grujic were gassed after they reached the 6th minute of the fight... ;/

That was tragic.

ROFL. I'll take it, Curran fucked up SO BAD.

Curran is a joke... Can't believe she lost that.

I had "Chambers is ass, Curran has a nice ass" typed in,and it just turned into 'that was tragic.

Tragic for the UFC. Curran's hot. Let's keep it real.

Tragic for her trainer, who will forever look at her like a moron, too.

Tragic for Chambers, who will now be matched against tougher competition and get her face pounded in even worse.

Tragic for Curran for obvious reasons.

Awesome for the fans though, tragedy is always awesome to witness.

All underdogs have won thus far.

Scott was on a significantly higher level than Andrews, if I knew who any of them is.

Love the pacing on this card due to it being on Fight Pass. Really moving it along.

Rawlings looks like something out of Battlefield Earth.

Easy money for Rawlings.

I like her because she actually has fight ending violence in her strikes unlike alot of 115ers. She got the sub but make no mistake it was the elbows and knees that set that up. She won't win any big fights most likely but I like her to take out the slime of the division like Lisa Ellis (nothing personal against her, she's just bad)

I'm surprised that all the womens divisions arent more dominated by super masculine fighters, like Rawlings and Cyborg.

Find myself rooting for another Alvey KO even tho I have a small bet against him. This is a win-win. If he wins a boring decision I'll be pissed tho. If he loses a boring decision I'll be conflicted.

LOL! Smilin Sam!

ALVEY with that retard-power in his punches.

OMG I LOVE THE CALL-OUT. SMILIN SAM MARKETING GENIUS. SHAVE HEAD BET CALL-OUT!

Theadorou is a guy he can but might not beat. I'd have the odds close to even. Elias virtually has to accept the fight. You can tell Alvey's girl is bringing the marketing genius to his low-ceiling career.

Oh shit i feel stupid thinking Kelly was a smart bet.

I had that for Webb.

In Australia everything is upside down.

On May 10 2015 02:19 soberstone wrote: I had that for Webb.

R1 was clearly web.
R2 clearly Noke imo

R3 was 17 SS for noke and 14 SS for web. I think the judges did a fine job. this was a pretty close fight. I think both guys did really well.

I saw Noke/Webb as a split decision. If it was based on damaging strikes and submission attempts, Webb would've won.

Round 1 = Webb
Round 2 = close round that Noke only won due to his kicks to Webb's butt while Webb was on his back. Those kicks do nothing in terms of damage, they're akin to rabbit punches to the thigh while rolling on the ground.
Round 3 = tie. Webb took the round off, even though he landed the only meaningful punch in the round.

I blame Webb for getting lazy. I've never seen him fight before, so I dunno if he has cardio issues or not.

I saw that web was fighting, but not really trying to win a 3 round contest, but rather trying to win a fight. He had no adjustments to the timings of the contest.

That guy might be dead.

Brutal

Time for Hioki to retire.

Craig Amos
BleacherReport.com 29-28 Noke
Rob Tatum
CombatPress.com 28-29 Webb
Jeff Sherwood
Sherdog.com 28-29 Webb
Jordan Breen
Sherdog.com 28-29 Webb
Jason Floyd
TheMMAReport.com 28-29 Webb
MMABrasil.com.br 28-29 Webb
Wrestling Observer 28-29 Webb
MMAJunkie.com 27-30 Webb
Chris Nelson
Sherdog.com 27-30 Webb
Tim Burke
BloodyElbow.com 27-30 Webb
Cory Braiterman
MMAMania.com 27-30 Webb

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This is why you never ignore the "home advantage"

btw i have a feeling im betting on web on his next fight. this guy looked great

Forget what I said about pacing. This is total bullshit.

Or I was just watching the wrong stream the whole time rofl.

Sick submission by Vick.

Vick just showed he's a tough out for anyone outside the top 20. And that's actually saying something in the LW division. Pasted the hyped Jake Mathews.

Goodbye Anthony Perosh, enjoy your life, you deserve it.

Maybe Perosh by decision wasn't so great.

Yes. Shoot that Whittaker. Sick KO. Gonna be tough deciding bonuses for this one.

Whittaker went beast-mode!

fuark yeaah, I went with my gut and bet Whittaker, Thank YOU!!!

UFC photoshop of Hunt. Look at his head and chest.

laggy anyone?

Fight should have been stopped about 2 rounds ago.

On May 10 2015 04:10 PuertoRican wrote: UFC photoshop of Hunt. Look at his head and chest.

That is fucking hilarious.

Good win for Miocic, but it was an ugly fight against someone who looked terrible during the weigh-ins and during the fight.

ref should've ended the fight in the 3rd round imo

Miocic + Rawlings PL $40.00 115 +50.38
Whittaker > Tavarez SU $20.00 135 +27
Kelly > Alvey SU $10.00 315 +-10.8
Webb > Noke SU $10.00 -108 +-10.8
Chambers > Curran SU $10.00 205 +20.5
Hooker > Hioki SU $20.00 250 +50.20


Nightly total = +126.48

YTD = +660.38

Meanwhile losing hundreds on NBA fish betting.

I spent wayyyyyyyy to much money on DraftKings for an event that I knew could go either way for many of the fights. There were 8 underdog wins out of 12 fights.

I spent $66 + won $36 = -$30 for my total loss.

I was bored for most of this card, so that made tonight even worse.

We have a ton of sick good UFC cards coming up, so that's nice.

Josh Barnett submitted Ryron Gracie earlier today at Metamoris. Ryron and Rener did a breakdown.


Here's the Metamoris videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL1lcmjgYVWUkYcpJtkYFhw/videos

Chickened out on my Hunt bet after seing how horrible he looked on the weigh in. What a beating. That looked like it was fight to the dead or something. Embarassing from the referee and Hunt's corner.

Good job, soberstone.

Imo the referee did his job. Hunt simply wasn't out until the ref stopped it. Yes he was exhausted, but he wasn't out.

Now you could blame the corner for not stopping it, but obviously you can guess how much boo the crowd might have gave lol. And even tho really unlikely, i don't think a come back was 100% impossible after round 3. If there was live betting, i wouldn't bet my house on Miocic (i have no house, but you get the point).

Now the problem is, this kind of match is the reason a lot of people who don't know MMA very well thinks that MMA is "a barbaric sport". I recently got my GF to watch MMA with me. She missed the main event because it was too late, and tbh i'm glad she missed it, this is the the kind of match which might possibly make her lose interest lol.

On May 10 2015 15:29 Floofy wrote: Imo the referee did his job. Hunt simply wasn't out until the ref stopped it. Yes he was exhausted, but he wasn't out. Now you could blame the corner for not stopping it, but obviously you can guess how much boo the crowd might have gave lol. And even tho really unlikely, i don't think a come back was 100% impossible after round 3. If there was live betting, i wouldn't bet my house on Miocic (i have no house, but you get the point). Now the problem is, this kind of match is the reason a lot of people who don't know MMA very well thinks that MMA is "a barbaric sport". I recently got my GF to watch MMA with me. She missed the main event because it was too late, and tbh i'm glad she missed it, this is the the kind of match which might possibly make her lose interest lol.

Should have been stopped in round 3 and 4... not even close. Terrible reffing. Using your palm of your hand over your face to absorb a record amount of blows while stuck on your knees for minutes on end is not intelligently defending yourself. The notion that just because there is a small, and by small I mean microscopic chance that Hunt could feasibly recover and win has no relevancy as to whether a fight should be stopped. By your logic the fight shouldn't have been stopped at all.

That said, I fully agree that I would blame Hunt's corner just as much as the ref. There's no way he ever quits, just throw in the damn towel if the ref isn't gonna do his job.

On May 10 2015 21:17 soberstone wrote: Show nested quote + On May 10 2015 15:29 Floofy wrote: Imo the referee did his job. Hunt simply wasn't out until the ref stopped it. Yes he was exhausted, but he wasn't out. Now you could blame the corner for not stopping it, but obviously you can guess how much boo the crowd might have gave lol. And even tho really unlikely, i don't think a come back was 100% impossible after round 3. If there was live betting, i wouldn't bet my house on Miocic (i have no house, but you get the point). Now the problem is, this kind of match is the reason a lot of people who don't know MMA very well thinks that MMA is "a barbaric sport". I recently got my GF to watch MMA with me. She missed the main event because it was too late, and tbh i'm glad she missed it, this is the the kind of match which might possibly make her lose interest lol. Should have been stopped in round 3 and 4... not even close. Terrible reffing. Using your palm of your hand over your face to absorb a record amount of blows while stuck on your knees for minutes on end is not intelligently defending yourself. The notion that just because there is a small, and by small I mean microscopic chance that Hunt could feasibly recover and win has no relevancy as to whether a fight should be stopped. By your logic the fight shouldn't have been stopped at all. That said, I fully agree that I would blame Hunt's corner just as much as the ref. There's no way he ever quits, just throw in the damn towel if the ref isn't gonna do his job.

A referee can't stop a fight at any random time just because the fight is one sided, they have to do it when a fighter is not defending intelligently anymore. Watch the round 3 again, and tell me exacty at what time the referee should have stopped it. Even thought the whole round is pretty one sided, i can't find one time where i'm thinking "Yea this should have been stopped here".

2:40 looks bad, but Hunt is actually blocking shots, and firing back some shots (if you watch properly, he is landing elbows on Miocic). In the context of this fight, it seems like a good time to stop it, but in any other fights, this would be a early stoppage for sure.

1:25 is also a time where you could argue it should have been stopped, but again, Hunt IS FIRING BACK! He isn't KO at all, and is firing back shots. He is 100% there. The ref still can't reasonably stop it.
I mean at least every 3-4 seconds, Hunt lands a shot, he is clearly still there, and blocks shot.

That being said, i do think it should have been stopped in round 3, but that wasn't the ref's job to stop it, it should have been Hunt or his corner to decide that.
This kind of fight isn't good for the sport, it makes people who say "mma is so barbaric" right.

Well, People are right. MMA is barbaric sport and is never going to have mainstream success.

Well, Costas Philippou odds keep getting wider and wider, gotta throw down another bet. I am absolutely baffled by this line. Apparently I'm an idiot, but an idiot that stands to make a lot of money with not much risk (risking 100, my personal max for now, to win 430). My version of a 5-unit bet. I don't see Gegard making it a grappling match, so it'll just be a much classier volume striker vs a power puncher which obviously favors the better guy but makes for an extremely live dog in my eyes.