Anyways cant you just tell them to fuck off since they don't have a warrant to search your vehicle ?
Plus thats the main reason people think americans are dumb, they passionately protect the image of their country, while they are actually held hostage by the police. Guess one must touch fire to understand its qualities. Isn't there a law in which if you're a suspected terrorist they can do whatever they want with you and everything you own, they can basically have some very very veeeeery doubtful evidence and destroy your life in hours
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Liquid`Drone Norway. Oct 08 2014 11:18. Posts 3093
john oliver is amazing. keeps pumping out hilarious and really well researched bits that expose mostly everything fucked about USA.
lol POKER
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Santafairy Korea (South). Oct 08 2014 12:28. Posts 2227
i didn't watch this whole video yeah it's legal, i remember there was a case in the midwest of some motel getting stolen by a state prosecutor i think? because of drugs and activity like that. i think they found a conflict of interest somewhere and also there was a counterargument of people have a right to do legal things in areas even if there's a lot of crime. also if you are traveling with cash and an agent is searching you and has any suspicion that you're linked to drugs the cash is gone
when you ask whether something is "legal" it's really not about like a scientific logical perfect answer to the question according to legal statutes, it's more about whether one side or another has enough money to win a court case. and the police have a home field advantage to win cases in their own courts so it's quite expensive to show when they are fucking around
It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen
If you are pulled over by a cop, you have been detained for something, rolling stop, missed turn signal, any driving behavior they deem erratic. You are already getting a ticket and they can ask you any questions they want.
They cannot auto search your car but if they have probable cause they can, like smelling weed, see a weapon, act drunk, lots of stuff.
Technically, they can ask you if you have weed or open liquor and if you say yes, they can search your car and go further, arrest you, etc.
Now, apparently, asking someone if they have Money fits in the same category of having any thing similar to the proceeds of crime, like bomb making material, crack or meth making material, etc.
I am not sure how you have to answer these questions, or what happens with the various methods. I know you can
refuse to answer any questions without a lawyer present. when you say that, they can auto detain you under suspicion and impound your car without searching it. However, if you have $10k in your trunk, telling them to talk to your lawyer seems like a way better idea then getting searched and fucked over if the cop or department are zealots
I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time
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JonnyCosMo United States. Oct 08 2014 12:47. Posts 7292
Absolutely love John Oliver
Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser
so basically, anytime they pull you over and you have a lot of money on you, always refuse to answer any questions that would deem them probably cause to search you.
You do have lots of money on you:
If they ask have you been drinking and you have not, say No
If they ask have you any drugs good sir and you do not, say No
If they ask have you any money in large amounts, say I will not answer further questions without my lawyer present.
You have not broken any laws at that point (other than some driving infraction) and there is no grounds for a search at that point, so they should not be able to get your trunk open and seize your money under civil forfeiture.
I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time
"American shakedown: Police won't charge you, but they'll grab your money
U.S. police are operating a co-ordinated scheme to seize as much of the public’s cash as they can"
The Washington Post this week reported that in the past 13 years, there have been 61,998 cash seizures on roadways and elsewhere without use of search warrants.
The total haul: $2.5 billion, divided pretty much equally between the U.S. government and state and local authorities (hence the Kafkaesque “equitable sharing” euphemism).
Half of the seizures, according to the Post, were below $8,800. Only a sixth of those who had money taken from them pursued its return.
On October 08 2014 12:18 devon06atX wrote:
"American shakedown: Police won't charge you, but they'll grab your money
U.S. police are operating a co-ordinated scheme to seize as much of the public’s cash as they can"
The Washington Post this week reported that in the past 13 years, there have been 61,998 cash seizures on roadways and elsewhere without use of search warrants.
The total haul: $2.5 billion, divided pretty much equally between the U.S. government and state and local authorities (hence the Kafkaesque “equitable sharing” euphemism).
Half of the seizures, according to the Post, were below $8,800. Only a sixth of those who had money taken from them pursued its return.
Adding to those stats, there is a large one missing. Nearly all of the confiscations are minority, Black/Hispanic.
Being black and growing up in a black community seems pretty terrible, comparatively speaking.
They lead in almost all statistics that you do not want to be in.
As well, not being black but growing up near or in black communities puts exponential risk of racial assault/violence/hate crimes towards the none black persons.
There needs to be a large scale attempt to empower the disenfranchised black youth who get caught up the deplorable cycle that manifests within the largely impoverished, relatively higher violence, unstable social environment.
The psychology of perception and prejudice play a large role in altering the future communities, as well as altering the initial environment for infants and children via increased social assistance and services. Low education, follows teen pregnancy, low income, weak pregnancy assistance, weak parenting assistance and education, weak daycare opportunities results in another generation of troubled youth. A vicious cycle
I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time
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asdf2000 United States. Oct 08 2014 18:35. Posts 7693
yes it's legal, this show is accurate.
Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right.
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goose58 United States. Oct 08 2014 18:47. Posts 871
On October 08 2014 11:53 Highcard wrote:
so basically, anytime they pull you over and you have a lot of money on you, always refuse to answer any questions that would deem them probably cause to search you.
You do have lots of money on you:
If they ask have you been drinking and you have not, say No
If they ask have you any drugs good sir and you do not, say No
If they ask have you any money in large amounts, say I will not answer further questions without my lawyer present.
You have not broken any laws at that point (other than some driving infraction) and there is no grounds for a search at that point, so they should not be able to get your trunk open and seize your money under civil forfeiture.
Vincent Costello was one of them. Driving down to fix up a home in Florida with his girlfriend, the two were pulled over in May 2010 by Deputy Mason Ashby for a cracked windshield. During the stop, Ashby claimed he smelled marijuana and searched the van. No drugs were found. But the deputy did find over $30,000 in cash. Ashby contacted another deputy, a member of a regional DEA task force. Despite the pesky fact that they didn’t find any drugs, police seized all of Costello’s cash.Article
Reminds me of the DOJ/police taking all that UB/AP money and dispersing it to (some)local law enforcement agencies, not quite the same but similar.
On October 08 2014 11:53 Highcard wrote:
so basically, anytime they pull you over and you have a lot of money on you, always refuse to answer any questions that would deem them probably cause to search you.
You do have lots of money on you:
If they ask have you been drinking and you have not, say No
If they ask have you any drugs good sir and you do not, say No
If they ask have you any money in large amounts, say I will not answer further questions without my lawyer present.
You have not broken any laws at that point (other than some driving infraction) and there is no grounds for a search at that point, so they should not be able to get your trunk open and seize your money under civil forfeiture.
Vincent Costello was one of them. Driving down to fix up a home in Florida with his girlfriend, the two were pulled over in May 2010 by Deputy Mason Ashby for a cracked windshield. During the stop, Ashby claimed he smelled marijuana and searched the van. No drugs were found. But the deputy did find over $30,000 in cash. Ashby contacted another deputy, a member of a regional DEA task force. Despite the pesky fact that they didn’t find any drugs, police seized all of Costello’s cash.Article
Reminds me of the DOJ/police taking all that UB/AP money and dispersing it to (some)local law enforcement agencies, not quite the same but similar.
that 30k is drug money 100%. Dont be an ignorant cop hater.
Hooah.
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Gnarly United States. Oct 09 2014 02:07. Posts 1723
your mom forfeited her civil assets if you catch my drift
TalentedTom Canada. Oct 09 2014 10:42. Posts 20070
^^ This makes completely no sense... so I guess the correct thing is to lie to the police about any cash you are carrying and plead ignorance later if they find out? Or just don't talk to the police in general, say as little as possible, go lawyer up on them.
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
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awesomeguy2 American Samoa. Oct 09 2014 10:52. Posts 2
Honestly i dont see the problem here. Just dont do the crime.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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Gnarly United States. Oct 09 2014 12:20. Posts 1723
On October 09 2014 09:52 awesomeguy2 wrote:
Honestly i dont see the problem here. Just dont do the crime.
if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear. don't forget that.
Diversify or fossilize!
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Santafairy Korea (South). Oct 09 2014 12:48. Posts 2227
On October 09 2014 09:52 awesomeguy2 wrote:
Honestly i dont see the problem here. Just dont do the crime.
yeah man i completely agree 100%. just don't post kindergarten troll bait and you won't get banned
It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen
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TianYuan Korea (South). Oct 09 2014 12:52. Posts 6817
This reminds me of the Viffer story where random DEA agents seized like 60k in cash from him at an airport when he was going from LA to Vegas or some such. 2p2 post about it somewhere.
Or the countless post-PCA stories of US customs trying their damndest seize $ of returning players.
At least the stories of similar things happening in South East Asian airports usually involve far smaller amounts lol
In what way is this a comedy show?
I mean the show is really good but its a fucking weird blend of serious reporting and comedy that doesnt really fit together.
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TalentedTom Canada. Oct 09 2014 15:49. Posts 20070
On October 09 2014 12:06 Passive wrote:
reporting and comedy
actually this represents most comedy out there, esp stand up, or any late night comedy
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same
keeping people entertained while spreading important messages does fit together. finding the right balance must be quite tricky which is why there are so few who are masters at it.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. Oct 09 2014 22:37. Posts 8648
I'm pretty shocked this exists. They justify it by saying it makes it easier for them to take property and assets from criminals. It's awful that they can take something without proving you're guilty and proving that the specific assets they targetted are proceeds from crime. Also, carrying large amounts of cash is considered risky but it's not meant to be risky because the "good guys" can come and take it from you and hold it for months or forever. That could inconvenience a lot of innocent people and some of the amounts aren't even that large :/ It instills fear into people too which we don't need more of.
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
Of course they don't target hard working citizens, but lowlife criminals. I like the fact that USA has zero tolerance on crime. With this law they are sending a clear message to criminals: if you are a criminal you cannot hide behind the law, we will take your assets.
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Santafairy Korea (South). Oct 22 2014 14:43. Posts 2227
yes because lowlife criminals, who do illegal things, are so famous for hiding behind the law in chaotic third world countries like finland that don't have zero tolerance on crime
It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen
On October 22 2014 13:17 Srsbob wrote:
Of course they don't target hard working citizens, but lowlife criminals. I like the fact that USA has zero tolerance on crime. With this law they are sending a clear message to criminals: if you are a criminal you cannot hide behind the law, we will take your assets.
On October 22 2014 13:17 Srsbob wrote:
Of course they don't target hard working citizens, but lowlife criminals. I like the fact that USA has zero tolerance on crime. With this law they are sending a clear message to criminals: if you are a criminal you cannot hide behind the law, we will take your assets.
9 posts.. i think the same troll is back, ban?
On October 20 2014 13:38 Srsbob wrote:
Hi,
My name is Srsbob and I'm very serious person.
I think internet should be regulated by the government, weed should stay illegal and the police should have more powers if they suspect someone is a terrorist.
I'm amazed he wasn't banned after this post. This is the same stuff he wrote from the get go before.
Make lp registration open to all but no posting privileges until someone vouches for you imo - that way they can still pm people to talk about the game, etc. Then the full member can decide whether or not the person is legit.
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Santafairy Korea (South). Oct 22 2014 16:37. Posts 2227
^i don't agree with this nobody new will join the site due to nobody wants to answer a random new guy's PMs
It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen
On October 21 2014 08:22 Santafairy wrote:
i suggest emigration
Open to anyone:
Any suggestions where?
I thought about it (for not too long) but in today's day and age it seems extremely difficult to emigrate anywhere unless it is through work transfer or ballin outta control transfer.
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