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UFC FN 39: Nogueira vs. Nelson

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 06 2014 22:25. Posts 13051

Date: Friday, April 11th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 11:15 LP.net / 9:15am PST / 12:15am EST
Main Card Time (UFC Fight Pass): 13:00 LP.net / 11am PST / 2pm EST
Live Streams: http://www.vipbox.tv (All MMA events are listed under the UFC button. Press the UFC button and you'll see the event in the list.)





Main Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (34-8-1) vs. Roy Nelson (19-9) (Heavyweight)
Clay Guida (30-14) vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri (33-7-2) (Featherweight)
John Howard (22-8) vs. Ryan LaFlare (10-0) (Welterweight)
Ramsey Nijem (8-4) vs. Beneil Dariush (7-0) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Jared Rosholt (9-1) vs. Daniel Omielanczuk (16-3-1) (Heavyweight)
Rani Yahya (19-8) vs. Johnny Bedford (19-10-1) (Bantamweight)
Thales Leites (22-4) vs. Trevor Smith (11-4) (Middleweight)
Chris Camozzi (19-7) vs. Andrew Craig (9-2) (Middleweight)
Alan Omer (18-3) vs. Jim Alers (12-1) (Featherweight)

Other

- A flyweight bout between Alptekin Ozkilic and Dustin Ortiz was expected to take place on this card. However on April 3, the fight was cancelled due to injury to Ozkilic.

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 06 2014 22:26. Posts 13051

First thoughts:

Big Nog vs. Nelson (dunno yet)
Guida > Kawajiri
LaFlare > Howard
Dariush > Nijem
Rosholt vs. Omielanczuk (dunno yet)
Yahya > Bedford
Leites > Smith
Camozzi > Craig
Omer vs. Alers (dunno yet)

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Minsk   United States. Apr 07 2014 01:13. Posts 1558

Do you think Thailes Leites is a good bet?


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 07 2014 01:54. Posts 13051


  On April 07 2014 00:13 Minsk wrote:
Do you think Thailes Leites is a good bet?



Not at -400.

Leites should win, but he's not a great fighter imo, just better than Trevor Smith. Also, this event is in Abu Dhabi, so there could be a couple fighters who have jet-lag and cardio issues; hell, all of them could end up having cardio and let-lag issues cuz of the long flight and the warm weather. The venue for this event is an open arena, which means the event is basically outside.

As of right now, the line I like the most is Camozzi -135. I'm not sure if I'll bet this card though, cuz there's no live-betting available for any of the fights, and because of the travel issue I mentioned above.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 07 2014 03:02. Posts 34250

Nogueira cant KO nelson, he cant take him down so he will have to throw down with him and Nogeira es very easy to hit and has a weak chin. Nelson by KO

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Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 07 2014 13:57. Posts 10422

You've got these numbers wrong the past few times . This is fight night 40.


Daut    United States. Apr 07 2014 14:41. Posts 8955


  On April 07 2014 02:02 Baalim wrote:
Nogueira cant KO nelson, he cant take him down so he will have to throw down with him and Nogeira es very easy to hit and has a weak chin. Nelson by KO



nog still has a pretty good chin. if you notice when cain KOed him he seemed to recover afterwards very fast. which is the problem with this fight. both of these guys are too good at taking punishment. going to be sad to watch them both pile up more brain damage.

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 07 2014 16:19. Posts 13051


  On April 07 2014 12:57 Twisted wrote:
You've got these numbers wrong the past few times . This is fight night 40.



Feel free to make the thread yourself next time.

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 07 2014 17:52. Posts 34250


  On April 07 2014 13:41 Daut wrote:
Show nested quote +



nog still has a pretty good chin. if you notice when cain KOed him he seemed to recover afterwards very fast. which is the problem with this fight. both of these guys are too good at taking punishment. going to be sad to watch them both pile up more brain damage.


But Nelsons haymaker is many times stronger than anything Cain can throw and Nog has probably the worst striking defence in the division, eventually he is going to land it.

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 07 2014 18:28. Posts 13051




^ Big Nog's training camp from 3 days ago.

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Facts

• Big Nog is returning from an elbow injury; ring rust 307 days
• Big Nog is 37 years old and has been through a ton of wars in his career. He is 2-3 in his last 5 fights, and he was finished in those 3 losses (Werdum submission, Mir submission, Velasquez TKO)
• Nelson is 37 years old, but he has the best chin in all of MMA and has only been finished in 1 fight (October 2008, vs. Andrei Arlovski)
• Big Nog has never lost 2 fights in a row. (he lost his last fight)
• Big Nog height: 6'3. reach: 77 inches
• Nelson's height: 6'0. reach: 73
• Big Nog is better than Nelson in every aspect of MMA, but he's slowed down over the years and is getting finished in his losses.
• Big Nog has only fought 8 times since 2008, and is 4-4 during that time. All 4 losses were via finish (TKO loss to Mir, TKO loss to Velasquez, Submission loss to Mir, Submission loss to Werdum)
• Big Nog has the better cardio.
• Nelson has only finished 1 guy outside of Round 1 in the past 6+ years, which was Mirko CroCop in October 2011. Nelson is known as the guy who either finishes an opponent in Round 1, or he doesn't win the fight. Since he throws power in every shot, his chances of knocking anyone out past Round 1 goes down considerably.
• Nelson: Out of 28 fights, he has fought 3 times outside of the USA, and only 1 of those times has been while he's been in the UFC, which was he fought and loss to Stipe Miocic in Canada (June 2013).
• Big Nog: Most of his 44 fights were in Japan, while the rest were in the USA, Brazil, and a couple other countries.
• Nelson is on a 2-fight losing streak, which were against more technical strikers with good movement (Cormier and Miocic). He's good at beating guys who aren't quick on their feet, who are easy to back up against the cage, and who aren't able to take him down (Kongo, Mitrione, Herman, Struve, etc.)
• Big Nog has 34 wins: 3 by KO/TKO, 21 by Submission, 10 by Decision. His last 2 losses were via Submission, where he ended up getting his arm broken in one fight and needed surgery both times that kept him out of action for 11 months after each loss.
• Nelson has 19 wins: 12 by KO/TKO, 5 by Submission, 2 by Decision. His last 2 losses were via 3-Round Decision's to more technical strikers with better speed and movement in Cormier and Miocic.


  On April 07 2014 00:54 PuertoRican wrote:
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Also, this event is in Abu Dhabi, so there could be a couple fighters who have jet-lag and cardio issues; hell, all of them could end up having cardio and let-lag issues cuz of the long flight and the warm weather. The venue for this event is an open arena, which means the event is basically outside.


Weather.com shows an early weather sign of 93 degrees Fahrenheit / 34 degrees Celsius, in Abu Dhabi on Friday.
http://www.weather.com/weather/5-day/AEXX0001

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Raidern   Brasil. Apr 07 2014 20:35. Posts 4243

Wtf is arona doing there. Hes supposed to be surfing.

im a regular at nl5 

Twisted    Netherlands. Apr 07 2014 20:40. Posts 10422


  On April 07 2014 15:19 PuertoRican wrote:
Show nested quote +



Feel free to make the thread yourself next time.


Was just a heads-up, I should've PM-ed, apologies. Your threads are greatly appreciated!


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 08 2014 20:05. Posts 34250

most of those stats are absolutely meaningless and Big Nog definitelly isnt better in every aspect of the game than Nelson, Big Nog is a terrible natural striker, he has no power, he is slow, stiff and has no head movement so he is easy as fuck to hit, he is also a very shitty wrestler probably worse than Nelson too.

His only real advantage here is the cardio, the only way Nog can win this is if he manages to outbox Nelson from the outside tiring him out and not eating the haymaker which wont be an easy task considering he doesnt have good takedowns or kicks to threaten Nelson.

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 09 2014 01:20. Posts 13051



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Nazgul    Netherlands. Apr 09 2014 05:52. Posts 7080

arona pls

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

alejandicto   . Apr 09 2014 09:56. Posts 865

I just make a parlay on Nelson by KO and Guida at +250


RichardG   . Apr 09 2014 14:05. Posts 3

Nog is going to lose his head tho

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Minsk   United States. Apr 10 2014 00:05. Posts 1558

Took Nelson, fully agree with all this.


alejandicto   . Apr 10 2014 00:44. Posts 865

Howard is at +305, what do you think about that? I am thinking on taking that bet too. Not sure tho


Minsk   United States. Apr 10 2014 00:44. Posts 1558

I think Nelsons biggest weakness is his form, and Noguiera wont really be able to take advantage of it in his current form.


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 10 2014 11:55. Posts 13051

"UFC Fight Night Abu Dhabi: Illness forces cancellation of Andrew Craig vs. Chris Camozzi."

Now I really don't care about this card. Camozzi was gonna be my biggest and possibly only bet.

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 10 2014 18:50. Posts 13051




Roy Nelson (255.5) vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (238)
Clay Guida (146) vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri (145)
John Howard (171) vs. Ryan LaFlare (171)
Beneil Dariush (155) vs. Ramsey Nijem (156)
Daniel Omielanczuk (248) vs. Jared Rosholt (240)
Thales Leites (185) vs. Trevor Smith (186)
Jim Alers (145.5) vs. Alan Omer (146)
Johnny Bedford (135) vs. Rani Yahya (135.5)


  On April 09 2014 00:20 PuertoRican wrote:
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Apr 10 2014 21:39. Posts 7499

Wait this shit starts at 9am? god damn.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 10 2014 21:43. Posts 13051


  On April 10 2014 20:39 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Wait this shit starts at 9am? god damn.



9:15am PST to be exact. Just updated the front page since Andrew Craig got sick and his fight versus Camozzi is off.

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PuertoRican   United States. Apr 11 2014 11:40. Posts 13051



Leites owns Smith.




Accidental headbutt in the first fight, it ends up as a NC.

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Prelims: http://www.coolsport.tv/watch/253101/...fc-fight-night-39:-preliminaries.html

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Zadan   Canada. Apr 11 2014 13:38. Posts 971

don't know alot of these fighers just betting over/under rounds


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 11 2014 13:49. Posts 13051


  On April 11 2014 12:38 Zadan wrote:
don't know alot of these fighers just betting over/under rounds



This card has sucked so far, and the favorites have all won.

Yahya vs. Bedford = clash of heads, ended in a No Contest.
Alers vs. Omer = good fight. Alers used his wrestling to win a split-decision.
Leites vs. Smith = terrible fight. Leites won in 45 seconds via TKO (big surprise if you know how Leites fights).
Rosholt vs. Omielanczuk = terrible fight. Omielanczuk couldn't stop any take downs and Rosholt literally laid on top of him for all 3 rounds.

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Zadan   Canada. Apr 11 2014 13:52. Posts 971

gonna bet on this new guy vs stripper ramsey


PuertoRican   United States. Apr 11 2014 14:08. Posts 13051

Main card: http://www.coolsport.tv/watch/253105/...ght-night-39:-nogueira-vs-nelson.html

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Zadan   Canada. Apr 11 2014 14:21. Posts 971

fuck never go against the stripper


milkman   United States. Apr 11 2014 14:32. Posts 5719

Any EZ bets in this one? Is everyone betting nelson?

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 11 2014 14:39. Posts 13051


  On April 11 2014 13:32 milkman wrote:
Any EZ bets in this one? Is everyone betting nelson?



Na, no easy bets on this card imo. The only semi easy bet was Camozzi/Craig, but Craig got sick after the weigh-ins.

I'm not betting this card

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SeanBam   . Apr 11 2014 14:55. Posts 953

I don't have any bets on this card. But I would be tilted as shit if I bet any point spread here. WTF is with the announcer not giving the actual scores?


Zadan   Canada. Apr 11 2014 14:59. Posts 971


  On April 11 2014 13:55 SeanBam wrote:
I don't have any bets on this card. But I would be tilted as shit if I bet any point spread here. WTF is with the announcer not giving the actual scores?



LOL


ok guida fight better go the distance


milkman   United States. Apr 11 2014 15:00. Posts 5719

the stream hath fallen?

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 11 2014 15:07. Posts 13051


  On April 11 2014 14:00 milkman wrote:
the stream hath fallen?



Still works for me: http://www.coolsport.tv/watch/253105/...ght-night-39:-nogueira-vs-nelson.html

Guida is about to enter the cage.

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drone666   Brasil. Apr 11 2014 15:14. Posts 1822

love watching japanese fighters
too bad they lack physical attributes

same time I hate american wrestlers trying to win every fight by points

Dont listen to anything I sayLast edit: 11/04/2014 15:20

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 11 2014 15:27. Posts 13051

Nice performance by Guida. It went how I expected.

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alejandicto   . Apr 11 2014 15:41. Posts 865

Nelson by KO to win my parlay but I am a fan of Nogueira so I cant be sad after this fight.


drone666   Brasil. Apr 11 2014 15:44. Posts 1822

nog wont survive much time, he is so hitable

Dont listen to anything I say 

alejandicto   . Apr 11 2014 15:48. Posts 865

I was wrong I am sad : (
Nogueira is so fucking easy to hit :@

 Last edit: 11/04/2014 15:49

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 11 2014 15:52. Posts 13051

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Daut    United States. Apr 11 2014 15:53. Posts 8955

that was real hard to watch.

in general it must be real frustrating to fight nelson. you can outstrike him and dodge most of his bullets but if one hits you it can KO you. but nog goes out there plodding around with his hands down and gets hit by 4 of them? seriously? how awful do you have to be to get hit by that same predictable punch 4 times in 4 minutes. just awful. nogs the worst combination of being too tough and too broken down at the same time. just takes too much damage in a fight like this

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

PuertoRican   United States. Apr 11 2014 16:35. Posts 13051

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Raidern   Brasil. Apr 11 2014 18:55. Posts 4243

Nogueira was like a walking target. What a shame seeing one of the hw all time greats being put to sleep like that. And i dont even like him because of all his excuse making. He will probably say flying at economic class had a huge influence in his fight

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 12 2014 01:12. Posts 34250

Ship it... lol Nogeira ffs, totally flat footed, no head movement and is terrible at controlling range, in retrospect he should be like +400.

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traxamillion   United States. Apr 12 2014 01:37. Posts 10468

Dam Nelson cocked back and let a hot one fly.


Didn't know big hick bar fighters still existed in the UFC

Is nog dead?


Baalim   Mexico. Apr 12 2014 01:55. Posts 34250

I think its time Rodrigo Braindamage Nogeira retires

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jvilla777   Australia. Apr 14 2014 08:11. Posts 1348

Awesome weekend..

PAC won, Nelson won..


Now it should be time for Nelson vs hunt!

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

 



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