UFC FN 38: Shogun vs. Henderson 2 - Page 2

I seriously can't comprehend how someones punching technique can be so bad. It's ridiculous.

Jesus worst stoppage I've ever seen...

On March 21 2014 18:37 Stim_Abuser wrote: Jesus worst stoppage I've ever seen...

Yeah, me2.

Last week, there was this video of some guy getting choked out in his MMA debut, and his mom crawled over the fence to check on him. Security had to escort her out after her son quickly woke up.

Newton is so awkward punching, lol
and Mo got owned twice

On March 21 2014 21:52 drone666 wrote: Newton is so awkward punching, lol and Mo got owned twice

You could take a trip down to Brazil and see sparring sessions where two fighters go harder than what we just saw between Vegh and Newton.

We'll either see Newton own Rampage from long-distance fighting, or we'll King Mo lose to Newton for the third time.

Bellator's light heavyweight and heavyweight divisions... zZzZzZz

That stoppage T_T

Thinking about betting Shogun at -225.

edit: Bet him at -235 for $470

Last fight Shogun got tagged with some hard punches and came back to win rounds 4-5. I feel like as long as they are still standing by the time rounds 4-5 come it's going to be more of the same. Henderson's cardio will always give him trouble in five round fights especially now that he's three years older. Gameplan wise I also feel that the first fight has taught them a lot. However Shogun is the only one who has the tools to effectively adapt to that.

Stupid question but, why don't you guys bet with each others? i see LPers betting hendo at +180, and others betting shogun at -235 Save the rake guys!

Sho gun wins this time around

Not sure about the over 2.5 rounds though

I think people will bet Dan Henderson on fight-day. Seeing him at the weigh-ins won't tell them anything different, and seeing his line at +200 or better will be too juicy for many people to pass up. I'm not sure where Shogun's line will end up, but I feel confident that it will get better than -215.

Shogun looking leaner than usual and Hendo weighing in at 202. Cardio was probably a big priority to both of them in camp.

My thoughts after the weigh-in (not betting this card, so it doesn't matter I guess):

• Shogun > Henderson (Shogun looked good during the weigh-ins, while Hendo looked average. 205 vs 202 pounds.)
• Dolloway > Ferreira (Wrestler vs. striker. Dolloway can win easily on the ground, Ferreira can win on the feet with kicks, but Dolloway has better boxing imo. Ferreira also has cardio issues.)
• Parke > Santos (Santos is just a good BJJ player, nothing more. His opponent in the TUF Brazil finale choked against him and also gassed. Parke is the better overall fighter.)
• Maldonado > Villante (Villante is the better fighter in almost every area, but I think Maldonado will win a split-decision here.)
• Taisumov > Prazeres (Taisumov was known as a finisher before he entered the UFC, but showed in his debut that he had no worries playing it safe to secure a decision win. Prazeres has cardio issues, so it's hard to say if Taisumov will win ITD or by decision.)
• Jason > Siler (Jason will probably win by decision, but I like Siler at +3.5 points or just take the Over.)
• Chope > Brandao (Brandao is the rightful favorite and looked better during the weigh-ins this time, however, I keep seeing Bigfoot vs. Fedor in my head when I think about this fight, and at +350 or better, I think Chope is worth a small bet.)
• Markes > Santos (Santos weighed in 2 pounds under weight (183) and looked slow and tired. Markes weighed in 5 pounds over weight (190) and looked more fresh.)
• Jorgensen > Formiga (I think Jorgensen will win, but I would avoid betting this fight at all costs. If I were to bet this fight, I'd bet Formiga +3.5 points.)
• Perpetuo vs. Robertson (dunno)
• Lahat > Castro
• Barroso > Stringer

Any other streams for this besides vipbox? link seems to be NOT working

edit: nevermind I though it was showing today in AU

Jon Anik ‏@Jon_Anik 3 hrs
Supposedly some air conditioning units are being brought into the arena in time for the fights tomorrow. 90+ in there today.

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I remember it was hot in the last event in Brazil, and fighters were looking sluggish at times. However, it's usually hot in the Brazilian venues. In general, 2014 has been the year of Decision wins.

UFC events in Brazil since January 2013

February 15th, 2014: 10 decisions, 1 KO/TKO, 1 submission
November 9th, 2013: 2 decisions, 5 KO/TKO, 4 submissions
October 9th, 2013: 6 decisions, 3 KO/TKO, 1 submission
September 4th, 2013: 5 decisions, 4 KO/TKO, 2 submissions
August 3rd, 2013: 5 decisions, 5 KO/TKO, 2 submissions
June 8th, 2013: 2 decisions, 2 KO/TKO, 8 submissions
May 18th, 2013: 6 decisions, 4 KO/TKO, 3 submissions
January 19th, 2013: 4 decisions, 2 KO/TKO, 4 submissions, 1 NC

27-30 celsius and a very humid arena is what fighters should expect if the fight is taking place in natal.

On March 22 2014 12:38 Floofy wrote: Stupid question but, why don't you guys bet with each others? i see LPers betting hendo at +180, and others betting shogun at -235 Save the rake guys!

We should have some method to this this

"Will Chope's octagon career was destined to be cut short following yesterday's revelation by Bleacher Report that the UFC featherweight received a bad-conduct discharge from the Air Force related to charges of domestic violence. A document that covered Chope's appeal revealed sickening details such as multiple violent incidents culminating in an incident where Chope grabbed a knife, slammed his ex-wife's head into the ground and used the knife to threaten and attack her (with the handle).

Combate is now reporting that Chope has been released from his UFC contractand tonight's scheduled bout with Diego Brandao has been cancelled."

On March 23 2014 00:08 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On March 22 2014 12:38 Floofy wrote: Stupid question but, why don't you guys bet with each others? i see LPers betting hendo at +180, and others betting shogun at -235 Save the rake guys! We should have some method to this this

Yeah almost need another thread for it though... There used to be a sportsbetting thread but its hard to verify people as well.

Hendo is now +220/+230. If you were going to bet this fight, it would be good to start with a bet on Hendo and then live bet Shogun after Hendo wins a round or two. Hendo won the first two rounds of their first fight.

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Multiple people have mentioned that the UFC octagon for this event looks smaller than usual. I also think it looks a little smaller.

If the octagon is smaller, this will mean more finishes.

that is a lot of finishes

On March 23 2014 17:46 Nazgul wrote: that is a lot of finishes

All of the fights won have been by underdogs...

Santos +660
Formiga +170
Robertson +125
Stringer +125
Pepey +225