he has 246 left river

Isn't checking our only option here?

ok, lol, lets assume i have the best hand 100% of the time?

bet $123 , nah idk

His range is weak pairs + missed draws here right? 32?

One could argue that a shove would best, cause that is what we mostly likely would do with a missed draw in his eyes to gain max FE, at least without a history.

On July 20 2012 16:52 patti wrote: His range is weak pairs + missed draws here right? 32?

his range is garbage
hes never c/r turn with type of draw hand , look at the board, same for value hands hes never check raising them either

Well if you are sure you have the best hand jam and hope he thinks you are po-wo-wized and maybe sometimes get value vs checking back and never getting value (i guess )

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i time banked asking myself what is gona make him call or shove w/e
lets say he has some type of AQcc

is it more likely to get him to shove if i bet kind of weak to induce or hes more likely to just call a shove?
actually, i guess he is more likely to just call a weak bet?
duno ;/

On July 20 2012 17:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: i time banked asking myself what is gona make him call or shove w/e lets say he has some type of AQcc is it more likely to get him to shove if i bet kind of weak to induce or hes more likely to just call a shove? actually, i guess he is more likely to just call a weak bet? duno ;/

You're pretty much the only one who can answer that question though since it's so player-dependent.

As a blanket assessment I would just say bet however much you really would bet with a missed combo draw here.

My guess is that it's not a mistake to jam your entire range here

On July 20 2012 18:03 PanoRaMa wrote: Show nested quote + On July 20 2012 17:52 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: i time banked asking myself what is gona make him call or shove w/e lets say he has some type of AQcc is it more likely to get him to shove if i bet kind of weak to induce or hes more likely to just call a shove? actually, i guess he is more likely to just call a weak bet? duno ;/ My guess is that it's not a mistake to jam your entire range here

hmm, yeah i guess so, ty,

in general for bet sizing here

if he is crappy and u dont need to be balanced and think he has a shit range then bet small to get a crying call or induce something (assuming we are 100% happy to call a c/r on river obv)

if he is good/reg we battle everyday and we have to worry about being balanced for w/e reason then jamming is prolly better as i assume that is what he would think u would do with a missed draw, etc.

if he is a whale/retard then obv but w/e u think is best based on what u have seen (sometimes its small other times its huge)

ty very much dzoo

is 3 bet pre bad? what about with like A6s, worse or better?

yeah but if hes good and we battle him everyday, he'd never c/r the turn here w/ anything.

either bet ~50, or jam.

On July 20 2012 18:47 casinocasino wrote: is 3 bet pre bad? what about with like A6s, worse or better?

i think 3 bet pre that hand is ''ok'' but i dont like it much...
we have pos, we can play it postflop/outplay him if we miss or something
A6ss is always a call imo

bet to induce unless u think he thinks you're range is really drawheavy, i tihnk you can get Qx to stack off here as well as some other random shit. I jam everytime.