nice trap

cbet plz -_-

Ofc this is a standard c-bet spot
ty for pointing it out captain obvious

it just happend that this 1 out of 10 times i didnt c bet a fd on flop
he checked quads on the river.
I thought it was kinda funny enough to post.

allthough c betting this is obviously great on average i dont think checking sometimes is soo bad here.
we have 40%+ equity vs his range + sd value
obviously u are much better than me so u can maybe explain why checking here sometimes with our 40+ equity is so terrible

because you win 90%+, thats better than 40%+

and when you dont, you still have one billion outs for the nuts

and you dont have 40% vs his range, you have 40% ish vs his range that continues on the flop, but he doesnt continue pretty much ever
and your hand is not good enough to slowplay, its not like Axcc, you cant give free cards

and this is not "a FD on the flop", this is the nut FD on a Axx flop, thats very different

Hm maybe i got a bit too sissy afraid here.
Would be glad if u could help me with the leaks in my thought process

he generally was tight pf and only playing ~ 30% from big blind
His fold to c bet was only 40% (4 out of 10)
and i did c bet 100% of my hands till this point. (allthough small sample obv)

So i thought when i c bet he calls with some Ax all 9x 33-TT
he c /r with some Ax and he c/r with some bluffs
he will fold the rest ~ 40-60% of the time

so obviously a half pot bet is still probably still + EV in a vacuum
and even more profitable since we can hit our outs on turn

But i decided to check here due to getting
in a spot where i am simply not skilled enough to know the right play
when he check calls and i dont hit turn

cause when i check back turn he knows i am on a fd and will never fold river to a blank + will never call big when river hits a club.
Normally i have tons of fold euity on all streets ... but well he only has 30% big blind call pf which kinda scared me
I thought ones he calls i have 0 fold equity turn and river

so i thought that in this case it cant be too terrible to check back with 40%+ equity and see what happens

But maybe i am overthinking this ...
I had almost a year break from poker and i am just playing a bit for fun and realize i am probably too scared of semi tight ranges.

Maybe i should just half pot flop , fold / check/check blank turns and enjoy the times i hit or he folds instead of being so scared of shit ^^

ty for help

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: So i thought when i c bet he calls with some Ax all 9x 33-TT

so he doesnt shove that pf?

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: he c /r with some Ax and he c/r with some bluffs

lol if he c/r bluff even a very low % then you are printing money so much by betting

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: he will fold the rest ~ 40-60% of the time

def a lot more

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: so obviously a half pot bet is still probably still + EV in a vacuum and even more profitable since we can hit our outs on turn But i decided to check here due to getting in a spot where i am simply not skilled enough to know the right play when he check calls and i dont hit turn

bet again if you think he folds 9x/2x(?), bet again if you think he c/c Kx on flop, cbh if you think he has more draws than Kx/9x (such as the kind of guy to c/c 53/54/43 to call his river bet on bricks

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: cause when i check back turn he knows i am on a fd

this makes exactly 0 sense

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: and will never fold river to a blank

probably only true for Ax

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: + will never call big when river hits a club.

obviously not true

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: Normally i have tons of fold euity on all streets ... but well he only has 30% big blind call pf which kinda scared me

this is 30%, 30% is not Ax
{ 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: I thought ones he calls i have 0 fold equity turn and river

IF he calls (he doesnt call a lot, and WHEN he does you dont have 0 FE at all

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: so i thought that in this case it cant be too terrible to check back with 40%+ equity and see what happens But maybe i am overthinking this ... I had almost a year break from poker and i am just playing a bit for fun and realize i am probably too scared of semi tight ranges.

30% is not tight at these stacks

On April 10 2012 12:45 PplusAD wrote: Maybe i should just half pot flop , fold / check/check blank turns and enjoy the times i hit or he folds instead of being so scared of shit ^^ ty for help

no, when he calls you still have K high, why would you fold later on blanks?