shove or call?

I'd call.

On a side-note, I think you're splitting here .

Villian stats? What is his 3bet%? I vote for shoving here, he would bet turn if had FD. In my opinion, he had set and wanted to c/r you on the turn.

shove

On May 24 2010 15:10 Veverka wrote: Villian stats? What is his 3bet%? I vote for shoving here, he would bet turn if had FD. In my opinion, he had set and wanted to c/r you on the turn.

x2.

Easiest shove in the world, even this deep.

I don't really see the reason behind shoving. He calls your push with AK/flush and folds most of the time with worse (even with sets IMO).

also i'd like the flop float a lot more if we had backdoor flush draw

i know we are deep... just not sure what i think about it... not necessarily bad obviously if he is 3betting really light here and will be one and done

On May 24 2010 15:14 Kapol wrote: I don't really see the reason behind shoving. He calls your push with AK/flush and folds most of the time with worse (even with sets IMO).

Without stats on villian, it is shove imo.

Result?

call

for real?

On May 24 2010 15:15 CirCa wrote: also i'd like the flop float a lot more if we had backdoor flush draw i know we are deep... just not sure what i think about it... not necessarily bad obviously if he is 3betting really light here and will be one and done

Yeah, you definitly have a good point. My reasoning behind this float was my calling range hits this board pretty badly, and im probably just calling here if I hit. So I figured why don't i peel once and get him off the same hand or trash. That said I don't think he's to light here preflop so it's kind of mehish.

On May 24 2010 15:33 PoorUser wrote: for real?

Does this mean always shove?

What exactly is he going to call with that you beat when you shove here? Surely calling is best option? I mean surely he will not call with TT-AA here if you shove river. If you have no reads, I do not think he can call you with some hero call on river?

kk, he showed a royal and tbh i expect regulars to 2barrel me here. Probably was planning to check/shove turn.
Reason I posted this was because of his potbet on the river which kind of gives it away, but maybe just being result orientated here. Just wondering if i'm overvalueing here.

shoving to get him off a split, get value from a set i dunno?

oh and i shoved btw

I would expect him to barrel like all flushdraws on the turn, of which there aren't many in the first place. This means he usually has a split at best and there's a good chance he has a set. I'd say it's more likely for him to have TT than a flush here generally.

On May 24 2010 15:46 gororokgororok wrote: shoving to get him off a split, get value from a set i dunno?

rofl u think a AK folds there? wtf...

easy value shove

ok thx guys, feared this could have been a major leak

rofl I'd never shove

most standard flatcall in the world

Random old post, but I would always flat here as well.