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Handnr: 34049
Submitted by : DarkXprT

PokerStars Game #5082053059: Hold'em Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/05/28 - 19:52:55 (ET)
Table 'Keid III' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: AngelGarciaM ($25.20 in chips)
Seat 2: jontsef ($28.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Henry Vlll ($14.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Chips1969 ($8 in chips)
Seat 5: Kit_Blues ($18.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Sicilian76 ($14 in chips)
Seat 7: grndpoundr ($12.05 in chips)
Seat 8: IongJohn ($8.70 in chips)
Seat 9: 123M'kay321 ($9.75 in chips)
123M'kay321: posts small blind $0.10
AngelGarciaM is disconnected
AngelGarciaM is connected
AngelGarciaM: posts big blind $0.25
Chips1969: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to AngelGarciaM QcQd
jontsef: calls $0.25
Henry Vlll: folds
Chips1969: checks
Kit_Blues: raises $1.10 to $1.35
Sicilian76: folds
grndpoundr: folds
IongJohn: folds
123M'kay321: folds
AngelGarciaM is disconnected
AngelGarciaM is connected
AngelGarciaM: raises $1.65 to $3
jontsef: folds
Chips1969: folds
Kit_Blues: raises $1.65 to $4.65
AngelGarciaM: calls $1.65

Flop (Pot : $9.9)

   Jh9c3c
AngelGarciaM: checks
Kit_Blues: bets $3
AngelGarciaM said, "QQ"
AngelGarciaM: folds
Kit_Blues collected $9.45 from pot
Kit_Blues: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $9.90 | Rake $0.45
Board  Jh9c3c
Seat 1: AngelGarciaM (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: jontsef folded before Flop
Seat 3: Henry Vlll folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Chips1969 folded before Flop
Seat 5: Kit_Blues collected ($9.45)
Seat 6: Sicilian76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: grndpoundr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: IongJohn (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: 123M'kay321 (small blind) folded before Flop

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DarkXprT   Qatar. May 28 2006 17:57. Posts 1832

this good?

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Verbloten   Australia. May 28 2006 18:02. Posts 1889

this bad! ahahaha OMG - he bet 1/3 the pot on the flop and you fold QQ?

I would re-raise this to about 6.50 and if he re raises all in - FOLD. Otherwise if he calls then you prolly need to check fold to the river.

You might even want to raise a little more - he might have AA, KK, QQ - i would say he probably has KK or AA. He might fold to a big reraise on a Jack high flop based on your play - as he might put you on JJ - but let's face it - most of the time if you have AA, KK on this flop - you are gonna go all the way. He definately looks like AA, KK but i still don't think you can fold to that flop bet without trying to get some more information first.

 Last edit: 28/05/2006 18:02

cariadon   Estonia. May 28 2006 18:03. Posts 4019

nothing wrong here either he wants to get paid
i'd call the minibet to see what he does on turn


fira   United States. May 28 2006 18:07. Posts 6345

why do you check the flop...?


Verbloten   Australia. May 28 2006 18:08. Posts 1889

u check the flop cause you should check raise all in. More chance he folds AA, KK if you play it like this considering the pf action. He could have JJ but that would just be bad luck - and he didn't play PF like he had JJ


DarkXprT   Qatar. May 28 2006 18:08. Posts 1832

because i think he had me beat? rofl.

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DarkXprT   Qatar. May 28 2006 18:10. Posts 1832

rofl? what are u talking about this is nl25 nobodys folding KK or AA

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Oxy   Canada. May 28 2006 18:12. Posts 2293

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this shit is OBSURD 

Verbloten   Australia. May 28 2006 18:17. Posts 1889


  On May 28 2006 17:12 Oxy wrote:
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That's insightful Mike - thanks!


Moloch   United States. May 28 2006 18:18. Posts 6144

preflop reraise is horrible, flop fold is fine i guess even though that bet was extremely small you only beat AK, on these limits you should decide preflop to only play for set value when he 3-bets pf oop with such obvious choreography of his hand

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cariadon   Estonia. May 28 2006 18:18. Posts 4019

this smells like AA / AK
frontbet is the best way to go here

call minibet the way this was played
if he smoothcalls you can check/fold or check/go broke


Joe   Czech Republic. May 28 2006 18:36. Posts 5987

some people should talk less and think more.

as for the hand - u should have very solid read to play it like this. the flop is safe so u really should test where u are. i think front betting is prolly good, if u are raised u are prolly beat, if u are called, its not as easy to know, but its quite probable u are beat too (if ur bet was any decent - 3/4 pot ++)

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

DarkXprT   Qatar. May 28 2006 18:41. Posts 1832

well then thats pretty bad to find out. The only way i have him beat here is if i bet and he fold which gives me no value. thats 2 to 1.
check/fold is the right move here then.

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hiddink88   United States. May 28 2006 18:44. Posts 517

when in doubt, go allin

it was only 25 to win a pot of 50 

Verbloten   Australia. May 28 2006 18:44. Posts 1889

yeh i prolly should keep quiet - but thought i would try and contribute.

I agree with the more experienced posters - but they all said similar things to me anyway. I didn't realise you were first to act - so i agree with leading out. But i would prolly check too cause i am a donk and i would be scared of reraise AND flat call because i think i am beat anyway!


 

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