Submitted by : Ibsu Bai Hui

Texas Hold'em $0.50-$0.50 NL (Real Money), #512,304,327
Table Johnstown, 22 May 2006 7:55 AM ET




Holecards
Seat 1: teahupoo_xl ($40.65 in chips)
Seat 2: zaphh10 ($13.50 in chips)
Seat 3: jieyy9 ($11 in chips)
Seat 4: Izayoi-san ($55.45 in chips)
Seat 5: fhotze ($51.70 in chips)
Seat 6: brahmanshiva ($52.75 in chips)
Seat 8: pinxit ($36.55 in chips)
Seat 9: seljes ($46.35 in chips)
Seat 10: cute4you ($50 in chips)



fhotze posts blind ($0.25), brahmanshiva posts blind ($0.50).

pinxit folds, seljes calls $0.50, cute4you bets $2.50, teahupoo_xl calls $2.50, zaphh10 folds, jieyy9 folds, Izayoi-san folds, fhotze calls $2.25, brahmanshiva folds, seljes calls $2.


Flop

   
fhotze checks, seljes checks, cute4you checks, teahupoo_xl checks.


Turn

   
fhotze bets $4, seljes folds, cute4you.....

i was dealt QxQx
what are you doing here?

call you have a chance to make backdoor x's

I think I call and call a reasonable bet on most rivers.

Fold

come to think of it if i dont have set odds it's an easy fold, they could have boated or anything..

River

fhotze bets $12, cute4you..........

now what?

if you call turn, you have to call that river.

you're not raising?

I would flat call river. but then again i play nl10

i assume the last guy behind you folded on the turn?

i dunno, normally with 100bb stacks i think i would raise here, but 3 callers to your pf raise, there's a decent chance one of them has the A....call I guess.

i mean , how decent :o anyway i had to put him on something so i pushed and he showed quads

actually i minraised and then he pushed

i wouldnt raise, only quads will call/push.

On May 22 2006 14:49 Baal wrote: i wouldnt raise, only quads will call/push.

thats not true many hands will call, but push is almost always quads

i think he showed "if you no one got the ace my hand is good"
or he checked a set on flop with 2 hearts... i think if hes a "safe" player he woldnt do it...

so i think ur facing QQ.. JJ QQ.. maybe KK

if the river comes an A and he push or bet, fold , he can have qudas if he push or re raise

On May 23 2006 08:28 Nazgul wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2006 14:49 Baal wrote: i wouldnt raise, only quads will call/push. thats not true many hands will call, but push is almost always quads

or he could be a dumbass with the 6 - he thinks his top boat is good

On May 23 2006 08:28 Nazgul wrote: Show nested quote + On May 22 2006 14:49 Baal wrote: i wouldnt raise, only quads will call/push. thats not true many hands will call, but push is almost always quads

villian bets $12 oop, a raise here almost puts chibi all-in, would you say its good to raise that river?

river: villain bets $12
chibi raises $30
villains raises $14 and is all-in.


thats why i said only quads will call/push, because any raise is practically an all-in besides a mini raise, isnt it better to flat call naz?

if i called the turn (which i would prolly not) i would call the river. no way id raise unless i know him being total sucker who goes with a 6 here....

On May 23 2006 10:46 TalentedTom wrote: Show nested quote + On May 23 2006 08:28 Nazgul wrote:   On May 22 2006 14:49 Baal wrote: i wouldnt raise, only quads will call/push. thats not true many hands will call, but push is almost always quads or he could be a dumbass with the 6 - he thinks his top boat is good

thats why i didnt say fold, but raise?

On May 23 2006 13:10 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On May 23 2006 08:28 Nazgul wrote:   On May 22 2006 14:49 Baal wrote: i wouldnt raise, only quads will call/push. thats not true many hands will call, but push is almost always quads villian bets $12 oop, a raise here almost puts chibi all-in, would you say its good to raise that river? river: villain bets $12 chibi raises $30 villains raises $14 and is all-in. thats why i said only quads will call/push, because any raise is practically an all-in besides a mini raise, isnt it better to flat call naz?

if im not putting him on the ace on turn then im putting him on any other pocket pair and they will call a minraise. silly to get involved anyway imo, and no a set wouldnt necessarily bet the flop

id fold the turn 100% of the time there

i think nazgul didnt pay atention to stack sizes and river bet, hopefully he will post again.