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Handnr: 1098043
Submitted by : Gumster

PokerStars Hand #228567955038: Tournament #3232497014, $6.69+$0.81 USD Holdem No Limit - Level XXXII (6000/12000) - 2021/07/25 22:51:25 CET [2021/07/25 16:51:25 ET]
Table 3232497014 66 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: ailton_lemos (115640 in chips)
Seat 3: EugeneShev (533910 in chips)
Seat 4: gomsipjorn (689996 in chips)
Seat 5: KuchanStar (256529 in chips)
Seat 6: Alucard1009 (304694 in chips)
Seat 7: vlwflw (456534 in chips)
Seat 8: Siveens99 (719660 in chips)
Seat 9: FernandesDiz (223748 in chips)
ailton_lemos: posts the ante 1500
EugeneShev: posts the ante 1500
gomsipjorn: posts the ante 1500
KuchanStar: posts the ante 1500
Alucard1009: posts the ante 1500
vlwflw: posts the ante 1500
Siveens99: posts the ante 1500
FernandesDiz: posts the ante 1500
Alucard1009: posts small blind 6000
vlwflw: posts big blind 12000

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to gomsipjorn QdQc
Siveens99: folds
FernandesDiz: folds
ailton_lemos: folds
EugeneShev: folds
gomsipjorn: raises 15000 to 27000
KuchanStar: folds
Alucard1009: folds
vlwflw: calls 15000

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $72,000.00)

   3hTs7c
vlwflw: checks
gomsipjorn: bets 42000
vlwflw: calls 42000

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $156,000.00)

   3hTs7cJc
vlwflw: checks
gomsipjorn: bets 81120
vlwflw: raises 304914 to 386034 and is all-in
gomsipjorn: calls 304914

River (Pot : $928,068.00)

   3hTs7cJc5h

Showdown
vlwflw: shows 7hJh (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
gomsipjorn: shows QdQc (a pair of Queens)
vlwflw collected 928068 from pot

Summary
Total pot 928068 | Rake 0
Board  3hTs7cJc5h
Seat 2: ailton_lemos folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: EugeneShev folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: gomsipjorn showed QdQc and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: KuchanStar (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Alucard1009 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: vlwflw (big blind) showed 7hJh and won (928068) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 8: Siveens99 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: FernandesDiz folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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Gumster   Sweden. Jul 25 2021 21:53. Posts 2279

mind you this is REALLY deep in a tournament 40/2600 like WTF is this

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Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

Gumster   Sweden. Jul 26 2021 00:03. Posts 2279

wait is this foldable? hmm...

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lostaccount   Canada. Jul 26 2021 08:21. Posts 3488

Yes, pretty sure he isn’t bluffing too much of the time unless u have a read, I can let it go, jack is the worst card. 89 jt gets there

 Last edit: 26/07/2021 08:22

Gumster   Sweden. Jul 26 2021 16:00. Posts 2279


  On July 26 2021 07:21 lostaccount wrote:
Yes, pretty sure he isn’t bluffing too much of the time unless u have a read, I can let it go, jack is the worst card. 89 jt gets there


GTO says it's pure call and not even remotely close, however vs. population it might differ and I'd be open for that discussion. But dude honestly your comments/analysis (this and others before) are rudimentary and also contains inaccuracies. He's shoving worse for value on this turn so Jc is definitely not the worst card (which would be a 7). Also you make it sound like an easy spot where in reality ranges are really wide and it just kind of shows that you don't have a very good grasp of MTTs. So please don't comment more on any of my hands cause it's annoying.

Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

lostaccount   Canada. Jul 26 2021 17:15. Posts 3488


  On July 26 2021 15:00 Gumster wrote:
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GTO says it's pure call and not even remotely close, however vs. population it might differ and I'd be open for that discussion. But dude honestly your comments/analysis (this and others before) are rudimentary and also contains inaccuracies. He's shoving worse for value on this turn so Jc is definitely not the worst card (which would be a 7). Also you make it sound like an easy spot where in reality ranges are really wide and it just kind of shows that you don't have a very good grasp of MTTs. So please don't comment more on any of my hands cause it's annoying.


alright enough said, if he is shoving worst than QQ on this hand its a read, gonna hard to give accurate info on a guy if u have no reads. personally i wouldnt jam without 2p+ here but w/e ill stop commenting.

 Last edit: 26/07/2021 17:27

Gumster   Sweden. Jul 26 2021 17:56. Posts 2279

sorry if that came off as harsh but it's when you make it sound like easy spots which tilts me, along with this fucking killer downswing

Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

gawdawaful   Canada. Jul 27 2021 06:17. Posts 8985

I think solvers cant account for how deep we are in a tournament either right?
Also, why are we using the bigger sizing on this flop..? I would've thought this is a smaller sizing situation. Whats the idea/thought process behind this one?

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Gumster   Sweden. Jul 27 2021 10:34. Posts 2279


  On July 27 2021 05:17 gawdawaful wrote:
I think solvers cant account for how deep we are in a tournament either right?
Also, why are we using the bigger sizing on this flop..? I would've thought this is a smaller sizing situation. Whats the idea/thought process behind this one?


Because opponent is defending a lot of weak shit (3x, 7x and Tx) and we have a pretty significant range advantage. CO can have all sets but BB cant have TT. CO has all overpairs and BB has none. We're simply crushing his range and want to extract value from when he has hit a pair. We can probably bet big with almost entire range here

Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

Gumster   Sweden. Jul 27 2021 10:35. Posts 2279

any J/Q/K/A is awesome for our range and trash for BB so we can continue bombing profitably and BB's life will be miserable with 7x and even Tx

Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

asdf2000   United States. Jul 27 2021 21:56. Posts 7647

I don't hate the play, maybe a turn fold vs a bunch of opponents.... but I think I prefer a turn check here actually.
I am sure it would be mixed for me, though.

Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right. 

gawdawaful   Canada. Jul 28 2021 04:17. Posts 8985


  On July 27 2021 09:34 Gumster wrote:
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Because opponent is defending a lot of weak shit (3x, 7x and Tx) and we have a pretty significant range advantage. CO can have all sets but BB cant have TT. CO has all overpairs and BB has none. We're simply crushing his range and want to extract value from when he has hit a pair. We can probably bet big with almost entire range here


Literally everything you said here is reason for me to bet smaller to force continues with a wider variety of shit, induce some x/r with J9/J8 types. I think betting bigger I think deters that.

Im only good at poker when I run good 

Gumster   Sweden. Jul 28 2021 12:42. Posts 2279


  On July 28 2021 03:17 gawdawaful wrote:
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Literally everything you said here is reason for me to bet smaller to force continues with a wider variety of shit, induce some x/r with J9/J8 types. I think betting bigger I think deters that.



I dont see many people c/ring this type of board, possibly very aggressive opponents but population practically never. Also you want to build the pot when youre ahead and they cant fold 7x or even 3x against a 52% bet cuz then they will be massively overfolding so I think my logic is sound

Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

Gumster   Sweden. Jul 28 2021 12:47. Posts 2279


  On July 27 2021 20:56 asdf2000 wrote:
I don't hate the play, maybe a turn fold vs a bunch of opponents.... but I think I prefer a turn check here actually.
I am sure it would be mixed for me, though.



I think my biggest leak is just adapting to population tendencies and I get stuck in GTO land where this is a slam dunk bet/call.....

Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

gawdawaful   Canada. Aug 02 2021 21:06. Posts 8985

I mean if you're not betting the smaller size with this hand, what hands are you betting the smaller size with?

Plus based on what you just said, that is a blanket argument for betting 52% with all the best parts of your range (lets say, top pair and better) and that just can't be right.

I mean one argument for a bigger size here is we unblock all the top pair hands, but even still, that should be a very small part of their range and imo we should be more focused on what continues for 33% and not 52%

Im only good at poker when I run good 

YoMeR   United States. Aug 15 2021 21:50. Posts 12432

Your sizing seems too big post flop. with smaller sizing we can fold pretty comfortably on turn esp holding Qc. As played seems pretty tough to fold with this much invested.

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