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Handnr: 1084162
Submitted by : drone666

PokerStars Hand #195326694128: Holdem No Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2019/01/05 2:37:24 ET
Table Gamma Crateris 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: moglimiranda ($6999.82 in chips)
Seat 2: DANMERRRRRRR ($5649.19 in chips)
moglimiranda: posts small blind $25
DANMERRRRRRR: posts big blind $50

Holecards(Odds)
moglimiranda: raises $79 to $129
DANMERRRRRRR: calls $79

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $258.00)

   6h2s5h
DANMERRRRRRR: checks
moglimiranda: bets $176.47
DANMERRRRRRR: calls $176.47

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $610.94)

   6h2s5hQc
DANMERRRRRRR: checks
moglimiranda: bets $700
DANMERRRRRRR: calls $700

River (Pot : $2,010.94)

   6h2s5hQcAc
DANMERRRRRRR: checks
moglimiranda: bets $5994.35 and is all-in
DANMERRRRRRR: calls $4643.72 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1350.63) returned to moglimiranda

Showdown
moglimiranda: shows 4s3s (a straight, Deuce to Six)
DANMERRRRRRR: shows 4h5c (a pair of Fives)
moglimiranda collected $11296.13 from pot

Summary
Total pot $11298.38 | Rake $2.25
Board  6h2s5hQcAc
Seat 1: moglimiranda (button) (small blind) showed 4s3s and won ($11296.13) with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 2: DANMERRRRRRR (big blind) showed 4h5c and lost with a pair of Fives

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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 06 2019 23:58. Posts 32492

he blocks a few combos of 34 but the 4h is really bad since it blocks many combodraws and I think moglimiranda's overbetting range includes more than just flopped straight for value so its not that relevant

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drone666   Brasil. Jan 07 2019 03:44. Posts 1647

4h is bad because it blocks combodraws, and you think mogli would use a missed combo draw to bluff the river 2x pot ?
missed flushdraws are awful bluffs, so having a heart is actually good


Baalim   Mexico. Jan 08 2019 01:03. Posts 32492

I get your point, but under that line of thought, then the best bluffcatching hand would be the one that blocks all the draws I think we get into a leveling game where we have far more to lose than to gain.

I assume a solver would call more a 4x combo without the heart right?

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Baalim   Mexico. Jan 08 2019 10:35. Posts 32492

I guess its not that relevant you have have to make sure your frequency is correct

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drone666   Brasil. Jan 09 2019 10:15. Posts 1647


  On January 08 2019 00:03 Baalim wrote:
I get your point, but under that line of thought, then the best bluffcatching hand would be the one that blocks all the draws I think we get into a leveling game where we have far more to lose than to gain.



blocking flushdraws is different than blocking "draws", having a straight draw blocker with a 4x or 3x also blocks straights which is the most obvious value hand to put on this size, but its very complicated to be precise in whats a good bluffcatcher and would require some sims with nodelocking on turn + river, because it depends on the composition of IP value range with this size

Pio is shoving Q6+ for value here and having 30%~ shoving on this river, I believe in real game players dont go that thin almost never ( slightly different SPR on my solution being 2x pot shove OTR instead of 3x )
Pio specifically is choosing 8x4h,9x4h etc as bluff I dont know the reason why but dont think its very important, im confident players would rather use no heart blocker to bluff


Baalim   Mexico. Jan 11 2019 07:50. Posts 32492

it shoves Q6 without nodelocking the turn to overbet? like that is the natural line with Q6? damn son

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drone666   Brasil. Jan 11 2019 09:00. Posts 1647

yea there's a lot of shoving in SRP like this on optimal play
people def dont do enough

this one was interesting:
https://www.liquidpoker.net/h/1083994


casinocasino   Canada. Jan 12 2019 19:40. Posts 3332

Are the over x2 bet specifically for the river? Or are they used on the turn as well

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drone666   Brasil. Jan 13 2019 04:09. Posts 1647

1.5x is more used but if the flop size is smaller it can use 2x or 1.7x turn, but river is just because its a shove in a situation of nuts vs bluffcatchers, doesnt matter how big it is the overbet


 

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