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Handnr: 1082193
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Zoom Hand #188736732117: Holdem No Limit ($2.50/$5.00) - 2018/07/14 22:00:26 ET
Table Lambda Velorum 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Stroggos_nz ($505 in chips)
Seat 2: edilson985 ($267.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Coldfive ($987 in chips)
Seat 4: driveyounuts ($533.13 in chips)
edilson985: posts small blind $2.50
Coldfive: posts big blind $5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Stroggos_nz Ah4c
driveyounuts: folds
Stroggos_nz: raises $6.20 to $11.20
edilson985: folds
Coldfive: calls $6.20

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $24.90)

   5c4sJh
Coldfive: checks
Stroggos_nz: bets $7.33
Coldfive: raises $23.97 to $31.30
Stroggos_nz: raises $43.70 to $75
Coldfive: calls $43.70

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $174.90)

   5c4sJhJd
Coldfive: bets $38.96
Stroggos_nz: raises $56.04 to $95
Coldfive: calls $56.04

River (Pot : $364.90)

   5c4sJhJdJc
Coldfive: checks
Stroggos_nz: checks

Showdown
Coldfive: shows 6c3c (three of a kind, Jacks)
Stroggos_nz: shows Ah4c (a full house, Jacks full of Fours)
Stroggos_nz collected $363.40 from pot

Summary
Total pot $364.90 | Rake $1.50
Board  5c4sJhJdJc
Seat 1: Stroggos_nz (button) showed Ah4c and won ($363.40) with a full house, Jacks full of Fours
Seat 2: edilson985 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Coldfive (big blind) showed 6c3c and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 4: driveyounuts folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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ManYac   Poland. Jul 15 2018 20:41. Posts 152

Is this flop and turn raises are for protection or what ? You should have more Jx and overpairs then OP, thats why ?

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 Last edit: 15/07/2018 20:42

ManYac   Poland. Jul 15 2018 20:56. Posts 152

 Last edit: 15/07/2018 20:57

hiems   United States. Jul 15 2018 21:29. Posts 1499

thoughts:

backdoor flushes not enough equity on most monotone boards
hand composition has to do also with villain calling range. he has to call with gutters/straight draws with backdoor so this works well for 3b.
villain doesn't have alot of 2 pair combos, j4o, j5o, maybe 54o, 3bet 54s a large portion obv doesnt have jj much. so less nutted hands. alot less good jx
ace provides additional backdoor straight equity.

 Last edit: 15/07/2018 21:36

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 16 2018 01:29. Posts 4217

I don't 3bet often here but here are some factors:

villian doesn't have too many nutted combos: not having 2pair offsuit combos is a huge deal here, J5o, J4o arn't calling here preflop from pio. 54o should. I block 44 and 54o, which is good. So i think A4o is doing ok against his x/r range.

Don't think he x/r middle pair almost ever here, so that helps. And i block AJ, the most likely flop x/r Jx hand.

optimal strategy is to 4bet the flop around 20% frequency, but i'd guess they do it around 10-15% freq max. They ought to be 4betting middle/bottom pair, and some straight draws like 63s, and then some sets. I think it's likely that the first two are under 4bet a lot and the third i think probably under 4bets as well-but not sure. If you nodelock this in you will notice a big increase in 3betting IP freq.

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 16 2018 14:25. Posts 14724

am I the only one who found the only weird thing here the turn raise? XD

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Baalim   Mexico. Jul 16 2018 23:28. Posts 32676


  On July 16 2018 00:29 Stroggoz wrote:
I don't 3bet often here but here are some factors:

villian doesn't have too many nutted combos: not having 2pair offsuit combos is a huge deal here, J5o, J4o arn't calling here preflop from pio. 54o should. I block 44 and 54o, which is good. So i think A4o is doing ok against his x/r range.

Don't think he x/r middle pair almost ever here, so that helps. And i block AJ, the most likely flop x/r Jx hand.

optimal strategy is to 4bet the flop around 20% frequency, but i'd guess they do it around 10-15% freq max. They ought to be 4betting middle/bottom pair, and some straight draws like 63s, and then some sets. I think it's likely that the first two are under 4bet a lot and the third i think probably under 4bets as well-but not sure. If you nodelock this in you will notice a big increase in 3betting IP freq.




agreed on everything and while PIO doesnt use the A4 combo to 3bet blocking AJ is a much bigger deal than all the reasons why PIO doesnt choose the Ace imo, a strong one being blocking also his gutshots

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jul 17 2018 01:46. Posts 4217


  On July 16 2018 13:25 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
am I the only one who found the only weird thing here the turn raise? XD



ya well i think im ahead quite often vs the turn donk, so no harm in raising for value.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 24 2018 21:40. Posts 8708

what i dont get is why is PIO raising A4o more than A5o @ flop


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 25 2018 00:16. Posts 14724

can call bigger bets later+more sdv=realizes more equity with a flat line than A4 does compared to 3b

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