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Handnr: 1080454
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #185030900954: Holdem No Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2018/04/09 18:14:35 ET
Table Botha II 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: AMG-MeR ($510.47 in chips)
Seat 2: katallo ($600 in chips)
Seat 3: mypokerf ($600 in chips)
Seat 4: Hope_Flooky ($1242.51 in chips)
Seat 5: silvirenzo ($721.62 in chips)
Seat 6: Vokobyarrrrr ($704.59 in chips)
Hope_Flooky: posts small blind $3
silvirenzo: posts big blind $6
AMG-MeR: posts the ante $1.20
katallo: posts the ante $1.20
mypokerf: posts the ante $1.20
Hope_Flooky: posts the ante $1.20
silvirenzo: posts the ante $1.20
Vokobyarrrrr: posts the ante $1.20

Holecards(Odds)
Vokobyarrrrr: raises $9 to $15
AMG-MeR: folds
katallo: folds
mypokerf: raises $65 to $80
Hope_Flooky: folds
silvirenzo: folds
Vokobyarrrrr: calls $65

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $169.00)

   9h5d3h
Vokobyarrrrr: checks
mypokerf: bets $86.35
Vokobyarrrrr: calls $86.35

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $341.70)

   9h5d3h3c
Vokobyarrrrr: checks
mypokerf: bets $100
Vokobyarrrrr: calls $100

River (Pot : $541.70)

   9h5d3h3cAd
Vokobyarrrrr: checks
mypokerf: bets $85
Vokobyarrrrr: raises $352.04 to $437.04 and is all-in
mypokerf: calls $247.45 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($104.59) returned to Vokobyarrrrr

Showdown
Vokobyarrrrr: shows 4c5c (two pair, Fives and Threes)
mypokerf: shows AsAc (a full house, Aces full of Threes)
mypokerf collected $1210.30 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1213.80 | Rake $3.50
Board  9h5d3h3cAd
Seat 1: AMG-MeR folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: katallo folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: mypokerf (button) showed AsAc and won ($1210.30) with a full house, Aces full of Threes
Seat 4: Hope_Flooky (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: silvirenzo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Vokobyarrrrr showed 4c5c and lost with two pair, Fives and Threes

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 11 2018 05:17. Posts 3983

yep im sure humans dont just jam for value on river but rather implement the 1/6th bet an balance that with bluffs.

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 11 2018 06:55. Posts 8594

I don't know much about how poker has evolved over the past 5 years nor about how bots are made, but wouldn't adding more (non-standard) bet sizes increase the computational power needed for the bot significantly? I figured there would start to be diminishing returns fairly quickly after adding a certain # of bet sizes relative to the edge gained by adding them.

Looking at this hand through herp-derp 2007 glasses it just looks like someone successfully attempting to induce a spazz

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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 11 2018 07:14. Posts 32052

it complicates it if its a GTO bot, but learning AI bots use a lot of weird sizings

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 11 2018 07:17. Posts 14505

Still insanely expensive to run, are you sure Global isn't just running some university experiment? Get out your tinfoil hats, it does seem to be using the Libratus like sizings

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 11 2018 07:22. Posts 3983


  On April 11 2018 05:55 bigredhoss wrote:
I don't know much about how poker has evolved over the past 5 years nor about how bots are made, but wouldn't adding more (non-standard) bet sizes increase the computational power needed for the bot significantly? I figured there would start to be diminishing returns fairly quickly after adding a certain # of bet sizes relative to the edge gained by adding them.

Looking at this hand through herp-derp 2007 glasses it just looks like someone successfully attempting to induce a spazz



yes it looks like this one-if it were using piosolver it would need a super computer. typically you need 100gig ram for a game tree partitioned into 3 sizings and especially limped pots take up a ton of ram since the stack to pot ratio goes up. This one is partitioned into a lot more prima facie, it looks like at least six sizes and massive preflop complexity as well.

I don't know what programmers can actually do without a super computer but i'm confident in my read, this plays so obviously like a bot to me.

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_auLast edit: 11/04/2018 07:24

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 11 2018 08:27. Posts 8594

Interesting, thanks for the replies.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 11 2018 10:56. Posts 3983

https://gyazo.com/5db27aa141f5675a82fa9d1b70624e7f back in action! putting in the volume!

https://gyazo.com/b1281ada89ef8499b86ee72bfdff0f82 it speaks!

https://gyazo.com/7acd5658c7607b069cbceed37fd8cc10 look it learnt to sit out vs the regs!

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_auLast edit: 11/04/2018 11:23

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 11 2018 11:34. Posts 14505

Oh this is actually on Stars? Woot

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 11 2018 11:35. Posts 14505

https://www.pokerstars.com/en/blog/on...er-sunday-million-winner-141763.shtml

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 11 2018 11:36. Posts 14505

He's been around for a long time
http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/ru/blog/2013/mypokerf-132160.html
Guess he runs bot assisted? Is there a lag before he acts?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 11 2018 11:43. Posts 3983

no he's way too fast for assisted.

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 11 2018 14:12. Posts 14505

So just straight up runs a bot you think?

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