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Handnr: 1079059
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #180823799999: Holdem No Limit ($50/$100 USD) - 2018/01/11 0:39:20 ET
Table Roxane III 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Iimitless ($19423.86 in chips)
Seat 2: DEX888 ($3900 in chips)
Seat 3: KidPoker ($37742.48 in chips)
Seat 4: LLinusLLove ($10000 in chips)
Seat 5: jobetzu ($11011.60 in chips)
DEX888: posts small blind $50
KidPoker: posts big blind $100

Holecards(Odds)
LLinusLLove: folds
jobetzu: folds
Iimitless: raises $150 to $250
DEX888: folds
KidPoker: calls $150

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $550.00)

   8dQc3s
KidPoker: checks
Iimitless: bets $408.75
KidPoker: calls $408.75

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1,367.50)

   8dQc3s5d
KidPoker: checks
Iimitless: bets $2043.75
KidPoker: calls $2043.75

River (Pot : $5,455.00)

   8dQc3s5d6h
KidPoker: checks
Iimitless: bets $5810
KidPoker: calls $5810

Showdown
Iimitless: shows KcQs (a pair of Queens)
KidPoker: shows 3dQd (two pair, Queens and Threes)
KidPoker collected $17070 from pot

Summary
Total pot $17075 | Rake $5
Board  8dQc3s5d6h
Seat 1: Iimitless (button) showed KcQs and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: DEX888 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: KidPoker (big blind) showed 3dQd and won ($17070) with two pair, Queens and Threes
Seat 4: LLinusLLove folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: jobetzu folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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fira   United States. Jan 15 2018 04:47. Posts 6277

hmm seems a bit too thin to overbet turn and then vbet river like this with KQ

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 15 2018 05:57. Posts 3922

This is fairly standard and is very close to how a solver would play.

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_au 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 20 2018 16:34. Posts 14478

Yeah I asked him about this hand and he says it was just normal
Not cause of DNegs really

Just have both a stronger range in terms of strong combos but also shitloads of bluffing hands with so many gutters being picked up OTT that you get to add KQ also

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 20 2018 16:35. Posts 14478

He's probably one of the highest earning poker pros right now , doubt even Linus comes close
You wouldn't even believe how poker can be in 2018 :D

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jan 21 2018 09:48. Posts 4841


  On January 20 2018 15:34 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Yeah I asked him about this hand and he says it was just normal
Not cause of DNegs really

Just have both a stronger range in terms of strong combos but also shitloads of bluffing hands with so many gutters being picked up OTT that you get to add KQ also



So if he is folding hands like QJ QT 99 TT he will be in trouble because of all the bluffing hands he shows up with, while if he is calling all of those he will get owned by the value range ?

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fira   United States. Jan 21 2018 20:12. Posts 6277


  On January 21 2018 08:48 VanDerMeyde wrote:
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So if he is folding hands like QJ QT 99 TT he will be in trouble because of all the bluffing hands he shows up with, while if he is calling all of those he will get owned by the value range ?

he can prob fold 99 and TT because those only block bluffs and don't block any value combos

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 21 2018 23:29. Posts 14478


  On January 21 2018 08:48 VanDerMeyde wrote:
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So if he is folding hands like QJ QT 99 TT he will be in trouble because of all the bluffing hands he shows up with, while if he is calling all of those he will get owned by the value range ?

I'd need to analyze the hand or run it in pio to know
But yeah e.g. any hand like K8 should be better vs these large sizings than TT JJ and you got a lot of those in BB

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 21 2018 23:32. Posts 14478

And yeah basically if you're a live pro or a NL25 reg and decide whether he's bluffing or not and then call or fold most of your bluffcatchers you'll get raped by the strategy and someone who can add KQ in the mix and proper amount of bluffs

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fira   United States. Jan 22 2018 01:19. Posts 6277

yeah thinking about it i actually like having some good Qx in our value range with this turn overbet. allows us to bluff much more frequently with our massive number of draws on turn. pretty often i seem to get called down by a hand like A8, doing this with KQ really punishes that.

i wonder how a turn check/raise would do versus this overbet strategy. OOP shouldn't have too many check/raises considering he only check/called flop, but it certainly seems possible to have some slowplays and maybe an occasional Q5s or something

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Jan 22 2018 06:57. Posts 4841

interesting, thanks

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 22 2018 11:16. Posts 3922

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_auLast edit: 22/01/2018 11:23

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 22 2018 11:17. Posts 3922


  On January 20 2018 15:35 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
He's probably one of the highest earning poker pros right now , doubt even Linus comes close
You wouldn't even believe how poker can be in 2018 :D



how do you know who the top earning pro's are? You cant tell with all the live results and untracked stuff.

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_auLast edit: 22/01/2018 11:23

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 22 2018 15:59. Posts 14478

I doubt there are much bigger games than he plays in even possible

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 22 2018 16:02. Posts 14478

Or anyone better at poker who plays them in nlhe at least

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jan 23 2018 09:41. Posts 14478

I guess Trueteller is the mega rich one if he gets into the russian games

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lucky331   . Jan 24 2018 08:39. Posts 965


  On January 23 2018 08:41 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
I guess Trueteller is the mega rich one if he gets into the russian games


he does. this is him now after last night's session.

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 Last edit: 24/01/2018 13:22

 

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