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Handnr: 1077840
Submitted by : hiems

PokerStars Hand #167380753634: Holdem No Limit ($50/$100 USD) - 2017/03/10 8:55:48 ET
Table Venus II 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: antoha1998 ($11512.96 in chips)
Seat 3: LLinusLLove ($10000 in chips)
Seat 4: OtB_RedBaron ($26554.29 in chips)
Seat 6: borntotilt ($15636.45 in chips)
LLinusLLove: posts small blind $50
OtB_RedBaron: posts big blind $100
antoha1998: posts the ante $20
LLinusLLove: posts the ante $20
OtB_RedBaron: posts the ante $20
borntotilt: posts the ante $20

Holecards
borntotilt: folds
antoha1998: folds
LLinusLLove: calls $50
OtB_RedBaron: checks

Flop (Pot : $200.00)

   3h7cJd
LLinusLLove: checks
OtB_RedBaron: bets $157.89
LLinusLLove: calls $157.89

Turn (Pot : $515.78)

   3h7cJdKd
LLinusLLove: bets $143.76
OtB_RedBaron: calls $143.76

River (Pot : $803.30)

   3h7cJdKd2s
LLinusLLove: bets $1214.81
OtB_RedBaron: calls $1214.81

Showdown
LLinusLLove: shows Kc7s (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
OtB_RedBaron: mucks hand
LLinusLLove collected $3309.92 from pot

Summary
Total pot $3312.92 | Rake $3
Board  3h7cJdKd2s
Seat 1: antoha1998 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: LLinusLLove (small blind) showed Kc7s and won ($3309.92) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 4: OtB_RedBaron (big blind) mucked
Seat 6: borntotilt folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 17 2017 06:11. Posts 34246

I wonder if perhaps a slightly bigger turn donk would put more hands in awkward spots to OTB, that sizing just seems to get called too liberally, perhaps like 200 ?

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hiems   United States. Oct 17 2017 15:49. Posts 2979

Hm idk I posted a few hands with turn donks cause it's something I need to get better at.

I've been test running my Sims with ~22% and %110 donk sizing, if tree is like 3bet pot with low spr I use more I think.

I guess smaller sizing gets value from ax // folds out ax folds out q5 type hands. I don't actually understand the limp/check ranges bvb fwiw. also don't play much for awhile tho I'm trying to start again now.

I was only looking at llinusllove sample of c.c flop lead turn and it's small sample at 50/100 but havent had a whOle lot of time to go through all of it. I think he uses a small sizing alot and includes hands like 45 46 maybe others here.


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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Oct 18 2017 02:24. Posts 5296

imo this is what's going on here:

the king is not a very good card for baron to barrel on, baron will check back a lot of Kings on the flop, linus will have more kings in his range. , AK, occasional c/c's with KQ or KT maybe. so it's a good card to lead on.

you could donk lead turn bigger, but that's just not part of linuslove's overall strategy. donking small means he gets to do it with entire range and the ev exploitability of doing so is very minimal. Run a sim and compare the ev difference between gto leading frequencies for 22%, and the ev of leading entire range for 100%. it will be small, so linus can only be exploited for a small amount when that's his strategy here.

If he wanted to donk turn bigger, that would force him to start splitting his range a lot, because if you donk big you have to check a lot of hands, and perhaps bet donk bet small, since donk betting entire range for a large sizing is pretty terrible for total ev, so a large donk bet forces you to play an overly complex strategy that, and it becomes quite hard to balance strategies and thinking about what your going to do with all your hands, so a big donk bet is only really a good idea if your a super computer or your doing some specific exploit or your oborra.

On river he does end up making it a bit more complicated and bets very big.

I don't think his goal is to do it to get value from Ax, or fold Q5 or w/e, he is simply playing a strategy and relying on his opponents to make mistakes vs it by not raising/calling/folding the right frequencies of hands. probably this kind of playstyle prints money at 100/200nl.

i don't really have very good preflop either as i don't have pioedge But i think limping strategies are only really good at higher stakes where the rake is lower in terms of bb/100.

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