PokerStars Zoom Hand #176410407754: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2017/10/02 16:39:01 ET
Table Baade 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: dayyNnight ($53.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Lars_Vega$ ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Stroggos_nz ($97.42 in chips)
Seat 4: Astor G26 ($51.64 in chips)
Seat 5: KAPITANTZANO ($71.57 in chips)
Seat 6: sergei167 ($48.62 in chips)
Lars_Vega$: posts small blind $0.25
Stroggos_nz: posts big blind $0.50
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Stroggos_nz 
Astor G26: raises $0.50 to $1
KAPITANTZANO: folds
sergei167: folds
dayyNnight: calls $1
Lars_Vega$: folds
Stroggos_nz: calls $0.50
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.25)
Stroggos_nz: checks
Astor G26: checks
dayyNnight: checks
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $3.25)
Stroggos_nz: checks
Astor G26: bets $3
dayyNnight: folds
Stroggos_nz: calls $3
River (Pot : $9.25)
Stroggos_nz: checks
Astor G26: bets $9
Stroggos_nz: calls $9
Showdown
Astor G26: shows 
(a pair of Tens)
Stroggos_nz: shows (a full house, Tens full of Jacks)
Stroggos_nz collected $25.89 from pot
Summary
Total pot $27.25 | Rake $1.36
Board
Seat 1: dayyNnight (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Lars_Vega$ (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Stroggos_nz (big blind) showed and won ($25.89) with a full house, Tens full of Jacks
Seat 4: Astor G26 showed and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: KAPITANTZANO folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: sergei167 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
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Baalim Mexico. Oct 03 2017 04:32. Posts 34250 | | |
thats an obvious river raise man |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Oct 03 2017 06:11. Posts 5296 | | |
maybe as exploitable play it is a raise, but the solver says it's a flat call even in a hu situation, im just entering nl50 here under the assumption that people play reasonably well, and with no info on who the regs/fish are. |
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wobbly_au Australia. Oct 03 2017 10:06. Posts 6540 | | |
If solver says this is a call then you shouldn't be using a solver at all!
Plus in theory a solver is working out how you can be unexploitable not how you can make the most bb/100. |
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Santafairy Korea (South). Oct 03 2017 10:42. Posts 2226 | | |
call river and play GTO or raise river and drive a GTO |
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Baalim Mexico. Oct 03 2017 12:15. Posts 34250 | | |
| | On October 03 2017 09:06 wobbly_au wrote:
If solver says this is a call then you shouldn't be using a solver at all!
Plus in theory a solver is working out how you can be unexploitable not how you can make the most bb/100. |
I think you dont fully get GTO, it is about maximizing EV (bb/100) in every street, but against a clarivoyant opponent. |
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wobbly_au Australia. Oct 03 2017 12:36. Posts 6540 | | |
| | On October 03 2017 11:15 Baalim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2017 09:06 wobbly_au wrote:
If solver says this is a call then you shouldn't be using a solver at all!
Plus in theory a solver is working out how you can be unexploitable not how you can make the most bb/100. |
I think you dont fully get GTO, it is about maximizing EV (bb/100) in every street, but against a clarivoyant opponent.
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i think you underestimate my knowledge in cards. I got GTO before all most people even mention the name. |
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wobbly_au Australia. Oct 03 2017 12:43. Posts 6540 | | |
the biggest conspiracy of HSNL is all the top pros want you to think they are playing GTO break even poker, but honestly all the top players are and HAVE to be exploiting others. |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Oct 03 2017 13:11. Posts 5296 | | |
I think i am trolling but i'm not sure if wobbly is. Yes this hand is a raise, I dunno if this is an accurate range to give some random person, but if you give them QTs, 2 QQ combos, and half of the AK, and 1 combos of K9, then it's like 3 value hands that beat you and 9 that don't. so if they fold half of those 9 to a raise, then you still get called by 4.5 combos that you beat, and 3 that you don't. I don't trust the sims here actually, they don't model what people do properly here after looking at it closely.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Oct 03 2017 13:18. Posts 5296 | | |
wobbly, oborra must be trying really hard with this conspiracy because someone looked at every single postflop hand he played over a huge sample and solver says it's gto for every single one.
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