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Handnr: 1077312
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #168889583149: Holdem No Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2017/04/11 11:01:43 ET
Table Planckia 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: OhHeyCindy ($5978.65 in chips)
Seat 5: LLinusLLove ($6725.06 in chips)
Seat 6: OtB_RedBaron ($15706.39 in chips)
OtB_RedBaron: posts small blind $25
OhHeyCindy: posts big blind $50
OhHeyCindy: posts the ante $10
LLinusLLove: posts the ante $10
OtB_RedBaron: posts the ante $10

Holecards(Odds)
LLinusLLove: raises $101 to $151
OtB_RedBaron: raises $410.49 to $561.49
OhHeyCindy: folds
LLinusLLove: calls $410.49

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1,172.98)

   ThAdKh
OtB_RedBaron: bets $160.29
LLinusLLove: raises $796.43 to $956.72
OtB_RedBaron: calls $796.43

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $3,086.42)

   ThAdKhJh
OtB_RedBaron: checks
LLinusLLove: checks

River (Pot : $3,086.42)

   ThAdKhJh3s
OtB_RedBaron: bets $1180.09
LLinusLLove: calls $1180.09

Showdown
OtB_RedBaron: shows 9d9h (a pair of Nines)
LLinusLLove: shows QhAs (a straight, Ten to Ace)
LLinusLLove collected $5474.60 from pot

Summary
Total pot $5476.60 | Rake $2
Board  ThAdKhJh3s
Seat 3: OhHeyCindy (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: LLinusLLove (button) showed QhAs and won ($5474.60) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 6: OtB_RedBaron (small blind) showed 9d9h and lost with a pair of Nines



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Nitewin   United States. Sep 25 2017 13:24. Posts 1539

Wow @ flop call. What does river bet accomplish? Blocking bet? Or does AT fold here?

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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 25 2017 13:54. Posts 6540

I think it’s to fold out bullshit bluffs.
Flush wouldn’t check back turn, nor would flop nuts, qx hardly raises.

Flip raise makes no sense so small bluff to rep nut flush is fine

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 25 2017 19:34. Posts 5289

Flop raise makes perfect sense, ur mean't to raise flop like 35% or something vs red baron's sizing, i had a friend solve this spot for me a few weeks ago. If you don't raise flop here, ur getting exploited.

River bet is just a bluff, baron should turn some of his hands into bluffs, 99 is a pretty good candidate, it blocks Q9, has 9 of hearts, and it's 5th pair, one of the worst showdown values he can have.

pretty sure flush would check back turn and red baron know's that. I wouldn't be suprised if checking back a large % of flushes is what the solver says.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 25/09/2017 19:43

wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 26 2017 09:59. Posts 6540

Wtf does solve this spot mean?

I keep seeing it and dont understand it.. Link ? Is this the whole GTO theory?

GTO doesnt work if there is rake btw... I think people get too caught up in it and use it as execuse to call or bluff

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drone666   Brasil. Sep 26 2017 11:04. Posts 1821

there's software called piosolver that everyone uses at highstakes
seems like you are not very sure what GTO means if you think you are going to breakeven vs everyone lol ( thats what I used to think before )

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 26 2017 12:09. Posts 5289

All hail wobbly!

well if both players are playing gto then yeah you will get raked and no one wins. If one is playing gto and the other isn't, then you might beat the rake, depending on how bad the other player is playing. If anyone actually did play gto they would surely crush the high stakes games!

You should play to maximize ev, not to play gto. But playing strategies which we think are gto is becoming the way to maximize ev, more and more every day, while playing an exploitative strategy is becoming harder and harder, because everyone else is trying to play a strategy they think is close to gto.

probably the best way to explain game theory optimal is to look at rock paper scissors as an example. (google it). I think Liv Boree explains it in a lecture at oxford as well.

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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 27 2017 04:24. Posts 34246

Raise seems standard, the call is weird

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