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Handnr: 1076948
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #169522168548: Holdem No Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2017/04/24 22:51:42 ET
Table Tselina 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: LLinusLLove ($18251.77 in chips)
Seat 4: hhecklen ($7844.15 in chips)
Seat 6: OtB_RedBaron ($5200 in chips)
hhecklen: posts small blind $25
OtB_RedBaron: posts big blind $50
LLinusLLove: posts the ante $10
hhecklen: posts the ante $10
OtB_RedBaron: posts the ante $10

Holecards(Odds)
LLinusLLove: raises $101 to $151
hhecklen: raises $481.32 to $632.32
OtB_RedBaron: folds
LLinusLLove: calls $481.32

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1,314.64)

   AsTcJs
hhecklen: checks
LLinusLLove: bets $5368.60
hhecklen: raises $1833.23 to $7201.83 and is all-in
LLinusLLove: calls $1833.23
*** FIRST TURN *** AsTcJs Qc
*** FIRST RIVER *** AsTcJsQc 2d
*** SECOND TURN *** AsTcJs 3h
*** SECOND RIVER *** AsTcJs3h 2h
*** FIRST SHOW DOWN ***
hhecklen: shows AdKc (a straight, Ten to Ace)
LLinusLLove: shows Qs5s (a pair of Queens)
hhecklen collected $7873.15 from pot
*** SECOND SHOW DOWN ***
hhecklen: shows AdKc (a pair of Aces)
LLinusLLove: shows Qs5s (high card Ace)
hhecklen collected $7873.15 from pot

Summary
Total pot $15748.30 | Rake $2
Hand was run twice
Board  AsTcJsQc2d
Board  AsTcJs3h2h
Seat 2: LLinusLLove (button) showed Qs5s and lost with a pair of Queens, and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: hhecklen (small blind) showed AdKc and won ($7873.15) with a straight, Ten to Ace, and won ($7873.15) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: OtB_RedBaron (big blind) folded before Flop



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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 14 2017 06:04. Posts 34246

std 4x pot lol

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 14 2017 07:13. Posts 5289

llinuslove living de solved life.

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Nitewin   United States. Sep 14 2017 15:00. Posts 1539

what hands bet like that? does he bet all his crap combo draws, sets, and good 2 pairs like that?


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 14 2017 15:43. Posts 5289

he doesn't play 3 bet pots often, but when he does he jams flop

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 14 2017 15:54. Posts 5289


  On September 14 2017 14:00 Nitewin wrote:
what hands bet like that? does he bet all his crap combo draws, sets, and good 2 pairs like that?



how would i know that. i have looked at every single hand he played this year that went to showdown but it's not really enough hands to give you a range. Just put it in solver and see what it says. using non-standard sizings has always often been a good idea in the history of poker as people play far from gto against something they havnt seen before, examples of this can be isildur being unable to adjust to min-opens, or regs when they first faced limping strategies, or regs not c/r enough when they first faced small cbet sizings. I think it is one of the best ways to get an edge on the field

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Nitewin   United States. Sep 14 2017 16:05. Posts 1539

Also a good thing to note is that hhecklen should almost never (assuming before adjusting) checks set, straight, 2pair here, therefore, capping his range to jam.

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Sep 14 2017 18:33. Posts 2224


  On September 14 2017 14:43 Stroggoz wrote:
he doesn't play 3 bet pots often, but when he does he jams flop


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drone666   Brasil. Sep 14 2017 19:48. Posts 1821

^ lol

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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 15 2017 03:45. Posts 34246


  On September 14 2017 15:05 Nitewin wrote:
Also a good thing to note is that hhecklen should almost never (assuming before adjusting) checks set, straight, 2pair here, therefore, capping his range to jam.



no at those stakes you dont cap your ranges in spots as common as this

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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 15 2017 04:41. Posts 6540

which one are you?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 15 2017 07:15. Posts 5289

im otb red baron, look up my results on highstakesdb

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wobbly_au   Australia. Sep 15 2017 07:43. Posts 6540

Ha, thats awesome man I didn't know you were redbaron. I think we use to play alot together, name is very familiar!

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hellokittery   United States. Sep 15 2017 09:19. Posts 1398


BlizzY   Slovakia. Sep 15 2017 12:47. Posts 805


  On September 14 2017 15:05 Nitewin wrote:
Also a good thing to note is that hhecklen should almost never (assuming before adjusting) checks set, straight, 2pair here, therefore, capping his range to jam.



Assuming. Why would you ever assume decent players at any semi-serious limit not checking nutted hands on such a specifically wet board ?


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 15 2017 13:32. Posts 5289

i like to cbet about 12-15% sizing with a wide range on this flop if im hhecklen. Pio likes it too, and it is a good strategy vs weaker opponents as they will not adjust correctly. yeah you can check nutted hand's that make good use of combinatorics. i guess pio may like checking TT, JJ, AA here some % of the time, and hands like K9ss as well maybe. I'm just guessing, havn't run the sims.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 15/09/2017 13:33

napoleono   Romania. Sep 15 2017 17:03. Posts 771


  On September 15 2017 06:15 Stroggoz wrote:
im otb red baron, look up my results on highstakesdb

wat? are you not trolling? :O


Nitewin   United States. Sep 16 2017 03:31. Posts 1539


  On September 15 2017 11:47 BlizzY wrote:
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Assuming. Why would you ever assume decent players at any semi-serious limit not checking nutted hands on such a specifically wet board ?




In general you bet your nutted hands on wet boards so runouts don't kill your action. If you don't bet your nutted hands here, what are you betting? or do you have a cbet range at all?


Baalim   Mexico. Sep 16 2017 03:48. Posts 34246


  On September 15 2017 06:43 wobbly_au wrote:
Ha, thats awesome man I didn't know you were redbaron. I think we use to play alot together, name is very familiar!



lol he is fucking with you, Red Baron is considered the best no limit player in the world right now

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 16 2017 05:17. Posts 5289


  On September 16 2017 02:31 Nitewin wrote:
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In general you bet your nutted hands on wet boards so runouts don't kill your action. If you don't bet your nutted hands here, what are you betting? or do you have a cbet range at all?



well protecting nut hands from bad run outs is a good reason to bet but poker is just a lot more complex than that. There are multiple reasons that hands should be played the way they are. so for example it can be gto to raise bottom pair weak kicker against a cbet BBvSB, there are a lot of reasons that go into why that is a good play.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 16/09/2017 05:18

BlizzY   Slovakia. Sep 16 2017 13:21. Posts 805


  On September 16 2017 02:31 Nitewin wrote:
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In general you bet your nutted hands on wet boards so runouts don't kill your action. If you don't bet your nutted hands here, what are you betting? or do you have a cbet range at all?



On superwet boards like these, there will inevitably be bad cards coming often, so by always betting nutted hands you have incredibly unprotected checking ranges and you really want to be able to profitably play rest of your range, also when scarecards come, so your strategy will be exploited hard when you always bet good hands and then have to check on bad cards, they can start overbluffing and you have no hands to protect that with. It's just common sense to have also strong holdings when checking, otherwise you become really transparent.


 

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