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Handnr: 1059287
Submitted by : drone666

PokerStars Hand #142538933126: Holdem No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2015/10/21 2:33:05 ET
Table Irpedina III 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($452.80 in chips)
Seat 2: ZackBigPack1 ($487.83 in chips)
ZackBigPack1: posts small blind $1
Hero: posts big blind $2

Holecards
Dealt to Hero KsQs
ZackBigPack1: raises $3 to $5
Hero: raises $17 to $22
ZackBigPack1: calls $17

Flop (Pot : $44.00)

   8dKd6c
Hero: bets $31.32
ZackBigPack1: calls $31.32

Turn (Pot : $106.64)

   8dKd6cTs
Hero: checks
ZackBigPack1: bets $80.66
Hero: calls $80.66

River (Pot : $267.96)

   8dKd6cTs8h
Hero: checks
ZackBigPack1: bets $353.85 and is all-in

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Artanis[Xp]   Netherlands. Oct 21 2015 11:38. Posts 4697

Reads on opp?

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Nitewin   United States. Oct 21 2015 14:06. Posts 1539

Question is is he aggressive enough to continue his bluffs. Some people shut down after turn semibluff. Some people will continue the bluff on the river after draw missed. He also overbet pot so yeah, it's really read/player dependent.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Oct 21 2015 18:31. Posts 1631

but he has JQdd.... call!


Ryan Neilly   United States. Oct 21 2015 18:32. Posts 1631

^troll - dependent, i think calling isn't terrible in a vacuum since ur capped and hes not


Ryan Neilly   United States. Oct 21 2015 18:32. Posts 1631

turn x/x capping ur action and this board being in his 3bet call wheelhouse per say


casinocasino   Canada. Oct 21 2015 19:18. Posts 3343

Really tough spot..


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 21 2015 19:54. Posts 15163

Oh I commented on this guy's match this year
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/37181/

has played up to 10/20 HU. But his opponent seemed better in the match.
And yes he will have a bluffing range in this spot for sure if you're unknown.

What's your turn cc range here and cbet turn % + cc turn% on this board you'd say?
do you cc better hands than KQ?

93% Sure! Last edit: 21/10/2015 20:06

Rapoza   Brasil. Oct 21 2015 22:54. Posts 1612

--- Nuked ---

Pouncer Style 4 the winLast edit: 22/10/2015 00:34

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 21 2015 23:43. Posts 9634

u missed 79s but ye


traxamillion   United States. Oct 22 2015 01:31. Posts 10468


  On October 21 2015 21:54 Rapoza wrote:
Villain probably doesn't bets an 8 on turn so his made hands are 66/K8/KT/TT/79s(ty Spitfiree) vs flush draws.
No idea about GTO but from intuition this seems to be the exact bottom of a calling range.



this is my first instinct as well; bottom hand we call with


traxamillion   United States. Oct 22 2015 01:32. Posts 10468

wait thought this was 2/4 and 100bb.

have to look at it for more than 10 seconds, disregard above


drone666   Brasil. Oct 22 2015 02:02. Posts 1821


  On October 21 2015 18:54 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Oh I commented on this guy's match this year
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/37181/

has played up to 10/20 HU. But his opponent seemed better in the match.
And yes he will have a bluffing range in this spot for sure if you're unknown.

What's your turn cc range here and cbet turn % + cc turn% on this board you'd say?
do you cc better hands than KQ?



he's a tool, a big spot at higher stakes and we are not unknwon, we played a few matches along this year
he used to be a retard bluffing everytime I checked but he seem to be bluffing less lately because everyone was raping him because of this

Dont listen to anything I say 

fira   United States. Oct 22 2015 04:01. Posts 6345

think it's a fold, dont think he has enough bluffs unless he plays T9/T7 like this. conversely calling is probably okay, as we don't block diamonds which are gonna be his only total air hands (along with 75 and maybe 54)


Ryan Neilly   United States. Oct 22 2015 10:40. Posts 1631

i call because fuck him?


Smuft   Canada. Oct 22 2015 12:50. Posts 633


  On October 22 2015 01:02 drone666 wrote:
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he's a tool, a big spot at higher stakes and we are not unknwon, we played a few matches along this year
he used to be a retard bluffing everytime I checked but he seem to be bluffing less lately because everyone was raping him because of this


if he's smartened up lately its probably a fold, especially considering how unattractive it is to bluff this runout (all draws missed, he can't rep naked 8x, and people fold way less on these boards)

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counting roughly ~30 value combos on the river

he'd have to bomb turn and shove river just like this with most of his diamond draws and flop floats for our river call to be good



YoMeR   United States. Oct 23 2015 00:34. Posts 12435

seems like a great spot in villain's position to do this with his entire diamonds range that continues putting money in turn as well as his entire value range. if he does this with his entire AK+ KT+ range then it becomes a nightmare to play vs. Although not sure how often he's flatting AK pf and not just 4 betting for value either.

eZ Life. 

 

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