I like your line

his line is good but transparent imo.

14 into 50 @ flop almost always AJ-AK type hands sometimes higher pairs w/e.

turn leaves 144 into 156, the $39 bet actually sets up the psb river jam which makes it an easier call from the villian, i think a bet of $45-52 on turn is better, leaving slightly BETTER odds for him to call, looks like ur extracting more value, and not bluffing as often on the river. This line of thinking could be incorrect, but I do believe when u leave a psb jam on the river you are much wider than when you leave a 65-80% bet that essentially does the same thing NASH

I assume timdawg is good enough not to be doing that; this guy just binked on him

On October 03 2015 23:30 Ryan Neilly wrote: his line is good but transparent imo. 14 into 50 @ flop almost always AJ-AK type hands sometimes higher pairs w/e. turn leaves 144 into 156, the $39 bet actually sets up the psb river jam which makes it an easier call from the villian, i think a bet of $45-52 on turn is better, leaving slightly BETTER odds for him to call, looks like ur extracting more value, and not bluffing as often on the river. This line of thinking could be incorrect, but I do believe when u leave a psb jam on the river you are much wider than when you leave a 65-80% bet that essentially does the same thing NASH

yeah..you're thinking too hard about this

i take same line with same sizings with all my value hands

ic yeah just ul

On October 03 2015 20:13 traxamillion wrote: I like your line

AK blocks tons of his Ahi hes c/cing, might even c/c KQs w/ bdfd, i dont like it -_-

On October 04 2015 14:56 dogmeat wrote: AK blocks tons of his Ahi hes c/cing, might even c/c KQs w/ bdfd, i dont like it -_-

well, i was in SB so he was in pos. the idea was to try to get him to fold like 77-TT but yeah, i see what you're saying. i actually prob give up most rivers

i hate it

you say you are using it with value hands, which probably means you have decent success with value hands,

if you are playing the anonymous games I think you are playing, if you have success with value hands with certain lines, obviously do not do the same thing with bluffing lines.

you do not have to balance, if something works for value, oh boy, do not use it as a bluff, ever, not on that site.

if you are not playing the anons games I think you are.. never mind everything said.

On October 05 2015 03:15 careface_ wrote: i hate it you say you are using it with value hands, which probably means you have decent success with value hands, if you are playing the anonymous games I think you are playing, if you have success with value hands with certain lines, obviously do not do the same thing with bluffing lines. you do not have to balance, if something works for value, oh boy, do not use it as a bluff, ever, not on that site. if you are not playing the anons games I think you are.. never mind everything said.

i try to be balanced a lot of the time, although I know that does contradict playing in anon games

what lines would you suggest i take instead of this one with value hands? don't just critique a play/say you don't like it and not offer a solution -_-

well I did give a bit of advice in the first post

I think in anon games with a so high % of fishs, the way they will see the game approach the hands is pretty simple,

1. they will look at what they have, and not give a fuck about what you have, that we all know,
2. they will associate sizing with strengh,

I wouldnt be surprised 66 calls here close to 50% of the time at river. Doesn't believe you on flop, doesn't believe you on turn, sees a guy trying to buy it on river.

Of course this isnt 2015 poker, this isn't really strong thinking, but it's pretty damn realistic thinking vs the right players.

Just make sure you always remember #1. Even if your #2 makes sense. /print.

On October 05 2015 22:49 careface_ wrote: well I did give a bit of advice in the first post I think in anon games with a so high % of fishs, the way they will see the game approach the hands is pretty simple, 1. they will look at what they have, and not give a fuck about what you have, that we all know, 2. they will associate sizing with strengh, I wouldnt be surprised 66 calls here close to 50% of the time at river. Doesn't believe you on flop, doesn't believe you on turn, sees a guy trying to buy it on river. Of course this isnt 2015 poker, this isn't really strong thinking, but it's pretty damn realistic thinking vs the right players. Just make sure you always remember #1. Even if your #2 makes sense. /print.

I guess you did in a sense, it was just very vague

the other thing about what you are saying is that this thought process and super exploitative way of playing applies more directly vs fish. iirc this guy was a reg that was a bit on the looser side. Playing super exploitive can def backfire vs some regs

you also still haven't described a different line to take either

I assume the other option would be to start c/c flop but it gets very tricky with little info on an opponent going to the turn and river