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Submitted by : Smuft

PokerStars Zoom Hand #141598607299: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2015/10/01 16:02:47 ET
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($115.16 in chips)
Seat 2: ArKane999 ($274.66 in chips)
Seat 3: boomer4985 ($156.16 in chips)
Seat 4: elabuga ($99.88 in chips)
Seat 5: skouty ($111.13 in chips)
Seat 6: RoadToUtopia ($120.82 in chips)
ArKane999: posts small blind $0.50
boomer4985: posts big blind $1

Dealt to Hero 6sAdAhQs
elabuga: folds
skouty: folds
RoadToUtopia: folds
Hero: raises $1.20 to $2.20
ArKane999: folds
boomer4985: raises $4.90 to $7.10
Hero: raises $14.70 to $21.80
boomer4985: calls $14.70

Flop (Pot : $44.10)

boomer4985: bets $42.12

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Smuft   Canada. Oct 01 2015 21:31. Posts 633

SPR of 2 left, ever fold?

so far it seems the donkish(guys who have usernames with 4 numbers in it) population arent doing this w/ a medium strength hand like 2nd pair + OESD or Q high FD + bottom pair

instead it seems like they are doing it when they hit something they really like, top pair + NFD, 2 pair, set etc

If my assumption is right maybe I can fold here since I don't really have the necessary ~40% equity to shove vs that range (Ah blocks a lot of his NFD donks that I do pretty well against too)

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 02 2015 15:08. Posts 6810

I dont think anyone ever folds here (myself and other reg I asked included), but I think it's very possible we should. We can still continue >80% of our range here assuming a 4% 4bet range, if we fold hands like this that have no connection to the board and reverse blockers (surprisingly we seem to be doing worse in this spot with AAQ6 without the Ah than we do with).

Even if we have him leading >50% of his range, and remove the strongest parts of it - JJ and (55,77,J7,J5):hh - we only get to 39% equity (I'm assuming $3b10o)!AA!$f24b as his starting range - which is a 10% custom oop 3betting range and a custom fold to 4b range which in this case equals to about 7.5% of his 3betting hands, which is very close to the average in this spot of 9.92% 3bet, 8.5% fold to 4b).

(($3b10o)!AA!$f24b): ((55,77,J5,J7)!hh,57,hh: (55,77,J5,J7,JJ),463,589,789,T89,J!jj,86,64,89)

38% vs that...

EDIT: Accidently wrote : in place of the !... should have been

(($3b10o)!AA!$f24b): ((55,77,J5,J7)!hh,57,hh!(55,77,J5,J7,JJ),463,589,789,T89,J!jj,86,64,89)
Which is 70% of his range and we have 40.9% vs that...

Fairly optimistic but not totally unreasonable assumptions... And of course if he's a wider 3bettor than this or fishier, it's not like KK or QQ has NEVER played like this even tho they make no sense.

Hm.. Off-suite socks..Last edit: 02/10/2015 15:43

traxamillion   United States. Oct 02 2015 20:17. Posts 10468

having the Ah actually helps here because despite blocking some "bluffs" what it actually does is block a lot of the extra equity villain picks up from AhXhXX . Less flushdraws period to go with villain's other hands that get it in and you win the pot more often period as villain's have less hands to gii with.


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