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Handnr: 1045170
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

PokerStars Zoom Hand #124769536915: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2014/11/09 12:52:50 CET [2014/11/09 6:52:50 ET]
Table Hydra 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: DoC.LemOn ($54.38 in chips)
Seat 2: YUGIOHPWNZZZ ($26.73 in chips)
Seat 3: torrero21 ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: fish_san ($36.46 in chips)
Seat 5: willebrorduz ($27.59 in chips)
Seat 6: Prapaja ($25 in chips)
YUGIOHPWNZZZ: posts small blind $0.10
torrero21: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to DoC.LemOn 9c8c
fish_san: folds
willebrorduz: folds
Prapaja: folds
DoC.LemOn: raises $0.37 to $0.62
YUGIOHPWNZZZ: folds
torrero21: calls $0.37

Flop (Pot : $1.34)

   4hQd5c
torrero21: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $0.83
torrero21: calls $0.83

Turn (Pot : $3.00)

   4hQd5c7s
torrero21: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $1.85
torrero21: calls $1.85

River (Pot : $6.70)

   4hQd5c7s3h
torrero21: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $4
torrero21:

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 09 2014 06:58. Posts 15163

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93% Sure!  

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 09 2014 07:06. Posts 15163

Turn barrel with my hand:

Bad: I block 88 99, Q8 Q9 that might fold some OTR
good: gutter, 13% equity

meh not so good turn barrel spot with a gutter that blocks hands he should call [t] fold [r] with. better have all 6x + KJ stuff that block good tps doesnt block hands that fold to 3 barrel.

I mean he does call 4/9 [F] folds 3/4 [T]
but the sample's wayto small. If he at least called more in BB so his range he folds to 3 barrel is wider


I assume river's good?

93% Sure! Last edit: 09/11/2014 07:10

Santafairy   Korea (South). Nov 09 2014 07:47. Posts 2224

i have a question, do you look at that popup in a hand while multitabling? or at what time in the hand

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Nov 09 2014 08:04. Posts 15163

On flop IP like 40% of the time, only in closer spots I guess?
OOP I try to look every time, loads of folk have too high bet vs missed cbet IP, the decision to cbet or not is a lot closer oop.

On turn pretty much always. I tend to decide what my T+River plan is on the turn

preflop I look pretty much only when there's a close hand that I'm deciding to open or not to see his fold to cbet/exploitabilities. Otherwise I just make preflop decisions based on stats.

I know it'd help me make better preflop decisions if I had postflop stats in the hud not just popups but I prefer the simplicity. My brain is slow.

93% Sure! Last edit: 09/11/2014 08:10

Nitewin   United States. Nov 09 2014 09:12. Posts 1539

His range looks like Qx or a low connector type hand, which all got there. I don't think villain folds here very often.

 Last edit: 09/11/2014 09:12

fira   United States. Nov 09 2014 11:32. Posts 6345

yay lemon hands to look at

hmm... at first i thought that the river bet was a bit weird, considering how weak our range seems, but then i realized it's not that weak. we have a lot of 6x (pretty much all our 6x that bet flop will bet turn)
the 6x hands that we don't have are maybe 64 and 65, depending on whether we're betting those on flop. also the 6x offsuit hands, since those may not cbet flop
however we prob don't have many broadways by river which is great for our range since it leaves very few bluff combos - basically hands like this that had some sort of gutter on turn and missed

question is sizing, which i think is.. okay. we could size down a bit maybe, since villain will have a lot of 6x as well, which are auto-calls at any size, and the hands that aren't auto-calls have a difficult time calling a smaller bet
would make it around half pot, maybe slightly less, like $3 or $3.3


TalentedTom    Canada. Nov 09 2014 12:43. Posts 20070

this seems awful

turn is very good for his range, unless he has A4, A5

If he folds Qx river is okay

given that you are button and likley have loose table image, prob not +EV to do this

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traxamillion   United States. Nov 09 2014 14:45. Posts 10468

You have to 3 barrel this board sometimes for balance so this is one of the best hands to do it with the backdoor fd and then gutter.


In game at low stakes however I might not have confidence in getting enough folds and just give up the hand.

Check back turn and then stack slow played QQQ with a rivered straight


Santafairy   Korea (South). Nov 09 2014 16:01. Posts 2224

i'm probably bad but i also like what trax said for check turn. i keep looking at this and although this guy looks weak i would expect him to station here with any queen. i mean you're right to barrel river after turn but turn is not quite the spot i'd like, would rather wait for a hand like 67s A2s A3s.

It seems to be not very profitable in the long run to play those kind of hands. - Gus Hansen 

Smuft   Canada. Nov 10 2014 04:57. Posts 633

+1 trax
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~pot on the river will get folds from almost all naked Qx by most regs, anywhere from 80 to 125% pot, w/e you think is the cheapest sizing that gets the most credit


 

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