comments on all streets? i think i couldnt have misplayed it more

Ok I'll get the ball rolling

I don't 3 bet this preflop, this is a really nice hand to take heads up, especially with position however it fairs worse multiway, especially out of position. After you 3 bet this, probably the best thing you can hope for is for utg to 4 bet (with aces) and get the pots heads up with a nice hand for it. This in reality, while being an okay situation is not ideal out of position and also not the most likely outcome. The most likely outcome is you'll get two callers and not flop the nuts or a draw anything close to it (as above)

Now, apart from flopping the nuts this is a pretty good flop for you in the sense that its unlikely to have improved either of your opponents and your represented hand should still be the strongest at this point...

Therefore you don't need to bet 3.40 into 4.30 on the flop, you're not really expecting KK-QQ to fold to 1 bet on the flop anyway so I think in honesty you can just bet 1.5-2.4 on the flop (ie a bet you might actually make for value and protection with AAxx) and just see random overs snapfold. (You're actually getting a good price on your bluff now)
Turn is interesting, I don't really think you should be betting after getting called for such a large bet on the flop, this being 10plo and the only draw getting there (so either house/draw isn't folding now). You shouldn't in general be looking to just barrell opponents off a completely uncapped range deep in a hand like this.

I don't really think we can call this river

In reality we should have peeled or folded this hand pre and then just c/f flop (or watch the hand if we've folded already)

Hope this helps

Also if you try to post just 2-4 hands or more interesting hands then you're likely to get much better responses (at least from me), if you post tons of hands at once people are unlikely to look through them all for anything interesting. If you wish to save your hands you can set them so they don't come up in the 'list' on the right. So in general if you want advice just post the hands that you would like checked over.

KeyleK

I don't even play PLO but thx for bothering, this is def interesting :D

On January 18 2014 11:22 KeyleK_uk wrote: Ok I'll get the ball rolling I don't 3 bet this preflop, this is a really nice hand to take heads up, especially with position however it fairs worse multiway, especially out of position. After you 3 bet this, probably the best thing you can hope for is for utg to 4 bet (with aces) and get the pots heads up with a nice hand for it. This in reality, while being an okay situation is not ideal out of position and also not the most likely outcome. The most likely outcome is you'll get two callers and not flop the nuts or a draw anything close to it (as above) Now, apart from flopping the nuts this is a pretty good flop for you in the sense that its unlikely to have improved either of your opponents and your represented hand should still be the strongest at this point... Therefore you don't need to bet 3.40 into 4.30 on the flop, you're not really expecting KK-QQ to fold to 1 bet on the flop anyway so I think in honesty you can just bet 1.5-2.4 on the flop (ie a bet you might actually make for value and protection with AAxx) and just see random overs snapfold. (You're actually getting a good price on your bluff now) Turn is interesting, I don't really think you should be betting after getting called for such a large bet on the flop, this being 10plo and the only draw getting there (so either house/draw isn't folding now). You shouldn't in general be looking to just barrell opponents off a completely uncapped range deep in a hand like this. I don't really think we can call this river In reality we should have peeled or folded this hand pre and then just c/f flop (or watch the hand if we've folded already) Hope this helps Also if you try to post just 2-4 hands or more interesting hands then you're likely to get much better responses (at least from me), if you post tons of hands at once people are unlikely to look through them all for anything interesting. If you wish to save your hands you can set them so they don't come up in the 'list' on the right. So in general if you want advice just post the hands that you would like checked over. KeyleK

These kind of posts make me realise i have a lot to learn. Really insightfull. Tnx again.