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Submitted by : redrain0125

PokerStars Zoom Hand #108903697127: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2013/12/22 1:57:36 ET
Table Baade 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($138.83 in chips)
Seat 2: SpustNaMorde ($64.11 in chips)
Seat 3: BelenkiyXXX ($50 in chips)
Seat 4: lopergolo ($53.94 in chips)
Seat 5: Sparkster25 ($63.66 in chips)
Seat 6: priapizmos ($25.56 in chips)
SpustNaMorde: posts small blind $0.25
BelenkiyXXX: posts big blind $0.50

Dealt to Hero AsQh
lopergolo: raises $0.50 to $1
Sparkster25: calls $1
priapizmos: folds
Hero: raises $3 to $4
SpustNaMorde: folds
BelenkiyXXX: folds
lopergolo: calls $3
Sparkster25: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $9.75)

lopergolo: checks
Hero: bets $6
lopergolo: calls $6

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $21.75)

lopergolo: checks
Hero: checks

River (Pot : $21.75)

lopergolo: bets $43.94 and is all-in
Hero: calls $43.94

lopergolo: shows 5c5h (two pair, Fives and Deuces)
Hero: shows AsQh (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
Hero collected $107.13 from pot

Total pot $109.63 | Rake $2.50
Board  Qd2s9c3c2h
Seat 1: Hero (button) showed AsQh and won ($107.13) with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 2: SpustNaMorde (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: BelenkiyXXX (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: lopergolo showed 5c5h and lost with two pair, Fives and Deuces
Seat 5: Sparkster25 folded before Flop
Seat 6: priapizmos folded before Flop (didnt bet)

wtf is ths?

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Twisted    Netherlands. Dec 22 2013 11:08. Posts 10422

Yeah you almost didn't stack him by playing terribly on turn :o

Thank god he helped ya.

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redrain0125   Canada. Dec 22 2013 17:47. Posts 5455

Thank god he helped ya

redrain0125   Canada. Dec 22 2013 17:47. Posts 5455

"Was a fish. Pretty sure he had AA after the potbet on the flop xD"

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Dec 22 2013 18:00. Posts 8646

this hand is not similar to twisted's if that's what you're trying to imply.

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redrain0125   Canada. Dec 22 2013 18:08. Posts 5455

 Last edit: 22/12/2013 18:09

redrain0125   Canada. Dec 22 2013 18:09. Posts 5455

if he thought I should bet all streets as standard vs fish, why didn't he raise turn in his hand given the read? isnt that what he calls standard?

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Dec 22 2013 18:45. Posts 8646

the main difference is villain being the aggressor in the other hand. i mean in twisted's hand you can make a legitimate case for playing the way he did, or raising at some point, but it's a pretty reasonable line as far as keeping villain's bluffs in + not scaring the shit out of an overpair on that board being 300+bb's deep. i doubt he would be checking back turn if he had position.

in this hand, betting turn+river gets much more value from villain's Qx+draws, and probably loses a little bit of value to 9x/mid-pp's. obviously him overbet jamming with 55 is not remotely standard even for a fish. in twisted's hand, villain overbetting river was also not standard, but him betting river was.

i mean i have to think there's at least a decent chance you had a read on this player given the obvious non-standard turn check+villain's bizarre river jam. and if so that's great, but if that's the case it doesn't make sense to go "wtf is ths" (not to mention outing a fish).

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