interesting hand i thought, how would you play each street in my spot? in hindsight i think i made a lot of mistakes here.

Jam flop?


ah, almost 200 bb deep.

I would valuebet the river for maybe half pot or slightly more and fold to a raise

also i think this is fine but coming over on the flop is probably better

LOOKS LIKE HE HAS JACKS

On July 01 2013 16:32 asdf2000 wrote: I would valuebet the river for maybe half pot or slightly more and fold to a raise also i think this is fine but coming over on the flop is probably better

If we 3 bet the flop do you think a good player would be able to find a fold with JJ here given the high SPR? I can't think of any hands that would want to 3-bet get it in on this flop other than QQ. if that's the case i don't think we should have a 3 betting range on this board. it would be different if there was a flush draw present though.

On July 01 2013 17:02 lacman730 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 01 2013 16:32 asdf2000 wrote: I would valuebet the river for maybe half pot or slightly more and fold to a raise also i think this is fine but coming over on the flop is probably better If we 3 bet the flop do you think a good player would be able to find a fold with JJ here given the high SPR? I can't think of any hands that would want to 3-bet get it in on this flop other than QQ. if that's the case i don't think we should have a 3 betting range on this board. it would be different if there was a flush draw present though.

maybe they can fold jj maybe they can't but that's not the only consideration. a weaker draw may make a bad play and come over and lots of big draws are going to call, which is great for you from position because you can't misplay

wraps are pretty nutted on this flop so he can't put you solely on QQ and fold JJ. That said I like the flop call

On July 02 2013 00:52 traxamillion wrote: wraps are pretty nutted on this flop so he can't put you solely on QQ and fold JJ. That said I like the flop call

i think bet-call is the only reasonable play with a wrap here. we're too deep to 3-bet get it in profitably and 3-bet fold or 3-bet call sucks. exception being when you know opponent c/r's a lot of marginal draws in which case AAKT becomes a profitable stack off. but generally the only hand that should want to get it in at such a high SPR is QQ so doing so turns your face up once you 3-bet which is something i try to avoid when there's still a lot of money behind.

yes i am agreeing with you but i'm just saying 910ak is not out of the realm of possibilities if the game is playing a bit spewy because that hand still has 43-45% equity vs top set depending on the suits.