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dnagardi   Hungary. Apr 19 2011 15:47. Posts 1776
does it worth to select it? whats your oppinion on the subject? also it says on the site: "* Please note that maximum rake might vary for hands that are dealt twice." they take more rake when you run it twice ?

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Highcard   Canada. Apr 19 2011 15:54. Posts 5428

idk i thought total rake was $1 extra, maybe it caps at $5

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

Arirang   Canada. Apr 19 2011 16:02. Posts 1673

Pay more rake but less variance. Honestly, if I have the choice of running it twice, I rather want to run it three times, an odd number, so at least someone wins.


Bejamin1   Canada. Apr 19 2011 16:24. Posts 7042

It's just a really stupid way to cost yourself more rake. Ridiculous that they'd require more rake to perform such a simple thing. Such a cash grab.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

vlseph   United States. Apr 19 2011 16:25. Posts 3026

It's up to $1 extra rake, and its your own preference if you want it on or not. It doesn't change the EV of the hand, except for the extra rake you pay.

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

rockman255   Canada. Apr 19 2011 17:45. Posts 4471

eh, i dont know how it works, but if its a case of if a fish asks for it, probably better to just do it to let him enjoy himself better

rockman255: its not easy being superman U N0 MySteeZ: mega man. rockman255: same thing U N0 MySteeZ: no 

ManofFire   United Kingdom. Apr 19 2011 18:00. Posts 140

Running it twice is a huge +EV move as a short stacker.


vlseph   United States. Apr 19 2011 18:37. Posts 3026


  On April 19 2011 17:00 ManofFire wrote:
Running it twice is a huge +EV move as a short stacker.



running it twice does not change the equity of the hand

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

rockman255   Canada. Apr 19 2011 19:23. Posts 4471

i get the feeling he means like if your br aside from the stack is 0 for all intents and purposes. that'd be fun

rockman255: its not easy being superman U N0 MySteeZ: mega man. rockman255: same thing U N0 MySteeZ: no 

YoMeR   United States. Apr 19 2011 19:58. Posts 12435

running it twice while paying more rake is the stupidest thing to a poker player who wants to maximize the EV of each hand.

The only reason why I can see someone running it twice is playing stakes they can't afford to play in (like taking an aggressive shot at a high stakes game) then the EV loss won't matter as much as it's a long term thing vs GOTTA WIN THE POT NOW OR I BUST.

In general I think it's retarded. I would actually love it myself if they didn't charge extra rake for it.

eZ Life. 

Maynard!   United States. Apr 19 2011 21:31. Posts 4453

I play(played) 2-3 hours a week at 2/4 nlhe. Worth the extra three dollars to lessen variance. No shame in taking lower ev routes to lessen variance.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

qwerty67890   New Zealand. Apr 19 2011 23:06. Posts 14026

real men run it once


LiLZhiMiNG   Australia. Apr 19 2011 23:33. Posts 637

100% agreed with Yomer...only worth it if you playing games you cant really afford...like PLO with 10BI of the stake or something...


 



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