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RICHI8   United States. Dec 30 2009 18:53. Posts 1341 | | |
It sucks to do this because I hate quitting more than anything in life but it's the right thing to do. I set goals when I came back to poker in October 2008 and I have been unable to achieve those goals. Along this path I also have uncovered a side of me that I never want to see again when it comes to my temper and self control. I still enjoy playing the game but not with the pressure of multi tabling and finding such thin edges. I'm a very social person so I'll still play live a couple times a month with friends or at a local casino but that's it. No more hardcore studying, grinding, and forum reading. I've cancelled all my training site subscriptions. The quality of my life since playing again has gone down. I've noticed it for a while but I felt like it might change if I became a big winner.
If I can give any advice to current micro stakes players it would be to quit now. If you are playing less than NL50 or NL100 right now there is no point in putting in all the work. The attracting glory of this game is the freedom and the low work schedule for the money you can make. By the time you make it to stakes substantial enough that you don't have to be a mass-tabling grind monkey the edges are going to be so small that luck is so supreme. We're seeing a taste of it already. The same people that were pioneers of this game back in 2004 are telling us that the game is dying and drying up, shouldn't we listen to them? I'm going to take the advice and run with it for my own happiness. Luck is so important in this game and as players we try and ignore it because that's what math tells us to do. With edges getting smaller and smaller the long run is getting longer and longer. Luck is so much more than just the stupid EV line on your graph.
I'm going back to school next semester. I'm also unsure if I want to stay in California while I'm in school or finish it back in New York. The temptation out here is so strong and I think I won't be able to maintain focus so I'm going to go over my options and make a decision soon hopefully. But either way, finishing school is what's most important to me in my life right now and I have a lot of people on this site to thank for helping me realize how important school really is.
I cashed out all of my money from PokerStars and I left $1k on FTP just to clear my year end Ironman bonus next month. I'll be using the money to take a vacation. I'm looking to go somewhere international. Some friends and I are thinking about hitting up Mexico City but if any of you have any other recommendations I'd love to hear them.
GL everybody.
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Nadeem   Belgium. Dec 30 2009 18:56. Posts 448 | | |
Everywhere I go I hear that the games get thougher every day djeez... |
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Uptown   . Dec 30 2009 19:03. Posts 3557 | | |
GL man let me know if you need a sounding board on RL stuff at all. |
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Zografa   Bulgaria. Dec 30 2009 19:25. Posts 962 | | |
Can u give me an exact thread/post link to that:
| The same people that were pioneers of this game back in 2004 are telling us that the game is dying and drying up, shouldn't we listen to them? |
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The fish call, the shark raise. | Last edit: 30/12/2009 19:25 |
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RICHI8   United States. Dec 30 2009 19:29. Posts 1341 | | |
| On December 30 2009 18:25 Zografa wrote:
Can u give me an exact thread/post link to that:
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The same people that were pioneers of this game back in 2004 are telling us that the game is dying and drying up, shouldn't we listen to them? |
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Look no further than some of the blogs on here. Heck, a lot of them don't even play online anymore. Mostly just live. |
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mikeymoo   Canada. Dec 30 2009 19:34. Posts 988 | | |
idk I'm at nl50 and I still have fun with the game.
Anyway good luck in all that you do! |
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Fayth   Canada. Dec 30 2009 20:02. Posts 10085 | | |
this is retarded, don't quit if u think u can make it, quit if u think u're not cut for this game
that's it
there is no such thing as games drying up, there's more good players, just as many fishes |
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PanoRaMa   United States. Dec 30 2009 20:10. Posts 1655 | | |
a lot of those pioneers were ultimately bad players who had neither the drive nor the capability to keep up with the evolving state of the games. i wouldn't listen to most if any of them. they were lucky enough to figure out/be given the understanding of how to 3bet and be aggressive in position in a time when nobody knew wtf was going on, but if they are truly good (i.e. CTS would be a good example) they wouldn't be ghosts today.
if the games are getting harder you just gotta get better. i think i told this to you yesterday
good luck in whatever you do, you're a good dude i hope you find your groove.
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dUUd_   Estonia. Dec 30 2009 20:12. Posts 1840 | | |
winners never quit and quitters never win. |
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redsnuff: bets all in with bad preflop hand and tell me to learn poker redsnuff: senceless | |
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ytricky   Germany. Dec 30 2009 20:33. Posts 600 | | |
| On December 30 2009 19:12 dUUd_ wrote:
winners never quit and quitters never win. |
but who never wins and never quits is an idiot. |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Dec 30 2009 20:47. Posts 4742 | | |
Just follow your heart, don't make up excuses, you look like an awesome dude. Selective memory, the ones doing badly makes x20 more noise, I don't know a lot of people who play poker, but those I do make a really nice profit from it without putting to much into it. Why I wanna keep trying till I get it, the challenge is fun and I'm enjoying the process =] |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Dec 30 2009 20:49. Posts 4742 | | |
Ps, that thing you said about school. Sick important and the way to go =] |
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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Dec 30 2009 20:50. Posts 3810 | | |
| On December 30 2009 18:29 RICHI8 wrote:
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On December 30 2009 18:25 Zografa wrote:
Can u give me an exact thread/post link to that:
| The same people that were pioneers of this game back in 2004 are telling us that the game is dying and drying up, shouldn't we listen to them? |
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Look no further than some of the blogs on here. Heck, a lot of them don't even play online anymore. Mostly just live. |
look at the 2009 year wrap up thread and go find the same thread from 2008.
That being said if a 1 dollar sng grinder can make 30k a year the only thing is does show is that poker requires a lot more effort than you think. |
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I think I quit too,it's just not worth the hours and it takes a long while to actually begin to turn some profit. Besides I have pretty specific and difficult/demanding life goals which will take up all my time. |
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YoMeR   United States. Dec 30 2009 21:45. Posts 12438 | | |
if you're unhappy with grinding out out then that's the correct decision.
but you're wrong when you think there's no edges to be found. |
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YoMeR   United States. Dec 30 2009 21:45. Posts 12438 | | |
and who said it doesn't take hard work and discipline to succeed at poker? if you thought otherwise you were grossly misinformed or just played ignorant/naive. |
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Steal City   United States. Dec 31 2009 00:05. Posts 2537 | | |
happens to everyone, sooner or later everyone goes bust
you'll be back in the game before you know it |
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MIStrZZZ   Poland. Dec 31 2009 00:46. Posts 130 | | |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Dec 31 2009 02:05. Posts 4948 | | |
The only ones thinking the game is drying up are the ones failing to adapt. |
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